# You're Getting Windows 10 Whether You Want It Or Not!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 10, 2015, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532 "2015-09-10T17:18:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/41 "2015-09-13T17:47:27Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > They want to make lots of money. > There isn’t much difference. I’d bet that most of the people reading this want to make lots of money. Therefore the whole world is deliberately evil. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/42 "2015-09-13T21:33:46Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > I’d bet that most of the people reading this want to make lots of money. Therefore the whole world is deliberately evil. I do, but I don’t screw other people to get it, as requiring they buy a new version of an operating system every few years. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/43 "2015-09-13T22:27:42Z")
i don’t have a camera. How the Hell am I supposed to sign in? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/44 "2015-09-13T22:33:17Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I do, but I don’t screw other people to get it, as requiring they buy a new version of an operating system every few years. 🙂 Who says you need to buy a new operating system every few years? You can keep the operating system you bought when you bought the computer you are using. You don’t have to buy a new one. It is true that Microsoft only supported Windows XP for 12 years, and after that stopped creating security updates for it. But the operating system itself will work just fine, as long as you don’t connect the system to the internet. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/45 "2015-09-13T22:43:14Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > But the operating system itself will work just fine, as long as you don’t connect the system to the internet. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/46 "2015-09-13T23:03:48Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > i don’t have a camera. > How the Hell am I supposed to sign in? I dunno, maybe use the keyboard you typed your post on 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/47 "2015-09-14T03:49:06Z")
Tim Cook and I refute that. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/48 "2015-09-14T05:50:37Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I do, but I don’t screw other people to get it, as requiring they buy a new version of an operating system every few years. 🙂 How is it that releasing new versions of a product and retiring the old ones is ‘screwing people’? What organisation in this market sector does anything different? Apple does it, Google does it, Autodesk does it, Adobe does it, the little guys like Corel and Winzip do it. Even Canonical and all the open-source guys do it. What organisation in _any other_ market sector does something different? Car manufacturers release new models and stop producing spare parts for the older ones. It’s the standard practice for almost any consumer product. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/49 "2015-09-15T00:42:51Z")
Turn off Windows update, then you can’t get the “upgrade” even if you want it, let alone have it forced on you. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/50 "2015-09-15T01:28:54Z")
> [@Timetrvlr](#): > > “You’re Getting Windows 10 Whether You Want It Or Not!!!” Good luck trying to get Win10 to work on my Mac 😉 I don’t have Boot Camp installed, so there’s no possibility at all… ---
**Author:** ![Graymalkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Graymalkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Graymalkin)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/51 "2015-09-15T01:44:08Z")
You can’t play your DVDs on Windows 10. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/52 "2015-09-15T02:10:18Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > Good luck trying to get Win10 to work on my Mac 😉 > > I don’t have Boot Camp installed, so there’s no possibility at all… Can you play Doom I and II ? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/53 "2015-09-17T17:57:04Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > How is it that releasing new versions of a product and retiring the old ones is ‘screwing people’? What organisation in this market sector does anything different? Apple does it, Google does it, Autodesk does it, Adobe does it, the little guys like Corel and Winzip do it. Even Canonical and all the open-source guys do it. > > What organisation in _any other_ market sector does something different? Car manufacturers release new models and stop producing spare parts for the older ones. It’s the standard practice for almost any consumer product. No one except in software actually forces the issue. You can get older parts from other people. And I am allowed to run my 1970s car for as long as it will keep functioning. Someone uses Windows XP? They’re being irresponsible. Someday, I hope that stability will win out, and companies will get that people just want stuff to stay the same, and just update the back end. Hopefully, Microsoft’s claim about Windows 10 being the last version of Windows will cause that to happen. Especially since they rolled back a bunch of their big changes from Windows 8. You mention cars–little has changed in the user interface. Because that’s the way we like it. You might get a new gadget or something, but the fundamentals remain the same. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/54 "2015-09-19T14:48:18Z")
Still, at least you’re getting it. I’m trying to update my dad’s computer and keeps saying it’s not eligible. It’s got Windows 7 Home Premium, and was bought from Walmart, so I know it’s legit. It has all updates. I’m having to manually install it. ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/55 "2015-09-19T20:11:41Z")
I’m furious that they are forcing Win 10 on me. It defeats the whole purpose of getting my Mac in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/56 "2015-09-19T20:16:43Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > Good luck trying to get Win10 to work on my Mac 😉 > > I don’t have Boot Camp installed, so there’s no possibility at all… > [@Napier](#): > > I’m furious that they are forcing Win 10 on me. It defeats the whole purpose of getting my Mac in the first place. “How do you know when someone is a user of Apple technology?” “They just fucking tell you” ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/57 "2015-10-14T23:21:46Z")
New wrinkle? I’m running W7 with no plans to upgrade. (I have a simple rule: I upgrade to a new operating system when I buy a new computer and not before.) I’ve always had the Windows Upgrade set to ‘ask me’. This morning when I did my weekly check for upgrades I found something new and unpleasant: they had Windows 10, in the ‘optional’ category, but ALREADY checked for download. Mind, this has never been true in the past. The upgrades under Optional were always unchecked. It looks like this is an effort to ‘sneak’ the W10 upgrade onto people. Fat chance in my case. The file is something over 2700 MB and I’m on dial up on this computer. Yeah, I won’t notice an upgrade taking about SIX DAYS to complete. :smack: More fun though: I unchecked that box, then told it to “hide” that update. Then I ran the ‘look for updates’ again… and guess what? Not only is that W10 file still showing up in the optional category (previously hidden upgrades have indeed vanished from sight) but the damned thing is AGAIN PRE-CHECKED for download! What a PITA. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/58 "2015-10-14T23:37:27Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > New wrinkle? I’m running W7 with no plans to upgrade. (I have a simple rule: I upgrade to a new operating system when I buy a new computer and not before.) > > I’ve always had the Windows Upgrade set to ‘ask me’. This morning when I did my weekly check for upgrades I found something new and unpleasant: they had Windows 10, in the ‘optional’ category, but ALREADY checked for download. That prompted me to check. Same thing. Also, a update to install Skype that I got rid of months ago after it was snuck in. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Me](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@Mr.Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Me)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/59 "2015-10-15T01:23:22Z")
> [@Graymalkin](#): > > You can’t play your DVDs on Windows 10. VLC plays DVDs just fine in Windows 10. And it’s free. Sucks that they got rid of Media Center, though. ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532/60 "2015-10-15T01:58:55Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > “How do you know when someone is a user of Apple technology?” > > “They just fucking tell you” Unlike all those in a Windows thread lamenting their collective ball and chain. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-getting-windows-10-whether-you-want-it-or-not/730532.md?page=2)