# You're in denial that you knocked her up

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 2, 2010, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866 "2010-08-02T08:10:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/61 "2010-08-03T12:36:11Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> > [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> > I’m a carrier of the disease but I don’t have any symptoms.
> 
> The disease being life? That’s a cheery thought…

Don’t worry, it’s not like AIDS. You can’t catch it just from being around me.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/62 "2010-08-03T12:41:08Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> A paternity test should sort matters out once and for all.
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> **Kasuo** , how are you going to feel if it turns out he is not the father? I can’t help but feel that you’re jumping to a conclusion here. Yes, it’s a reasonable conclusion. Yes, he probably is the father. But until a paternity test is done, it’s not definite.

Even if he’s not the father he’s revealed a few unattractive things about his character. He’s 30, not 17. You’d expect him to want to find out if he’s the father and then decide what his responsibilities from there.

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/63 "2010-08-03T12:55:31Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> > [@An\_Arky](#):
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> > Kids are wonderful.
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> Ha, says you! You don’t have to live with my hellions! Spawn of Satan, the lot of them!  
> 😛

This is true; my kids are adept at hellishness, but I still think they’re wonderful. 😃

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/64 "2010-08-03T13:04:56Z")

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> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#):
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> I’ve known guys like that. Douchebags is right.

Hopefully not in the Biblical sense

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/65 "2010-08-03T13:36:31Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> > [@pulykamell](#):
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> > Male here, too. I definitely notice the difference. Night and day for me. That said, I wouldn’t have unprotected sex with anyone outside a long-term committed relationship. And pregnancy is just one part of the worry. Ever see those STD statistics?
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> Pregnancy is the STD I worry most about.

I know you’re being cheeky, but it irks me when people refer to pregnancy as a “disease.”

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/66 "2010-08-03T13:43:31Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> > [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> > Pregnancy is the STD I worry most about.
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> I know you’re being cheeky, but it irks me when people refer to pregnancy as a “disease.”

You’re handicapable!

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/67 "2010-08-03T13:47:16Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> A paternity test should sort matters out once and for all.
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> **Kasuo** , how are you going to feel if it turns out he is not the father? I can’t help but feel that you’re jumping to a conclusion here. Yes, it’s a reasonable conclusion. Yes, he probably is the father. But until a paternity test is done, it’s not definite.

I think it’s his overall attitude that’s the problem. Whether or not he’s actually the father is of little consequence. One can assume from his behavior thus far that even if he _is_ the father, he’s going to take very little responsibility for the lives he irresponsibly helped create.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/68 "2010-08-03T14:09:54Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> God forbid I should sit in moral judgment on my friends’ lives, I probably wouldn’t have any left! (And conversely, God forbid they should sit in judgment on mine).

So where do you draw the line? I absolutely think we have to apply \*some \*level of judgement to how the people who we choose to associate with, behave. If a person is nice to you, but treats other people like disposable Kleenex is that really of no concern to you?

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/69 "2010-08-03T14:39:46Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> > [@aldiboronti](#):
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> > God forbid I should sit in moral judgment on my friends’ lives, I probably wouldn’t have any left! (And conversely, God forbid they should sit in judgment on mine).
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> So where do you draw the line? I absolutely think we have to apply \*some \*level of judgement to how the people who we choose to associate with, behave. If a person is nice to you, but treats other people like disposable Kleenex is that really of no concern to you?

Well that depends,…what color are those people? How much money do they have?

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/70 "2010-08-03T15:02:07Z")

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He sounds like a psychopath, or at least a narcissist. I would advise her to think seriously about whether having his money is worth being forced to allow him into her children’s lives. IMO she’s making a big mistake. This is NOT Ward Cleaver and his attitude shows that he will not be a good father.

She should let him wander off to his cave, and be thankful to be quit of him.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/71 "2010-08-03T15:08:37Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> Male here: I don’t notice the difference between condom and no condom.

Then you’re doing it wrong.

Or suffering from “hot dog down a hallway” syndrome.

> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> You’re handicapable!

But you win the thread.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/72 "2010-08-03T15:17:25Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> I know you’re being cheeky, but it irks me when people refer to pregnancy as a “disease.”

What do you care about how other people feel about pregnancies? I also consider it similar to a disease, and a fetus a parasite that I want no part of. It irks me when people act like babies and pregnancy are some kind of exalted, holy things.

I agree that any child support this guy might be forced to pay might not be worth having to deal with someone who is so obviously a complete asshole, but on the other hand, she could be quite far into the attitude of sticking it to a complete asshole, and I can get behind that attitude, too. Did you know that unpaid child support will come out of every government cheque he ever gets, including his old age pension? Heh.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/73 "2010-08-03T15:18:03Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Then you’re doing it wrong.
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> Or suffering from “hot dog down a hallway” syndrome.

I didn’t know you had a penis!

Edit: And thanks for the support. 😛 That’s two wins in two days. /bow

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/74 "2010-08-03T16:06:12Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> > [@pulykamell](#):
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> > \<snip\>  
> > I know you’re being cheeky, but it irks me when people refer to pregnancy as a “disease.”
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> What do you care about how other people feel about pregnancies?

I’m expressing a personal annoyance. Last I checked, I’m allowed to do that. You expressed yours. Fine. I don’t really give a shit enough to continue on this tangent.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/75 "2010-08-03T16:31:28Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> > [@pulykamell](#):
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> > \<snip\>  
> > I know you’re being cheeky, but it irks me when people refer to pregnancy as a “disease.”
> 
> What do you care about how other people feel about pregnancies? I also consider it similar to a disease, and a fetus a parasite that I want no part of. It irks me when people act like babies and pregnancy are some kind of exalted, holy things.

What do you care how other people feel about pregnancies?

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/76 "2010-08-03T16:37:36Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Or suffering from “hot dog down a hallway” syndrome.

Yeah, but sometimes its the size of the hot dog and sometimes its the size of the hallway…

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/77 "2010-08-03T16:44:14Z")

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My hot dog is just fine! 😛

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/78 "2010-08-03T17:00:59Z")

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> [@](#):
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> What do you care about how other people feel about pregnancies? I also consider it similar to a disease, and a fetus a parasite that I want no part of. It irks me when people act like babies and pregnancy are some kind of exalted, holy things.

Seriously? You feel that way about a biologically necessary and normal process that every species on earth must engage in to remain evolutionarily fit? Good lord.

I really want to post baby pictures right now.

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**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/79 "2010-08-03T17:10:18Z")

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For the record, I agree with **Cat**.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-denial-that-you-knocked-her-up/548866/80 "2010-08-03T17:12:55Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> > [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> > Yeah, but condoms suck.
> 
> if he is going to insist on bareback, he can get a vasectomy since he pretty much doesnt want children or any sort of responsibility.
> 
> Once snipped and sterile, he can go on screwing and die alone and [hopefully] childless.

The odds of a childless guy under 35 finding a doctor who will perform a vasectomy are roughly the same as the odds of him getting pregnant himself.

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