# You're in the DCU, trapped & broke. Whose secret ID do you sell to the tabloids?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 27, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-the-dcu-trapped-broke-whose-secret-id-do-you-sell-to-the-tabloids/548238 "2010-07-27T21:59:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-the-dcu-trapped-broke-whose-secret-id-do-you-sell-to-the-tabloids/548238/101 "2010-08-02T22:16:11Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> Superboy somehow jumped into the pre-Crisis multiverse to hang with the Legion of a now-non-existent universe (can’t remember the number, but it’s 3 digits).

Are you talking about the immediate post-Crisis universe in which the Legion discovered that their Superboy came from a pocket universe created by the Time Trapper? Too many damn reboots to follow anymore…

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-the-dcu-trapped-broke-whose-secret-id-do-you-sell-to-the-tabloids/548238/102 "2010-08-02T22:25:19Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> > [@Tengu](#):
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> > Superboy somehow jumped into the pre-Crisis multiverse to hang with the Legion of a now-non-existent universe (can’t remember the number, but it’s 3 digits).
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> Are you talking about the immediate post-Crisis universe in which the Legion discovered that their Superboy came from a pocket universe created by the Time Trapper? Too many damn reboots to follow anymore…

No, Post-Zero Hour. Superboy (aka the Kid, Kon-El, Conner Kent) ended up going to the 31st century and hanging around with the Legion. During Infinite Crisis, that universe was revealed to be Earth-247. That Legion is currently wandering the multiverse as…the Wanderers. Minus Gates and XS who are hanging around with the main Legion (XS being of the main universe, not Earth-247).

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-the-dcu-trapped-broke-whose-secret-id-do-you-sell-to-the-tabloids/548238/103 "2010-08-02T23:11:50Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> And what might stop it is less likely to be the girls - none of the ones who expressed actual interest in Clark were with anyone for some time after meeting him - than Clark - he’s a fairly old-fashioned 20th-century boy, they’re 30th century girls…far more likely to be ‘I like you, you like me, neither of us is attached (yet), so why not?’

I just gave up on finding a panel which I saw on some comic blog (probably the ISB), showing the Legion playing a game where the computer tells them who they should be kissing.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-the-dcu-trapped-broke-whose-secret-id-do-you-sell-to-the-tabloids/548238/104 "2010-08-02T23:32:10Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> I just gave up on finding a panel which I saw on some comic blog (probably the ISB), showing the Legion playing a game where the computer tells them who they should be kissing.

I know exactly what panel you’re talking about…if I had my old Legion books handy I’d search for it. IIRC, it lead into an ‘evil girl Legionnaires’ story.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-the-dcu-trapped-broke-whose-secret-id-do-you-sell-to-the-tabloids/548238/105 "2010-08-03T00:52:23Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> I just gave up on finding a panel which I saw on some comic blog (probably the ISB), showing the Legion playing a game where the computer tells them who they should be kissing.

[http://www.studiosanning.shawbiz.ca/legion\_of\_super-heroes/membership/invisible\_kid/index.htm](http://www.studiosanning.shawbiz.ca/legion_of_super-heroes/membership/invisible_kid/index.htm)

> [@Tengu](#):
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> I know exactly what panel you’re talking about…if I had my old Legion books handy I’d search for it. IIRC, it lead into an ‘evil girl Legionnaires’ story.

This story?? [http://www.comicvine.com/adventure-comics-the-revolt-of-the-girl-legionnaires/37-114784/](http://www.comicvine.com/adventure-comics-the-revolt-of-the-girl-legionnaires/37-114784/)

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-the-dcu-trapped-broke-whose-secret-id-do-you-sell-to-the-tabloids/548238/106 "2010-08-03T00:56:23Z")

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Yes…that’s exactly the story I’m thinking of. Now I can see if it really did start with the kissing scene…

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-the-dcu-trapped-broke-whose-secret-id-do-you-sell-to-the-tabloids/548238/107 "2010-08-04T01:33:42Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> Yes…that’s exactly the story I’m thinking of. Now I can see if it really did start with the kissing scene…

It doesn’t, but some of the girls use makeout sessions to lure the boys in to get rid of 'em. Lu gets Invisible Kid, Brainiac 5 AND Cosmic Boy.

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**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-the-dcu-trapped-broke-whose-secret-id-do-you-sell-to-the-tabloids/548238/108 "2010-08-04T02:31:16Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> > [@Apollyon](#):
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> > And additionally, Wolvie’s “code against killing” is… more of a guideline really…
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> I’m not aware that Wolverine has a code against killing. He’s shown that, if he absolutely had to do so to provide, he’d kill his own teammates.

Oh I agree. The “code against killing” thing was more of a reference to the generic trait that (supposedly) all Superheroes should have (at least according to the old _Silver Age_ comics code), and the “guideline” bit was just a riff on the Pirates of the Caribbean’s _code_. (I promise footnotes for any future bad attempts at humour). 🙂

Wolvie is about the last “hero”, DCU or not, that I’d want to taunt with “I know your secret!” :eek:

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-the-dcu-trapped-broke-whose-secret-id-do-you-sell-to-the-tabloids/548238/109 "2010-08-04T03:39:45Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> And having multiple possible customers would drive up the price - ‘well, if it’s only worth a million to you, Mr Cobblepot, I guess I can see what the Falcones are willing to pay…’

Hugo Strange tried to do precisely this back in the 70s. Crime boss Rupert Thorne had him beaten to death in an unsuccessful attempt to get the information for free.

> [@DiggitCamara](#):
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> In my case, I would probably try to exploit my knowledge by photographing Batman & Robin in their civvies, and selling them to a cheap tabloid. They’d probably find a way to discredit the photographs post facto, leaving me with at least a bit of money to live on.

Wouldn’t “Batman & Robin in their civvies” just be pictures of Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson? (Or Dick Grayson and Tim Drake or whoever).

> [@Tengu](#):
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> Oh, and since it was brought up…
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> Clark’s ‘probably did it’ count, off the top of my head - Lois confirmed, Lana seems likely, Cat seems almost definite, the scientist from Buseik’s run is a probable… I have a feeling he’s been romantically linked with more women with whom there are no major anatomical issues preventing the relationships becoming sexual, but I’m blanking on any specifics. Given the way most of the girls in the Legion act around him in the teenage Legion stories, I’d not be surprised if he slept with one or more of them.

With Lori Lemaris, he had to settle for oral.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-the-dcu-trapped-broke-whose-secret-id-do-you-sell-to-the-tabloids/548238/110 "2010-08-04T03:43:50Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> Wouldn’t “Batman & Robin in their civvies” just be pictures of Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson? (Or Dick Grayson and Tim Drake or whoever).

Dick Grayson and Damien Wayne, currently. Tim Wayne (got adopted and changed his name) is going by Red Robin. I suspect the Wayne Boys will keep their current identities when daddy comes back, even if the unofficial brother switches back to Nightwing.

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**Author:** ![Clark\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@Clark\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clark_K)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-the-dcu-trapped-broke-whose-secret-id-do-you-sell-to-the-tabloids/548238/111 "2010-08-04T06:07:21Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> > [@Lumpy](#):
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> > Are you talking about the immediate post-Crisis universe in which the Legion discovered that their Superboy came from a pocket universe created by the Time Trapper? Too many damn reboots to follow anymore…
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> No, Post-Zero Hour. Superboy (aka the Kid, Kon-El, Conner Kent) ended up going to the 31st century and hanging around with the Legion. During Infinite Crisis, that universe was revealed to be Earth-247. That Legion is currently wandering the multiverse as…the Wanderers. Minus Gates and XS who are hanging around with the main Legion (XS being of the main universe, not Earth-247).

This kind of mind-numbing nonsense is why I no longer read comics. That and the prices.

God, I miss 'em.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-the-dcu-trapped-broke-whose-secret-id-do-you-sell-to-the-tabloids/548238/112 "2010-08-04T16:15:15Z")

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> Wolvie is about the last “hero”, DCU or not, that I’d want to taunt with “I know your secret!”

When even he doesn’t really know his secret (or if he does right now, it’s probably just another implanted memory or whatever), what harm is there? Any relatives he has left are either supervillains or so far-removed that they wouldn’t mean any more to him than any random stranger, and all of his friends are folks that he knows as Wolverine, not as his “civilian identity” (whatever that is currently).

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**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-in-the-dcu-trapped-broke-whose-secret-id-do-you-sell-to-the-tabloids/548238/113 "2010-08-05T02:02:37Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> …what harm is there?

What harm?! He’s likely to pull my arms off that’s what! Oh… you mean harm to Wolverine… well… probably none… but he’s still likely to hurt me. 🙂

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