# Youtube is cancelling IE6 --which browser should I Downgrade to?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youtube-is-cancelling-ie6-which-browser-should-i-downgrade-to/504122>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 24, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youtube-is-cancelling-ie6-which-browser-should-i-downgrade-to/504122 "2009-07-24T14:24:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youtube-is-cancelling-ie6-which-browser-should-i-downgrade-to/504122/21 "2009-07-26T00:51:37Z")

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Please don’t tease the luddites.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youtube-is-cancelling-ie6-which-browser-should-i-downgrade-to/504122/22 "2009-07-26T01:06:28Z")

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> [@Erasmus\_Darwin](#):
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> Given chappachula’s opinion on change, Firefox is an awful suggestion. They have a nasty habit of refusing to provide security updates for older versions of the browser thus forcing everyone to either use an insecure version of Firefox or deal with a new interface.

Isn’t that generally true for most browsers, and for that matter, most software products? That security updates aren’t provided indefinitely for older versions? How is Firefox unique?

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**Author:** ![Erasmus\_Darwin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@Erasmus\_Darwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erasmus_Darwin)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youtube-is-cancelling-ie6-which-browser-should-i-downgrade-to/504122/23 "2009-07-26T01:29:48Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> How is Firefox unique?

The length of time. FF2 was killed after only 2 years.

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**Author:** ![Stealth\_Potato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Stealth\_Potato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stealth_Potato)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youtube-is-cancelling-ie6-which-browser-should-i-downgrade-to/504122/24 "2009-07-26T03:56:42Z")

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> [@BrandonR](#):
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> This reminds me of an April Fools’ website that came out to try and “save IE6”: [http://saveie6.com/](http://saveie6.com/) Which is pretty funny because the other pages on the site show why it’s such a terrible browser.

I’m glad I wasn’t drinking something when I clicked that link, else you’d owe me a new keyboard! Apparently one of their goals is to “_Get the W3C standard changed to fit IE6_.” That’s bloody brilliant. The helpful “Download IE6 Now” wizard is the best. 😃

Seriously though, IE6 is terrible for a lot of reasons besides just modern web standards. It’s also probably the most insecure browser out there, and if you are making regular use of it on today’s web, there is probably a 120% chance that your computer is currently owned by the Russian mafia and being used to send Viagra spam to old ladies.

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**Author:** ![Discipline](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/82dd89/32.png) [@Discipline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Discipline)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youtube-is-cancelling-ie6-which-browser-should-i-downgrade-to/504122/25 "2009-07-26T04:11:08Z")

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> Thats exactly what I’m complaining about…why the hell does the new "up"graded version drop all the menus that I am so comfortable using.?That’s why I call it a “Down” grade.
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> And how the hell am I supposed to know that there is a simple fix to it?.

By default, there is a Tools button/menu item in plain sight. Clicking it displays the same menu you’ve seen for years. From that menu, you can select Toolbars, and re-enable the menubar.

Basically, they assume you’re willing to look around long enough to figure these things out yourself because they aren’t all that different.

As horrible as IE6 was, you should be happy that they’ve made it as easy as it is to transition. People are creatures of habit and resistant to change, but interfaces evolve along with our understanding of human/computer interaction.

You’re going to have to learn something new every once in a while, sorry.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youtube-is-cancelling-ie6-which-browser-should-i-downgrade-to/504122/26 "2009-07-26T05:32:15Z")

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[K-Meleon rocks](http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/)!!!

It is blazing fast and uses the Mozilla engine so it’s similar enough to Firefox.

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**Author:** ![Casserole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b77776/32.png) [@Casserole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casserole)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youtube-is-cancelling-ie6-which-browser-should-i-downgrade-to/504122/27 "2009-07-26T07:42:03Z")

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I’d just like to point out that it’s now “Firefox 3.5”.

HTML5… yum.

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