# You're stuck in the Mirror universe for six months minimum. Can you survive? What's your plan?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 16, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785 "2011-10-16T03:02:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/21 "2011-10-17T02:04:02Z")

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I’ve always wondered what it felt like to genuinely care.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/22 "2011-10-17T02:24:37Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> But what about countries? MirrorCanada would be poor, oppressive, intolerant of immigrants, and probably always scheming militarily.

According to the Enterprise mirror episode, the Empire runs everything at the time of the moon landing. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/23 "2011-10-17T03:08:14Z")

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Am I assured that my actions in the evil parallel universe[sup]TM[/sup] won’t affect the real universe in any way? If so, I’d rob a bank. If I make it out with the money, then I’d live on that. If I don’t make it, then at least I’ll be warm and fed in prison.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/24 "2011-10-17T03:18:17Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I don’t understand: why would I find it difficult to survive in a universe with some assholes and some nice people, and where the assholes have all the good stuff? I’ve been training for that all my life.

I tend to agree. If my memory of the Star Trek mirror universe is correct the major difference between the Mirror Universe and the regular Star Trek universe was the more overt nature of cut-throat ambition. I would probably shrug and think less hypocrisy to deal with, so which bastard should I screw over first to get what I want.

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/25 "2011-10-17T13:26:45Z")

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I’d probably join the Tea Party and rally against the regressive, country-destroying policies of Barack Obama.

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**Author:** ![Ludy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Ludy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludy)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/26 "2011-10-17T13:51:19Z")

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I would hop a plane to Somalia and be greated with cupcakes and tea from the pirates.

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/27 "2011-10-17T13:54:26Z")

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I’d content myself with watching baseball games, content in the knowledge that the Yankees finish last every year and the Cubs win the Series again.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/28 "2011-10-17T17:46:21Z")

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> [@rachelellogram](#):
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> Am I assured that my actions in the evil parallel universe[sup]TM[/sup] won’t affect the real universe in any way? If so, I’d rob a bank. If I make it out with the money, then I’d live on that. If I don’t make it, then at least I’ll be warm and fed in prison.

Don’t count on mirror humanity being humane to prisoners. The entire premise of Star Trek is that humans are good, so, in the Mirror Universe, humans are evil.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/29 "2011-10-17T17:55:34Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Don’t count on mirror humanity being humane to prisoners. The entire premise of Star Trek is that humans are good, so, in the Mirror Universe, humans are evil.

“Mr. Kyle, your Agonizer, please.”  
Dammit, we need a bearded smiley.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/30 "2011-10-17T18:44:21Z")

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Eh. I’d just unleash my inner Klingon and start working my way the ladder, one administrator at a time. Having cats that are trying eat me would be worrying though.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/31 "2011-10-17T18:50:45Z")

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Awwwwwwwwwwwwww! I guess I don’t need to worry, being on the short list and all. In the interim, I guess I’ll enjoy myself!

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/32 "2011-10-17T19:12:40Z")

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If this is Opposite Land I would have a rockin’ body and the most gorgeous, flawless skin.

Hmm…since I have a very normal sized bosom, would my cup size be half or double?

Nevermind. Doesn’t matter. I would have amazing abs and skin and hair and thus would simply spend all of my time naked, possibly dancing.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/33 "2011-10-17T19:35:11Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> How deep does the oppositeness go?
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> MirrorMe[sup]TM[/sup] would be a popular, gregarious extrovert, a real life of the party type, always flirting and picking up chicks. But he would also be oddly traditional, not particularly tolerant of the different, and probably a Conservative voter. My friends would be skinny, disdainful, miserly atheists, the kind that make you want to go to church just to spite them.
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> But what about countries? MirrorCanada would be poor, oppressive, intolerant of immigrants, and probably always scheming militarily.
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> Once I figured out what was going on, I’d head for that bastion of pluralism and tolerance, Mirror North Korea.

I don’t think it works like that. Mirror!Kirk was basically our Kirk with less conscience. Mirror Spock was very like the beardless version. Sulu & Chekov were very different, and I seem to recall McCoy being horrified by what he found in his counterpart’s lab.

The important thing about that episode is that it showed Nichelle Nichols even closer to half-naked than usual. She had a great belly.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/34 "2011-10-17T19:41:19Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> If this is Opposite Land I would have a rockin’ body and the most gorgeous, flawless skin.

You need to watch _Star Trek_ more. This is, after all, a Skald Thread.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/35 "2011-10-17T19:45:05Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> If this is Opposite Land I would have a rockin’ body and the most gorgeous, flawless skin.
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> Hmm…since I have a very normal sized bosom, would my cup size be half or double?
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> Nevermind. Doesn’t matter. I would have amazing abs and skin and hair and thus would simply spend all of my time naked, possibly dancing.

Kirk, Uhura, Scott, & McCoy looked enough like their counterparts that nobody noticed the change. This is especially notable in Uhura’s case, as she was showing a lot of skin. So I doubt your counterpart is easily distinguishable. (Admittedly, Original Spock noticed immediately, and Mirror Spock figured it out on his own as well.)

So I think MirrorZipperJJ will be physically very like you, but pretty much a sociopath.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/36 "2011-10-17T19:47:48Z")

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That’s the thing. Mirror Mika - well, this Mika has some decidedly anti-social _thoughts_, and has a strong streak of selfishness in her, but still is mostly a good person. What would Mirror Mika be like?

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/37 "2011-10-17T19:49:11Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> So I think MirrorZipperJJ will be physically very like you, but pretty much a sociopath.

Well then, fuck. Fuck your Mirror World.

I am taking my brain and going home.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/38 "2011-10-17T19:56:11Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> I am taking my brain and going home.

How do you do that?

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/39 "2011-10-17T20:00:14Z")

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I’d almost say to not go to parties at the RhymerLair, but there’s no way I’d pass up that party. 🙂

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-stuck-in-the-mirror-universe-for-six-months-minimum-can-you-survive-whats-your-plan/599785/40 "2011-10-17T20:08:26Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I’d almost say to not go to parties at the RhymerLair, but there’s no way I’d pass up that party. 🙂

The dancing girls ain’t bad, although their movements seem a bit mechanical.  
🙂

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