# Yuri Andropov: Hip to be square

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yuri-andropov-hip-to-be-square/768875>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 17, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yuri-andropov-hip-to-be-square/768875 "2016-10-17T21:03:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yuri-andropov-hip-to-be-square/768875/21 "2016-10-19T13:35:58Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> That’s not just a swanky tie, but impeccably knotted as well. Looks like a full Windsor.

Indeed. I wonder how many tries it took before they got that red diamond perfectly aligned in the centre of the knot. (My partner was sure it was a tie pin until I zoomed in to show her that it’s printed on the fabric.)

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yuri-andropov-hip-to-be-square/768875/22 "2016-10-19T13:54:42Z")

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> [@psychonaut](#):
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> Indeed. I wonder how many tries it took before they got that red diamond perfectly aligned in the centre of the knot. (My partner was sure it was a tie pin until I zoomed in to show her that it’s printed on the fabric.)

Maybe it was a clip-on.

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yuri-andropov-hip-to-be-square/768875/23 "2016-10-19T14:18:26Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Maybe it was a clip-on.

Did the Soviets even have access to that kind of technology?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yuri-andropov-hip-to-be-square/768875/24 "2016-10-19T14:35:09Z")

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> [@psychonaut](#):
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> …In addition to the airbrushed [Andropov](http://upyourpic.org/images/201310/lt1fm5ba25.jpg) of my OP, we can also find plenty of airbrushed [Brezhnevs](https://blogs.miamioh.edu/havighurst/2015/10/07/the-case-for-brezhnev/), [Chernenkos](http://slavyanskaya-kultura.ru/upload/wysiwyg/ddacacd4f150a8c65fcd1a9695a108e6.jpg), and [Gorbachevs](http://cultureru.com/gorbachev/) in exactly the same style.

They’re still doing it in North Korea:

[http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/real-life-villains/images/5/5c/Kim\_Il\_Sung\_Portrait-2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150609053940](http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/real-life-villains/images/5/5c/Kim_Il_Sung_Portrait-2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150609053940)  
[![](https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/images/kim-jong-il_portrait.jpg) ](https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/images/kim-jong-il_portrait.jpg)  
[![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Kim_Jong-Un_Photorealistic-Sketch.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Kim_Jong-Un_Photorealistic-Sketch.jpg)

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yuri-andropov-hip-to-be-square/768875/25 "2016-10-19T14:50:40Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> They’re still doing it in North Korea:
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> [http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/real-life-villains/images/5/5c/Kim\_Il\_Sung\_Portrait-2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150609053940](http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/real-life-villains/images/5/5c/Kim_Il_Sung_Portrait-2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150609053940)  
> [http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/images/kim-jong-il\_portrait.jpg](http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/images/kim-jong-il_portrait.jpg)  
> [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Kim\_Jong-Un\_Photorealistic-Sketch.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Kim_Jong-Un_Photorealistic-Sketch.jpg)

You don’t need to tell me; I visited there last year and saw enough Kim portraits to last me the rest of my life. (Incidentally, the Kim Jong-Un portrait you linked to isn’t an official one, but rather the work of a Wikipedian artist.)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yuri-andropov-hip-to-be-square/768875/26 "2016-10-19T15:07:12Z")

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Better?

[![](https://i.pinimg.com/236x/06/02/9e/06029e148d58fb5e757363726a96b48a.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/236x/06/02/9e/06029e148d58fb5e757363726a96b48a.jpg)

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**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yuri-andropov-hip-to-be-square/768875/27 "2016-10-19T15:21:05Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> You might find this interesting, it is [Every US President’s Style, Ranked.](http://www.racked.com/2014/11/4/7570383/presidential-style-ranking)

It’s amazing how much Millard Fillmore (#29) does look like a grump Alec Baldwin.

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yuri-andropov-hip-to-be-square/768875/28 "2016-10-19T15:40:21Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Better?
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> [https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/06/02/9e/06029e148d58fb5e757363726a96b48a.jpg](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/06/02/9e/06029e148d58fb5e757363726a96b48a.jpg)

Delightful! Goes very well with [my favourite Kim Jong-Un poem](http://www.lightenup-online.co.uk/index.php/2013/issue-22-june-2013/389-peter-goulding-go-friendly-bobbs), by Peter Goulding.

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