# Yvette Felarca: heroine? ... or terrorist?

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**Created:** [February 7, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237 "2017-02-07T16:13:18Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-heroine-or-terrorist/779237/68 "2017-02-09T14:22:30Z")

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I’ve tracked down the post by **The Other Waldo Pepper** that caused such consternation, not just by me but by several. It took the contrary position in a thread on the theme that Trump was a dangerous racist.

> [@So, this is what it looks like before the war.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-this-is-what-it-looks-like-before-the-war/772407/13):
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> Oh, for crying out loud.
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> I just watched a campaign, an _election,_ where (a) one side stood up and made the wacky assertion that we should treat lawbreakers like lawbreakers, and (b) the other side said, _whoa, hold on; that’s a really tough question._
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> And even now – after the folks on the side of mere tautology won – you can’t bring yourself to launch into the rest of some parade of horribles without making sure your go-to rallying cry, the first thing on your tongue to deride a comparison to Nixon, the italicized ‘detail’ half of a general ‘racist’ barb, the attention-getter chosen _twice_ from among all others to kick off the first post of a thread, is _oh, no, you guys; he said he’s gonna treat lawbreakers like lawbreakers! Can you imagine?_
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> You still _open_ with that, for a running start at ‘bigot’ and ‘Nazis’ and ‘Hitler’?

Yes, **Mr. Pepper** , some of us do consider the lawbreakers == lawbreakers tautology to be wacky, if the left-side of the equation includes a kid brought to U.S. as an infant who is leading an exemplary life, and the right side equates to incarceration, deportation and other punishment for his crimes.

Setting that aside, I did not find your post clear. It could have been accompanied with an “I didn’t support Trump but …” if you wanted to clarify your views. After all, you were effectively defending Trump and his supporters in a thread against them.

Your insistence on facile tautologies, like “lawbreakers are lawbreakers”, is on display in this thread as well. I admire Ms. Felarca so you assume I admire Jack the Ripper as well. Ms. Felarca pushed a Nazi trying to provoke her, so you assume she’ll push you also if you come up with one of your brilliant lines like “lawbreakers are lawbreakers” in her presence.

Your previous complaint is ironic, since I’ve used the term “Kindergarten syllogism” in _this_ thread. Perhaps you should focus on the quality of your argumentation.

> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> The real point is, you don’t actually believe she’s like unto King or the Founding Fathers – because you’ve noted that (a) while you think her approach will enrage and stupefy some, (b) you doubt that her approach _will actually do any good_. Minus that justification, the comparison seems to vanish like ice cream in the sun; she’s just someone who you never doubted had committed assault – and who, for all I know, may assault me next.

And again, you’re jumping to facile conclusions. We all admire MLK, but did Malcolm X or the Black Panthers also advance the black-rights cause? _I don’t know_. In previous threads I’ve learned that many or most Dopers regard John Brown as a despicable terrorist, but his actions _may_ have freed millions.

Your phrase “vanish like ice cream in the sun” seems to imply that if not 100% certain Felarca is a force for good, than I’m 100% certain she’s an evil force. In fact my psychological difficulty is quite opposite to yours. Instead of arriving at black-white conclusions, I dither between “45%? … or 55%?” without ever coming to easy answers!

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