# You're teaching your kid a nice lesson in bigotry there **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 1, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210 "2013-05-01T15:36:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/21 "2013-05-01T17:52:29Z")
When I was in third grade, almost everyone was gay. Or at least that’s what we called each other. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/22 "2013-05-01T17:54:03Z")
Evangelism should only be limited to loving and charitable acts…not by words that hate and divide…otherwise one should not consider themselves evangelists at all…but goats in sheep’s clothing instead. That is why when I here the word “evangelism” or “evangelist” uttered by a Christian, I know something unchristian is going to be uttered next. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/23 "2013-05-01T17:56:36Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > When I was in third grade, I was–well, not quite _lusting_–I was greatly appreciative of the charms of Phyllis Coates (the brunet Lois from _The Adventures of Superman_ and Maureen O’Hara (the first Jane in the Weismueller Tarzan movies). _Brunette_, unless you were gay in the third grade. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/24 "2013-05-01T17:57:03Z")
So, is belonging to the Scouts to begin with teaching kids that bigotry can be ignored? Yeah, the Scouts policy then and now suck for GLBT people. Moreover, have they even budged on their atheist exclusion or is that bigotry still ok? What I’m saying is, it’s an unstable soapbox to be on there. ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/25 "2013-05-01T18:04:32Z")
Probably the most ludicrous part is that the BSA hasn’t actually changed it’s policy yet. It’s contemplating doing so later this month - so he’s not pulling his kid out because their might be gays, but because the BSA might allow the possibility for gays. I’m waiting for the fun contradiction when an 18 year old Eagle Scout who happens to be gay is no longer allowed to be a member of the troop he grew up in, but will be allowed to join the Venture Crew that meets in the same building, since Venturing lets one be a youth until 21. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/26 "2013-05-01T18:23:30Z")
I take it that you can’t open a [Canadian scout troop](http://wiki.scouts.ca/en/Sexuality)in the USA and be done with the bigots? (Something like that was done by some anti-gay Canadian Anglican churches – they terminated their Anglican Communion of Canada affiliation, and switched over to the Southern Cone of America (South American Anglican affiliation)). ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/27 "2013-05-01T18:35:41Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Wonder if they’ll lock him in his room. Gays are everywhere! :eek: Pretty soon there’ll be a merit badge for it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/28 "2013-05-01T18:36:07Z")
> [@artemis](#): > > If Sam’s family really are Christians, you’d think they realized that Christ spent much of his time hanging out with the scumbags of his day (prostitutes and tax collectors). Somehow I don’t think He’d approve of treating gay people as if they had cooties. But I’m only a lapsed Roman Catholic, so what do I know? To be fair the only people who had any problems with the tax collectors where people who owed taxes. And the only people who had problems with prostitutes were the people who couldn’t afford them. It would be like hanging out with one of them parking ticket officers and a hot trophy wife. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/29 "2013-05-01T18:35:58Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Hide yo ministers, hide yo children, they’re convertin everybody out here! Just don’t hide them together! We know all about clergy being alone with little kids. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/30 "2013-05-01T18:37:45Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Group think and social conditioning is a pretty powerful force, I’d expect it’d take some time before someone who was homosexual would know it. > > I’d be interested in seeing the results of a Doper poll of the LGBT community to see when they knew it. My first crush I remember was a boy in my kindergarten class. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/31 "2013-05-01T18:46:31Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > Yeah, I wonder about a third grade boy being gay too. I’m sure there are third graders who’ve passed by my notice, but other third graders I’ve met I’d bet my house they’ll be gay. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/32 "2013-05-01T18:46:48Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > _Brunette_, unless you were gay in the third grade. 😉 “Brunet” was not a typo. If I wanted to inflect my adjectives for gender, I’d be writing in Italian, and nobody wants that. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/33 "2013-05-01T18:47:24Z")
Tax collectors are gay Cub Scouts? Who knew? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/34 "2013-05-01T18:51:38Z")
When this story reared its ugly head, I wondered what the Girl Scouts’ stance was on lesbians, and it’s this: THEY DON’T HAVE ONE. 🆒 In addition, unless an event is explicitly females only, men may attend as long as an adult woman is present. There were two girls in my troop who were being raised by single fathers; one was a widower, and the other had sole custody at a time when that kind of thing was almost unheard-of, and trust me, there were some very good reasons why the kids lived with him. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/35 "2013-05-01T18:53:06Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > “Brunet” was not a typo. If I wanted to inflect my adjectives for gender, I’d be writing in Italian, and nobody wants that. But you did inflect for gender, didn’t you? The much more common term in English is brunette, for either gender. Brunet is used much more often to refer specifically to men. So you’ve chosen to depart from the gender neutral term to use the masculine term in an effort to make the masculine term be gender-neutral. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/36 "2013-05-01T19:06:49Z")
You’d have to be pretty gay to care about that. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/37 "2013-05-01T19:09:04Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > But you did inflect for gender, didn’t you? The much more common term in English is brunette, for either gender. Brunet is used much more often to refer specifically to men. So you’ve chosen to depart from the gender neutral term to use the masculine term in an effort to make the masculine term be gender-neutral. I would say that I deliberately, idiosyncratically, obstinately, arrogantly, and ostentatiously refused to use the usual inflection of “brunet” (which I concede has become the norm for people who don’t think about such things) as part of a long-standing personal dislike for the notion that women are appropriately defined by their hair color (and their physical appearance in general). The usage was meant to draw attention to itself; it was a refusal to conform. What it was NOT was a typographical error. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/38 "2013-05-01T19:24:57Z")
I’m keeping my future kids out of the scouts until they stop allowing avowed heterosexuals run troops and join as scouts. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/39 "2013-05-01T19:33:15Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > When this story reared its ugly head, I wondered what the Girl Scouts’ stance was on lesbians, and it’s this: THEY DON’T HAVE ONE. I actually knew that. Do you know why? Because a parent (from another troop) once told me that if BSA allowed homosexuals in, they would be as bad as “those liberal dyke Girl Scouts”. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210/40 "2013-05-01T20:13:38Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > I actually knew that. Do you know why? Because a parent (from another troop) once told me that if BSA allowed homosexuals in, they would be as bad as “those liberal dyke Girl Scouts”. Ooooohhhhh…but _their_ cookies…😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-teaching-your-kid-a-nice-lesson-in-bigotry-there/657210.md?page=3)