# Yvette Felarca: heroine? ... or terrorist? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237 "2017-02-07T16:13:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/81 "2017-02-09T23:55:59Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Are you volunteering to step up? > > Neither you nor anyone else will “shame” me into feeling anything good toward a Nazi. As for employing “admirable violence” on me, that’s something guys like that want. So why should I give a damn about him? > > The law can deal with her, but I am NOT required to care about that other asshole, one tiny bit. You still miss the point. Do you work at being that simple? ---
**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/82 "2017-02-10T00:34:30Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Somehow, the fact that it was a white supremacist, and knowing what they stand for, even though the LAW says we can’t assault him … I find myself not giving a fuck about his well being. I have nothing but contempt for white supremacists. Antifa on the other hand are political football hooligans. Violence is not the best way to deal with people who are not themselves being violent; better to surround them with people pointing and laughing at them. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/83 "2017-02-10T17:05:48Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You still miss the point. Do you work at being that simple? As I said, the LAW can deal with her. I am not going to be the “Champion Of The Nazis”. Are these “antifa” extremists assholes too? Hell yes. The LAW can deal with them too. And just for the sake of equivalency, I don’t give a damn about their “health and welfare” either. Is that fucking “equivalent” enough for you??? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/84 "2017-02-10T17:29:16Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > I find it utterly amazing how many on the left believe it is OK to physically attack someone exercising their constitutional rights as long as you disagree with them. Agree 100%. I seems they believe constitutional rights extend only to those they deem worthy. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/85 "2017-02-10T17:33:18Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Agree 100%. I seems they believe constitutional rights extend only to those they deem worthy. The left supports free speech, the equal protection of the law, and tolerance. Towards anyone who agrees with them. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/86 "2017-02-10T17:39:40Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Where is the dishonesty? You claimed my post was solely about Felarca. You either can’t read or you are a liar. I bolded and underlined the parts of my text—which you quoted—that clearly show that you are a lying piece of shit. It’s there for everyone to see. Really. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/87 "2017-02-10T17:44:16Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Well, let me answer your question to avoid the charge of refusing. > _Yes, I continue to believe many male-female interactions are permissible one way, but not with genders reversed._ Does that make me some sort of chauvinist? No. It makes you a (reverse) sexist because in this case there is no difference if the genders were reversed. You are basically in the camp of “girls can hit boys but boys can’t defend themselves” ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/88 "2017-02-10T17:49:25Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > In fact the relative gravity of pussy grabbing and minor pushing seems so clear to me, that I wonder if there’s some trick wording in your comments, that you’re ready to deploy as a Gotcha! If not … Yes, please do start the IMHO Poll. Obviously one of us has a very strange idea of social norms and will be woken up. So you now characterize the pushing as minor, and you leave out her punching. Wonder why:rolleyes: Are you of the mind that just because Felarca is slight of stature and weak that she should be able to push and punch someone? Can you lay out how this works? Who is allowed to punch whom? Are their weight guidelines, height guidelines, gender guidelines, fitness guidelines, emotional guidelines that go to how just dare mad someone is guidelines? How does this work? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/89 "2017-02-10T17:51:43Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > No. It makes you a (reverse) sexist because in this case there is no difference if the genders were reversed. You are basically in the camp of “girls can hit boys but boys can’t defend themselves” Yep. And I wonder if his stance would change, and why, if Felraca had been training to be a MMA fighter. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/90 "2017-02-10T18:00:25Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > You claimed my post was solely about Felarca. You either can’t read or you are a liar. I bolded and underlined the parts of my text—which you quoted—that clearly show that you are a lying piece of shit. It’s there for everyone to see. Really. You’re right! (Though I didn’t make that explicit claim.) The first five sentences of your post dealt with her specifically, misleading me, but you do go on to condemn “her supporters” as well. Go ahead and condemn me as a liar or illiterate if you wish; the fact is I just give your posts the attention they deserve , i.e. the very briefest of skims. As for the latest posts by you and **Cad** — all I can say is, you both need to learn to read English better. I know it’s hard, but try to keep more than one sentence in your head at a time. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/91 "2017-02-10T18:11:29Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > You’re right! (Though I didn’t make that explicit claim.) The first five sentences of your post dealt with her specifically, misleading me, but you do go on to condemn “her supporters” as well. > > Go ahead and condemn me as a liar or illiterate if you wish; the fact is I just give your posts the attention they deserve , i.e. the very briefest of skims. > > As for the latest posts by you and **Cad** — all I can say is, you both need to learn to read English better. I know it’s hard, but try to keep more than one sentence in your head at a time. Thank you for admitting your error. I the future, you should probably read more than ha;f of the first paragraph before you get emotional enough to start an additional thread on a subject. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/92 "2017-02-10T19:55:04Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Thank you for admitting your error. > > I the future, you should probably read more than ha;f of the first paragraph before you get emotional enough to start an additional thread on a subject. You sure do want it to be all about _ **you** _! I’ll resuurect one of the many _Let’s Pit Magellan01_ threads if that’s so important to you. In fact my interest was in Yvette Felarca and my very sincere question: Should I treat her as heroine? Or terrorist? Quoting your post was just to add some comic relief to this thread. There goes **magellan01** , _bitter_ that the police aren’t doing a better job protecting his Nazi friends but _delighted_ when they pull out knives and stab the woman who had been tormenting one of them with her feeble pushes! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/93 "2017-02-10T21:39:44Z")
Repeated for the reading impaired… > [@SteveG1](#): > > As I said, the LAW can deal with her. I am not going to be the “Champion Of The Nazis”. Are these “antifa” extremists assholes too? Hell yes. The LAW can deal with them too. And just for the sake of equivalency, I don’t give a damn about their “health and welfare” either. > > Is that fucking “equivalent” enough for you??? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/94 "2017-02-10T21:44:47Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > As I said, the LAW can deal with her. I am not going to be the “Champion Of The Nazis”. Are these “antifa” extremists assholes too? Hell yes. The LAW can deal with them too. And just for the sake of equivalency, I don’t give a damn about their “health and welfare” either. > > Is that fucking “equivalent” enough for you??? No. Because you miss the implications of your point of view. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/95 "2017-02-10T21:47:44Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > No. Because you miss the implications of your point of view. Explain it, oh great mind reader. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/96 "2017-02-10T22:44:26Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Explain it, oh great mind reader. I’m basing my commentary off of what you write not what you think. I’m assuming your expressed point of view is a reasonable approximation of your point of view. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/97 "2017-02-10T23:02:42Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I’m basing my commentary off of what you write not what you think. I’m assuming your expressed point of view is a reasonable approximation of your point of view. So state the implications of his point of view. You say he misses them but haven’t said what they are. Hailstorms? Cats and dogs living together in harmony? Clarence Clearwater Revival tribute bands? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/98 "2017-02-10T23:24:36Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > You sure do want it to be all about _ **you** _! I’ll resuurect one of the many _Let’s Pit Magellan01_ threads if that’s so important to you. > > In fact my interest was in Yvette Felarca and my very sincere question: Should I treat her as heroine? Or terrorist? > > Quoting your post was just to add some comic relief to this thread. There goes **magellan01** , _bitter_ that the police aren’t doing a better job protecting his Nazi friends but _delighted_ when they pull out knives and stab the woman who had been tormenting one of them with her feeble pushes! :smack: What the hell are you talking about, that I want this to be about me. YOU posted my quote in your OP, and then lied about what I said. And then when I tried to correct you on it you first dug your hooves in until you finally had to admit your error.So, go start whatever pit thread you want about me. And I challenge you to find even one post—just one—in which I said anything in support of nazis. I dislike nazis and neo-nazis just as much as I hate other racist dumbbells. The world has too much stupid in it. So, if you were to be locked in a closet with a nazi, it would really be difficult to care much which one came out alive. The world would be just as stupid either way. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/99 "2017-02-10T23:30:38Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I’m basing my commentary off of what you write not what you think. I’m assuming your expressed point of view is a reasonable approximation of your point of view. I thought I made it pretty damn simple. The law can have them both/all/whatever. In the meanwhile I don’t give a fuck what happens to them, and I am not required to give a fuck. You want to cry because one asshole got in a tussle with another asshole? be my guest. Just don’t expect me to care. They could both be hit by lightning for all I care. Same goes for the other morons who were in on that “fight”. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/100 "2017-02-10T23:51:25Z")
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