# You're messy, but seriously- Have you no shame? At all? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000 "2010-03-02T16:39:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/61 "2010-03-04T06:47:23Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Screw you guys who think it’s okay to come in when the OP is feeling bad and moralize about what he did wrong. Learn to be nice, or be a fucking douchebag, but don’t hover in-between. You know, what, that was unfair. We’re in the Pit, where I guess that stuff is fine. The OP doesn’t want it in MPSIMS, which is where a sympathy thread would go, so I guess he has to take it. It’s just a pet peeve, and I’ve wanted to respond to it in other threads, but making a Pit thread about people who aren’t nice probably wouldn’t go very well. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/62 "2010-03-04T15:26:00Z")
It might be entertaining, though. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/63 "2010-03-04T15:39:53Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Link? Start over ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/64 "2010-03-04T15:45:35Z")
[Has anybody seen one slightly used 140 year old farmhouse? Mine’s missing](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=431705) ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/65 "2010-03-04T15:54:33Z")
> [@Rex\_Goliath](#): > > My buddy and I are excellent renters. We’re extremely clean and rather handy to boot, so everywhere we lived, we got the landlord to front us the cost while we laid tile, painted the walls (in a very attractive, modern color), fixed poor insulation in the windows, patch holes, and so forth. We left every place we stayed together considerably better than when we left. We found you can have a really nice apartment for cheap if you just do the repairs yourself. Do you need a roommate? ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/66 "2010-03-04T22:07:19Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > They do all the leg work, get the deposits, check references, do 3 monthly inspections, arrange repairs. Or so you think. My application for the place I’m currently renting was approved so quickly – and over a weekend – that there’s no _way_ they checked any references. I think they saw a single, professional, non-smoking woman with a decent income and said “yippee.” And, the inspection they were supposed to do at 6 months only just happened – nearly 3 months late. And the dude didn’t bother to look at 1/3 of the house, or even pretend to look at the back yard. (This seems to be a trend: every property management company I’ve rented from has promised inspections every 6 months, but one place did just one inspection in three _years_.) They got my deposit and have been responsive about major repairs, but that’s about it – hell, they didn’t even have all of the keys to the place when I moved in, and the mailbox key didn’t work. Lucky for them, I’m an awesome tenant (clean, responsible, likely to actually make improvements, etc.). When I moved out of the last place I rented, the property manager tried to get me to pay some fees that I wasn’t responsible for (threats of retaining a lawyer finally made her back down; I was fully prepared to follow through). She told me the homeowner was behind the request, but I became 90% sure that in actuality the homeowner had no idea she was trying to shake me down. I’d say that good property managers – from either perspective, renter or homeowner – are almost as hard to find as good tenants. ---
**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/67 "2010-03-05T01:25:35Z")
> [@Harmonious\_Discord](#): > > [Has anybody seen one slightly used 140 year old farmhouse? Mine’s missing](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=431705) Gah! 49 posts and no resolution. What happened? **Sampiro** is still around isn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/68 "2010-03-05T07:11:10Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > **You’re messy, but seriously- Have you no shame? At all?** > > Of _course_ I have shame! It’s right…well, I know I’ve got some around here somewhere (rummages through piles of unidentifiable reeking objects)…dammit, where’s the shame? Or, as my brother puts it, “of course I do, I never use it so I still have my full quota left!” ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/69 "2010-03-05T11:47:44Z")
> [@Rack-a-Bones](#): > > Gah! 49 posts and no resolution. What happened? **Sampiro** is still around isn’t he? Sampiro is still on the message board. I don’t think any resolution was reached beyond it’s gone and he didn’t want to put any more time into it. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/70 "2010-03-05T17:03:59Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > I knew mold would grow on coffee (don’t ask), but I didn’t know it would grow on beer. I found out the hard way a few years back. I set a half-full bottle of beer down somewhere that I wouldn’t knock it over, which turned out to be the perfect hiding spot, as I promptly forgot that it existed. I started to smell something really funky after a day or two, but it took me at least a week to track it down. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/71 "2010-03-05T17:07:18Z")
Ah, the old “put it down somewhere I won’t knock it over” trick. Second only to the “put it somewhere I won’t lose it” trick. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/72 "2010-03-05T17:32:44Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Ah, the old “put it down somewhere I won’t knock it over” trick. Second only to the “put it somewhere I won’t lose it” trick. 😃 Ohyah. Running gag in my family that if you see one of us desperately searching for something and ask us about it, we’re certain to say, “I put it somewhere where I knew I’d remember it!” ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/73 "2010-03-08T05:43:39Z")
I have a property management firm take care of my old house in Cleveland. (Yup, I still own it.) They check the references, screen tenants, and so on. The two times I stopped by to take a look at the house, it looked owner-occupied; it was being very well cared-for. Highly recommend it. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/74 "2010-03-08T11:05:23Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > I have a property management firm take care of my old house in Cleveland. (Yup, I still own it.) They check the references, screen tenants, and so on. The two times I stopped by to take a look at the house, it looked owner-occupied; it was being very well cared-for. Highly recommend it. Well our tenants are currently behind in the rent - so I guess pretty soon we are going to find out just how good our property management agency is. FWIW - Eviction from where our house is, is not exactly the easiest thing. ---
**Author:** ![Oliveritaly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oliveritaly/32/15233_2.png) [@Oliveritaly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oliveritaly)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000/75 "2010-03-09T16:22:15Z")
I rarely post here but man you have my sypathy. I have two houses that I rent out and I cannot tell you how valuabe both or my property managers are … might be worth the 10% to look into one sir? Just a thought. Oliveritaly [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-messy-but-seriously-have-you-no-shame-at-all/531000.md?page=3)