# You're Getting Windows 10 Whether You Want It Or Not!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 10, 2015, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532 "2015-09-10T17:18:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/1 "2015-09-10T17:18:15Z")
This past Tuesday was the typical Microsoft patch update day. Well, not really. There are reports in the wild Microsoft is forcing Windows 10 installation files onto Windows 7/8 machines, regardless of whether you want to upgrade. I keep seeing the Windows 10 popup on my Win 7 machines, and I keep dismissing them. Now this: > [@](#): > > **MICROSOFT HAS CONFIRMED** that [Windows 10](http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2391443/windows-10-free-upgrade-brings-with-it-cortana-and-universal-apps) is being downloaded to computers whether or not users have opted in. > > An _INQUIRER_ reader pointed out to us that, despite not having ‘reserved’ a copy of Windows 10, he had found that the ~BT folder, which has been the home of images of the new operating system since before rollout began, had appeared on his system. He had no plans to upgrade and had not put in a reservation request. [http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2425381/microsoft-is-downloading-windows-10-to-your-machine-just-in-case](http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2425381/microsoft-is-downloading-windows-10-to-your-machine-just-in-case) I have no plans to upgrade to Win 10 anytime soon as my Win 7 machines work just fine. I don’t care if it’s “easier” to preposition Win 10 installation files on my machine; _it’s my machine_! Two in one week. First Apple brings back the dreaded stylus and now this. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/2 "2015-09-10T17:24:36Z")
If you want to block this, you could try creating your own ~BT folder and write-protect it, but that might do more harm than good. Don’t know if the installer is smart enough to create & use a ~BT-2 folder. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/3 "2015-09-10T17:38:39Z")
I remember Microsoft getting whacked by a court for packing IE with Windows… 95?, now they up and replace your entire OS? This is effed up six days to Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/4 "2015-09-10T17:45:31Z")
Strangely, I actually did request the Win 10 upgrade _months_ ago, and it says I’m still in the “queue”. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@Troy\_McClure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/5 "2015-09-10T17:53:02Z")
I rolled my main computer from 10 back to 7 because it was having some serious problems. I’ve noticed since that it doesn’t seem to be automatically downloading the Win7 updates. When I run Windows Update manually, it first tries to get me to download 10 again, but there’s an inconspicuous link to check for more updates. If I follow that, then I can get the Win7 updates, but the Win10 update is also hiding on the Optional tab, with the check box already conveniently checked. So I have to make sure to uncheck it. Could be that if you had Win7 set up to download and install updates automatically, it would have also have pulled the Win10 install hiding in the background? ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/6 "2015-09-10T17:55:12Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > I remember Microsoft getting whacked by a court for packing IE with Windows… 95?, now they up and replace your entire OS? > > This is effed up six days to Sunday. Not quite…it looks like they are \*downloading \*the install files, but nothing is actually being _installed_; the upgrade is not actually being applied. Yet. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/7 "2015-09-10T17:59:02Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Strangely, I actually did request the Win 10 upgrade _months_ ago, and it says I’m still in the “queue”. You can skip to the front of the line and trigger the update manually any time you choose. You might want to do it overnight because it takes about 90 minutes to install even with a fast connection and computer. > **[How to Skip the Line and Upgrade to Windows 10 Now](https://lifehacker.com/how-to-skip-the-line-and-upgrade-to-windows-10-now-1720854489)** > > If you’ve reserved a copy of Windows 10 but haven’t gotten the upgrade prompt yet, here’s a secret: you can skip the line and upgrade right now.If you ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/8 "2015-09-10T18:36:06Z")
> [@OP's Link](#): > > Microsoft told us: "For individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for Windows 10 by downloading the files they’ll need if they decide to upgrade. > "When the upgrade is ready, the customer will be prompted to install Windows 10 on the device.” Downloaded, not installed. Yet. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/9 "2015-09-10T19:37:27Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > I don’t care if it’s “easier” to preposition Win 10 installation files on my machine; _it’s my machine_! [Windows 10 Hitman]“Thats a Windows operating system… and you’ve had your 7…” _Pffutt!Pffutt!_ [Windows 10 Hitman] Good Luck, but don’t be surprised if they don’t nail you with it at a future date when you least expect it. Get all your licenses, back up copies & back-up info together… because you might be unhappy someday if you don’t. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/10 "2015-09-10T19:46:51Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Strangely, I actually did request the Win 10 upgrade _months_ ago, and it says I’m still in the “queue”. Me too, actually over a month in the queue ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/11 "2015-09-10T19:51:13Z")
I do not want to get stuck for lack of a driver. I have no install disc. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/12 "2015-09-10T19:57:33Z")
I reached the front of the queue about a month ago, but I haven’t installed it yet because I’ll be replacing this PC in a few months anyway. Aside from the little icon on the taskbar, there’s been nothing urging me or forcing me to upgrade. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/13 "2015-09-10T20:04:19Z")
I get a popup every time I reboot now saying “push the BUTTON!!!” I think I’ll go ahead and install tomorrow so I can take positive control over it, rather than having Microsoft go ahead and install the express version when I’m not looking. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/14 "2015-09-10T20:45:59Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > [Windows 10 Hitman]“Thats a Windows operating system… and you’ve had your 7…” _Pffutt!Pffutt!_ [Windows 10 Hitman] > > Good Luck, but don’t be surprised if they don’t nail you with it at a future date when you least expect it. Get all your licenses, back up copies & back-up info together… because you might be unhappy someday if you don’t. ☹ I always have my licenses and install disks. When I bought my current machines (IBM/Lenovo) I ordered the install disks. I’ve reimaged my machines several times since using the install disks. That triggers all of the subsequent patches. No big deal. I have no plans to install Win 10. When I do, it will be on machines that can take advantage of it. My time. My choice. Every update/patch only happens with my say so. No automatic updates for me. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/15 "2015-09-10T20:55:09Z")
There is a Windows update that you can roll back that stops the damned pop up. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/16 "2015-09-10T21:16:59Z")
The update that installs the Windows 10 nag is KB3035583. If you don’t ever want to upgrade a particular system, just go to add/remove programs, click “show updates”, and uninstall that update. Or open an admin CMD prompt and enter WUSA /UNINSTALL /KB:3035583 To avoid getting the nag again, run Windows update, and when it recommends for you to install KB3035583, just choose the hide/ignore option. You have to have the “Download updates but let me choose whether to install them” option on. ---
**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/17 "2015-09-11T05:46:43Z")
This is a brand new Win 8.1 machine\*. I have never ‘registered’ any software product, and I didn’t register this machine with its manufacturer. Not having a usable web connection when I first powered it up may have had something to do with it. I set every ‘tell MS, Mozilla, mfg, everyone who asks’ to “NO”. I haven’t been harassed yet. - - total run time 4 hours. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/18 "2015-09-11T07:23:27Z")
It’s really not that bad. I’m a little upset at the virtual umbilical cord that MS has with my computer with Win 10, but it loads way faster at start up, way faster. Horror stories aside, I’d do it again. On the other hand, If everything was just peachie, I’d leave it as is. Never fix something that works. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/19 "2015-09-11T08:46:11Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I do not want to get stuck for lack of a driver. I have no install disc. You can create an install disc on an external hard drive, it’s in your control panel under “Recovery”. I moved, rapidly got sick with being asked “hello! I have detected you are trying to open an mp3 from VLC! Are you sure you want to use VLC and not one of these beauteous programs that I’ve installed just because, all of them made by Microsoft?” (when opening VLC, then clicking ‘play’) followed by “hello! I have detected you are trying to open an mp3! Your default program is VLC! Are you sure you want to use VLC and not one of these beauteous programs that I’ve installed just because, all of them made by Microsoft?” (when double clicking an mp3) and so forth und so weise… and I tried to go back. I’d forgotten to remove the passwords before the upgrade, Windows was asking for the password but didn’t recognize the keyboard. Had to take it to the shop 😛 but hey, at least now it’s spanking clean, hard and software both. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/20 "2015-09-11T12:38:26Z")
I wonder what’s behind this push for Windows 10? I have both MS and Kaspersky practically begging me to download 10. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532.md?page=2)