# You're So Vain **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 13, 2006, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830 "2006-01-13T15:49:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/21 "2006-01-13T17:09:59Z")
> [@DooWahDiddy](#): > > I hope you’re joking, because that would be _really_ frightening! It’s “clou **d** s in my coffee” Of **COURSE** I’m joking! Hence the 😛 That has to be one of my favorite Misunderstood Lyrics, though. ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/22 "2006-01-13T17:11:20Z")
**Ellen Cherry** Does that mean you find some creedece in my Frank Sinatra theory? ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/23 "2006-01-13T17:33:05Z")
> [@](#): > > You walked into the party > Like you were walking onto a yacht > Your hat strategically dipped below one eye > Your scarf it was apricot So basically, we’re looking for a transvestite with a gimpy eye and sea legs. Shouldn’t be _that_ hard to find. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/24 "2006-01-13T17:33:57Z")
> [@Ellen Cherry](#): > > You said we made such a pretty pair! You said you would never leave!! :wally You were so naïve back then. (Notice Vaïn is a misspelled anagram of Naïve without the funky umlaut.) ---
**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/25 "2006-01-13T18:05:02Z")
> [@Ellen Cherry](#): > > You said we made such a pretty pair! You said you would never leave!! :wally Are you sure he didn’t say you _had_ such a pretty pair? ---
**Author:** ![DooWahDiddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9bcb4/32.png) [@DooWahDiddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DooWahDiddy)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/26 "2006-01-13T18:24:00Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > I know somebody bought the secret but must keep the secret. [/snip] Cite? I’m intrigued by this… what do you mean somebody “bought the secret”? ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/27 "2006-01-13T18:35:13Z")
> [@Daithi Lacha](#): > > Are you sure he didn’t say you _had_ such a pretty pair? Well, you gave away the things you loved. One of them was me. Or maybe two. Ha! ---
**Author:** ![Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/779978/32.png) [@Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amazon_Floozy_Goddess)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/28 "2006-01-13T18:35:29Z")
> [@The Weird One](#): > > Clowns in the coffee? Eek! I hear that tastes funny. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/29 "2006-01-13T18:42:08Z")
> [@DooWahDiddy](#): > > [/snip] > Cite? I’m intrigued by this… what do you mean somebody “bought the secret”? [This is all I know about that…](http://www.carlysimon.com/vain/vain.htm) Skip down to “Possible Dreams Auction - 2003” if you just want the part I “remembered” ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/30 "2006-01-13T18:43:26Z")
> [@DooWahDiddy](#): > > [/snip] > Cite? I’m intrigued by this… what do you mean somebody “bought the secret”? From Carly’s [web site](http://www.carlysimon.com/vain/vain.htm): > [@](#): > > Carly’s participation in this year’s charity auction created an intense media buzz when she offered to reveal the identity of the person(s) she had in mind when she penned the song “You’re So Vain” to the highest bidder, but only after they agreed to abide by a confidentiality agreement. > > Shortly after this news was printed in People magazine, the Associated Press picked up the story and newspapers, television and radio shows around the world immediately followed. > > The news scrollers on all the major cable networks began carrying Carly’s name across the bottom of the television screen. [MSNBC.com](http://MSNBC.com) conducted a viewer’s poll where Beatty’s name earned 54% of the vote. Matt Lauer reviewed the list of usual suspects with Anthony DeCurtis (of Rolling Stone magazine) on The Today Show. Roger Friedman of Fox News went on record with his firm opinion that song was about Warren Beatty. The BBC’s Up All Night radio show interviewed Carly fans live from the US to get their opinion on who the song was written about and why this mystery has such long lasting appeal. > > On August 4th, the gavel cracked at $50,000 for Carly’s “Dream Secret”. The winner (Dick Ebersol - an NBC executive) and nine of his friends will join Carly at her home in a few weeks, at which time she will sing You’re So Vain while her guests enjoy peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and vodka on the rocks. At midnight, Mr. Ebersol alone will learn Carly’s closely guarded secret. > > “Carly told me that I could offer up to the entire world, a clue as to what she’ll tell me when we have this night in about two weeks. And the clue is: the letter ‘E’ is in the person’s name.” Dick Ebersol on NBC’s Today Show - Aug. 5th, 2003 ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/31 "2006-01-13T18:43:29Z")
> [@Ellen Cherry](#): > > You said we made such a pretty pair! You said you would never leave! > [@Daithi Lacha](#): > > Are you sure he didn’t say you _had_ such a pretty pair? That’s what I thought… _“and that they had better cleave!”_ ---
**Author:** ![liberty3701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/32 "2006-01-13T19:41:40Z")
Someone told me it was John Denver, so it must be. ---
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/33 "2006-01-13T20:00:27Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > I wasn’t sure, but I took the bait to see if my name had come up yet. I see I was punked. > > Does anybody but Warren Beatty have a claim to Carly’s mystery guest? I know somebody bought the secret but must keep the secret. Who else was in the running? Mick Jagger, **Jose Canseco** , Merv Griffin and Joe Namath are the only ones I can recall being considered. Jose Canseco was nine years old when the sone came out. I think he is out of the running. ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/34 "2006-01-13T21:07:26Z")
> [@Hal Briston (from Carly's web site)](#): > > “Carly told me that I could offer up to the entire world, a clue as to what she’ll tell me when we have this night in about two weeks. And the clue is: the letter ‘E’ is in the person’s name.” Dick Ebersol on NBC’s Today Show - Aug. 5th, 2003 Well, hell, that leaves \*me \*out. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/35 "2006-01-13T21:13:53Z")
> [@brownie55](#): > > Jose Canseco was nine years old when the sone came out. I think he is out of the running. You caught me. I made that up. Maybe it was Macaulay Culkin? Or that kid they use for Quizno’s ads? Surely Carly could see the future, right? ---
**Author:** ![MizGrand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@MizGrand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MizGrand)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2006, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/36 "2006-01-14T14:45:19Z")
> [@RSSchen](#): > > I have the most lovely apricot scarf which I wear whilst strategically dipping the side of my hat below one eye. No, no, **jr** , t’was me! ---
**Author:** ![davmilasav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9bcb4/32.png) [@davmilasav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davmilasav)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2006, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/37 "2006-01-14T17:55:53Z")
:::over in the corner, learning the Gavotte::: ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2006, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/38 "2006-01-14T21:16:45Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Hal Briston (from Carly’s web site) > “Carly told me that I could offer up to the entire world, a clue as to what she’ll tell me when we have this night in about two weeks. And the clue is: the letter ‘E’ is in the person’s name.” Dick Ebersol on NBC’s Today Show - Aug. 5th, 2003 Well, that would seem to shoot down **wolf\_meister** ’s theory, although Carly could have been thinking of Frank’s full name – Francis Albert Sinatra. And the further revelations of a and r being in the mix keep the speculation alive. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2006, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/39 "2006-01-14T23:31:40Z")
Sorry to join this thread so late, I was spending some time with the wife of a close friend… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Incantatrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/46a35a/32.png) [@Incantatrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incantatrix)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-so-vain/339830/40 "2006-01-15T03:16:41Z")
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