# Yvette Felarca, of BAMN / Antifa fame, arrested for assault **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 20, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763 "2017-07-20T23:25:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/41 "2017-07-21T17:55:53Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > And also worth addressing, the way you’re using Google here doesn’t show what think it does. To illustrate my point, searching the term [CNN Antifa yielded 506,000 hits](https://www.google.ca/search?q=CNN+Antifa). > > Do you think this somehow indicates that CNN is the biggest Antifa-story-pusher of them all? Or that your Google-hits-method-of-analysis is shit? Flail all you want, but unless you’ve got better information about which side is pushing this “Antifa” story more, I’ll stick with what I’ve got for now. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/42 "2017-07-21T18:02:36Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > And also worth addressing, the way you’re using Google here doesn’t show what think it does. To illustrate my point, searching the term [CNN Antifa yielded 506,000 hits](https://www.google.ca/search?q=CNN+Antifa). > > Do you think this somehow indicates that CNN is the biggest Antifa-story-pusher of them all? Or that your Google-hits-method-of-analysis is shit? How many hits once you remove [the 327,000 hits involving the fake news story that Fox fell for?](https://www.google.ca/search?q=fake+antifa+cnn&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=uUByWe7oMInqjwSFvK-wDA) ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/43 "2017-07-21T18:03:19Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > BTW, I’d really like a response to this. Don’t just ignore it please. You called part of my post a “supposed ‘fact’”. After (hopefully) re-reading the post, and this reiteration of it, do you now concede it was an _actual_ fact, and not just a “supposed” one? **Czarcasm** , this post was written for you. If you’re going to post something like this > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Did you _honestly_ think I wouldn’t check on that supposed “fact”? > > … you ought to have the decency to either clarify what you meant or admit that you were wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/44 "2017-07-21T18:10:15Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > **Czarcasm** , this post was written for you. If you’re going to post something like this > > you ought to have the decency to either clarify what you meant or admit that you were wrong. I think the response I already made pointed out that, at best, what you posted was part fact meant to deflect which side is pushing this, and why. If what you are seeking is a cheap concession to satisfy some superficial need, might I suggest you go to your local county fair. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/45 "2017-07-21T18:11:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > How many hits once you remove [the 327,000 hits involving the fake news story that Fox fell for?](https://www.google.ca/search?q=fake+antifa+cnn&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=uUByWe7oMInqjwSFvK-wDA) Well, it looks like “fake antifa cnn” yielded 334,000 results (I just followed your link). [“fake antifa “fox news”” yields 158,000](https://www.google.com/search?q=fake+antifa+%22fox+news%22). So far we’ve got CNN ‘winning’ on both comparisons. 506,000 \> 414,000 334,000 \> 158,000 Why is it so hard for you to concede the by-now-obvious-to-all point that examining the number of results Google returns for something is a shitty way of analyzing something? I mean, I get that it was _your_ way, but it sucks. Admit it, and move on with life. Right now, you’re just digging yourself into a deeper hole. ETA: It just dawned on me that maybe you don’t really understand much of how Google works. Is that your problem? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/46 "2017-07-21T18:14:33Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I think the response I already made pointed out that, at best, what you posted was part fact meant to deflect which side is pushing this, and why. > If what you are seeking is a cheap concession to satisfy some superficial need, might I suggest you go to your local county fair. No, the portion of my post that you quoted in #25 was _ENTIRELY_ factual. ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/47 "2017-07-21T18:20:51Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Not a defense…but I did find it mildly interesting. What? That there are like three conservatives on this board? Or that Antifa folks would get a pass on the 'Dope with a ‘Well, I don’t like their methods but…’ by a reasonable portion of the board? (And by reasonable portion, I mean a number \> the number of conservatives on the board) Or that the liberals on this board would be unlikely to post criticism of the Antifa nut jobs because, while they are nut jobs, they are righteous nutjobs? There are nutjobs on both sides. The problem isn’t that they don’t get called out. The problem is\* that they don’t get called out by their own side\*. Lately, the political violence in the U.S. has come from the left. It has been that way since about 1968 or so. Yes, there are people on the right who have committed violence, no doubt. But the [large](http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/us/oregon-protest-riot/index.html)[scale](http://abc7news.com/news/fires-erupt-vandalism-reported-at-anti-trump-protest-in-oakland-/1599421/)riots have been from the left. As well as violence with the intent to [stifle](http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/milo-yiannopoulos-berkeley/index.html)speech (Note, Milo is an ass). Slee ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/48 "2017-07-21T18:38:05Z")
See first response in post #6. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/49 "2017-07-21T18:47:15Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Mention on the SDMB some right-winger doing something shitty, and you get three pages of denunciations of the right-wing. Out of curiosity, where are you seeing three-page-long threads about a right-winger who punched someone in the stomach, or did something at that level of harm? I’m not talking about right-wingers who are famous pundits, or right-wingers who hold political office, or right-wingers who lynch someone; I’m talking about yer average violent asshole who happens to be motivated by right-wing thoughts. It’s fine to condemn those antifa folks who engage in violence, but there’s certainly an effort to make them out to be more important than they really are. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/50 "2017-07-21T18:49:43Z")
Three conservatives on this board? _Really?_ ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/51 "2017-07-21T18:56:44Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > Lately, the political violence in the U.S. has come from the left. It has been that way since about 1968 or so. The fuck? Eric Rudolph? Oklahoma City Bombing? Army of God? Sovereign Citizens? Anti-abortion shootings? Dylann Roof? The claim that riots comprise left-wing violence is rich. Unlike the rioters, which is where the claim comes from: apparently because lefties make economic equality a centerpiece of politics, when people on the bottom socioeconomic rung lose their shit and riot, suddenly that’s political violence. That’s absurd. Timothy McVeigh alone murdered more people than all left-wing politically-motivated killers combined, in the US in the last half century. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/52 "2017-07-21T19:06:22Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > What? That there are like three conservatives on this board? Or that Antifa folks would get a pass on the 'Dope with a ‘Well, I don’t like their methods but…’ by a reasonable portion of the board? (And by reasonable portion, I mean a number \> the number of conservatives on the board) Or that the liberals on this board would be unlikely to post criticism of the Antifa nut jobs because, while they are nut jobs, they are righteous nutjobs? > > There are nutjobs on both sides. The problem isn’t that they don’t get called out. The problem is\* that they don’t get called out by their own side\*. Lately, the political violence in the U.S. has come from the left. It has been that way since about 1968 or so. Yes, there are people on the right who have committed violence, no doubt. But the [large](http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/us/oregon-protest-riot/index.html)[scale](http://abc7news.com/news/fires-erupt-vandalism-reported-at-anti-trump-protest-in-oakland-/1599421/)riots have been from the left. As well as violence with the intent to [stifle](http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/milo-yiannopoulos-berkeley/index.html)speech (Note, Milo is an ass). > > Slee They have been called out when the have been violent. On this board and in many other places. Do we need to call them out each and every time they do something newsworthy? Do we need to call them out each and every time _you_ think about them? How often do you call out the KKK? How often do you call out these [guys](http://nypost.com/2015/07/02/cops-save-anti-nypd-flag-burners-from-angry-bikers/)? I really don’t know much about antifa other than what I hear in the news and what I hear from right leaning commentators like yourself and HD. I agree with their principles, I am anti fascist as well. I agree with many of their methods (not sure about the masks, but as long as they aren’t using the masks to hide violent activities, that’s fine), showing up at the local islamic center and peacefully counter protesting the islamophobic assholes is something that I support 100%. Even peacefully protesting against invited college speakers is their right. That some make the movement look violent to others is a problem, and one where I am happy when people like Yvette are to face consequences for their actions, as it should discourage other antifas from participating in violence in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/53 "2017-07-21T19:21:03Z")
Already existing Pit thread: [Antifas - the largely imaginary bogeyman of the far right](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=830100). ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/54 "2017-07-21T19:23:16Z")
I’m of the opinion that reading agendas into posters making a thread or giving some kind of “Do you call these guys out”?? post is near thread-shitting. It’s in mundane, no one is making you read it. There have been several riots that did a lot of damage. Several instances of stopping traffic to demonstrate. And in Europe they are VERY real. I’ve linked the youtube clips before and will be happy to do so again. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/55 "2017-07-21T20:15:38Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > I’m of the opinion that reading agendas into posters making a thread or giving some kind of “Do you call these guys out”?? post is near thread-shitting. I generally leave that up to the discretion of the OP and the mods. If **HD** perceived my comments as threadshitting, I apologize. My comment was intended to open a critical dialog with someone I perceive as having enough intellectual honesty to engage with the idea. It may have come off as harsh but it was intended in good faith. If it helps, at all, I seem to be confusing a lot of people on these boards today. My ADD is so bad today I keep misplacing my arguments. I can’t even figure out why I posted what I did in the first place, or how I really feel about it. All I really know is my intent wasn’t bad. [QUOTE=sleestak] Or that Antifa folks would get a pass on the 'Dope with a ‘Well, I don’t like their methods but…’ by a reasonable portion of the board? (And by reasonable portion, I mean a number \> the number of conservatives on the board) Or that the liberals on this board would be unlikely to post criticism of the Antifa nut jobs because, while they are nut jobs, they are righteous nutjobs? [/QUOTE] I’ve never seen any of those things happen. Liberals are posting criticisms of Antifa in this very thread. I have never seen anyone on these boards defend that behavior. I’m sure there’s some random asshole who would, but I’ve never seen it happen, and it sure as hell never happened in this thread. That said, I agree people have blind spots with regard to bad behavior coming from their own side. You believing that ‘‘most of the violence is coming from the left wing’’ these days is a good example. Violence is endemic to humanity, it is a bad idea, it causes suffering, I generally recommend against it. But the problem isn’t political, it’s human. US society is currently so politically polarized that political radicalism is the most convenient way for violent folks to express themselves and still feel self-righteous about it. Shit’s gone sideways on both the left and the right, and neither side seems to have figured out a strategy for dealing with it _other_ than blaming the other side. I think people on the Straight Dope are much better at calling this sort of stuff out than the average person. To a certain extent it’s preaching to the choir. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/56 "2017-07-21T20:30:48Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > BTW, I’d really like a response to this. Don’t just ignore it please. You called part of my post a “supposed ‘fact’”. After (hopefully) re-reading the post, and this reiteration of it, do you now concede it was an _actual_ fact, and not just a “supposed” one? Ignore him. He isnt interested in any real debate. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/57 "2017-07-21T20:32:38Z")
Man, if you get this worked up about one person nobody’s heard of committing violence against free speech, then you must have been really pissed off when someone got elected to the House of Representatives after committing violence against free speech. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/58 "2017-07-21T20:34:10Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Ignore him. He isnt interested in any real debate. Sure I am. Got one? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/59 "2017-07-21T20:53:31Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > This is kind of an obsession with you, isn’t it? > > May I ask why? I mean, obviously, if guilty, her behavior is reprehensible, but this is your ten billionth thread about the horrors of Antifa, and honestly I’m not sure how ‘‘famous’’ she is because I never even heard of Antifa before you. As far as I can tell, they are about as reflective of mainstream liberalism as the KKK is reflective of Christians. They are a faction of radicals doing radical things in the place where people have always done radical things - college campuses. These people are anarchist nutjobs. > > You remind me of this guy I once knew who managed to relate every political problem in existence to the federal reserve. Now there may very well be sound arguments in favor of abolishing it, but he undermined all credibility with his obsession. It engendered a fundamental mistrust in his motives. Likewise, you seem singlemindedly fixated on the actions of a handful of left-wing anarchist radicals. > > I mean, you aren’t under the impression this behavior is _common_, are you? Or that there are scores of people out there condoning it? What exactly is your axe to grind here? > > It bears repeating, this is in response not to this thread alone, but the aggregate of your threads, most of which appear to be about Antifa. Tell it. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/60 "2017-07-21T20:59:56Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I generally leave that up to the discretion of the OP and the mods. If **HD** perceived my comments as threadshitting, I apologize. My comment was intended to open a critical dialog with someone I perceive as having enough intellectual honesty to engage with the idea. It may have come off as harsh but it was intended in good faith. > > If it helps, at all, I seem to be confusing a lot of people on these boards today. My ADD is so bad today I keep misplacing my arguments. I can’t even figure out why I posted what I did in the first place, or how I really feel about it. All I really know is my intent wasn’t bad. I shouldn’t have said anything. It really wasn’t directed at anyone in particular. Personally _I_ was interested cause i knew exactly who that nutjob was and I’m glad to see her get arrested. But until Antifa ups their ante (I haven’t seen anything crazy lately in the US) I should probably not say anything. I’ve gone on record as saying they’re partially larping anyway. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763.md?page=4)