# Yvette Felarca, of BAMN / Antifa fame, arrested for assault **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 20, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763 "2017-07-20T23:25:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/61 "2017-07-21T22:30:40Z")
What about fa? What’s up with those guys? They’re the ones that antifa is at war with? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/62 "2017-07-21T22:46:13Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > What about fa? What’s up with those guys? They’re the ones that antifa is at war with? mi and so keep fa well contained. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/63 "2017-07-21T23:45:32Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > mi and so keep fa well contained. And even if it got out, that’s a long long way to run. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/64 "2017-07-22T00:55:07Z")
I don’t see how this alters anything I said before. She decided that attacking fascists with violence was worth the eventual punishment she would receive. She is now getting the punishment I pointed out she would receive. The only thing that bothers me is how much Antifa, an anti-fascist organization, is attacked on the Right. Why does the Right seem so terrified, and lap up all this information about a violent member getting in trouble? Why is the Right Wing media circuit trying to discredit them so hard? What does that say about the Right in this country right now? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/65 "2017-07-24T22:22:53Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Why does the Right seem so terrified, and lap up all this information about a violent member getting in trouble? I don’t know where you got the impression that “the Right” was terrified. I certainly don’t feel that way. As for the information about her and her colleagues, it’s probably of interest to conservatives because we value law and order. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/66 "2017-07-24T22:29:02Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I don’t know where you got the impression that “the Right” was terrified. I certainly don’t feel that way. As for the information about her and her colleagues, it’s probably of interest to conservatives because we value law and order. Trying to imply that liberals don’t? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/67 "2017-07-24T23:01:57Z")
Just another bogeyman to get the gun-clutchers all stirred up. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/68 "2017-07-24T23:03:49Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Trying to imply that liberals don’t? I can’t tell if this is serious. Conservatives and liberals do have different priorities, according to research. They’ve been defined by some researchers as ‘‘binding’’ vs. ‘‘individualizing’’ values and are the reason conservatives are more likely to [blame the victim of an assault.](https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/10/the-psychology-of-victim-blaming/502661/) So yes, by and large, conservatives value law and order more than liberals. Liberals would be more interested in individual identity and justice for the wronged and that sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/69 "2017-07-24T23:10:57Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Trying to imply that liberals don’t? I think it’s a more common emphasis among conservatives. Have you ever heard of “law and order Republicans”? Have you ever heard the phrase “law and order Democrats” before? ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/70 "2017-07-24T23:43:27Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > The fuck? Eric Rudolph? Oklahoma City Bombing? Army of God? Sovereign Citizens? Anti-abortion shootings? Dylann Roof? > > The claim that riots comprise left-wing violence is rich. Unlike the rioters, which is where the claim comes from: apparently because lefties make economic equality a centerpiece of politics, when people on the bottom socioeconomic rung lose their shit and riot, suddenly that’s political violence. > > That’s absurd. > > Timothy McVeigh alone murdered more people than all left-wing politically-motivated killers combined, in the US in the last half century. How can you miss this? > [@](#): > > Yes, there are people on the right who have committed violence, no doubt. _ **How, exactly can you miss that?** _ I posted it. You should have read it as it is in the post that you quoted. I suspect that you just stopped reading because liberals getting called out for the violence that is committed in the name of liberal ideals is too much, it doesn’t fit your world view. And yes,\* breaking shit and burning things because you are poor\* is political violence. Being poor doesn’t except one from responsibility for ones actions. A riot is a riot. Get it? Dude, there are nut jobs on all sides as I clearly stated. The nut jobs on the right tend to be lone nutjobs who blow shit up or shoot people. That isn’t acceptable. The violence from the left is collective and generally has more people involved compared to the right. So far this year: This [one](http://www.ktvu.com/news/ktvu-local-news/233120079-story). Leftist don’t like Milo. For the record I don’t like Milo either. However I do not show my displeasure by breaking things and burning shit. A reasonable number of liberals do. And this [one](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/03/05/pro-trump-rally-in-berkeley-turns-violent-as-protesters-clash-with-the-presidents-supporters/?utm_term=.28e37e22cc94). Liberals don’t like Trump. I don’t like Trump either. However I don’t show up to a Trump rally to break things and burn shit. A reasonable number of liberals do. And this [one](http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/11/09/donald-trump-president-elect-protests-oakland-bay-area/). Liberals were not happy that Trump was elected. I wasn’t either (though this election was basically a push, I dislike both candidates) Once again, a reasonable liberals decide that burning shit and breaking things is ok. And this [one](http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/inauguration-2017/anti-trump-protesters-pepper-sprayed-eve-inauguration-outside-deploraball-d-n709321). See above. I could go on. I did once, listed all the political violence from the 1960s to present using this as a source and it was quite clear that the vast majority of the violence has been from the left. Second place was sports riots. The right came in a distant third. The source for this is [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States#2010.E2.80.932019). Go through the list and honestly note which side is committing the violence. Total it up and bring back a number. Call it a home work assignment. I am willing to bet that you will be unpleasantly surprised by what you find. Slee ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/71 "2017-07-24T23:50:05Z")
Hurricane Ditka wrote: " Have you ever heard the phrase “law and order Democrats” before?" Not as a _phrase_ no. But I have heard of the people that phrase would represent. Bill Clinton, as Governor of Arkansas, signed many a death warrant. And before he became a bugaboo of the right, former AG Eric Holder was a judge whose nickname was “Hold 'em Holder” due to the severity of the sentences he’d hand down. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/72 "2017-07-25T00:10:40Z")
[300 acts of violence](http://users.nber.org/~jacobson/JacobsonRoyer6.2.10.pdf) against abortion clinics. (PDF) [Cliven Bundy and friends](http://www.gq.com/story/cliven-bundy). Alex Jones [lies about left wing violence.](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jun/16/infowars/infowars-ridiculous-claim-dems-called-violence/) [Shots fired at pizza place.](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/pizzagate-clinton-conspiracy-theory-led-dc-shooting-article-1.2899371) Based on a CT from Alex Jones. Alex Jones himself. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/73 "2017-07-25T00:30:32Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > The fuck? Eric Rudolph? Oklahoma City Bombing? Army of God? Sovereign Citizens? Anti-abortion shootings? Dylann Roof? > > The claim that riots comprise left-wing violence is rich. Unlike the rioters, which is where the claim comes from: apparently because lefties make economic equality a centerpiece of politics, when people on the bottom socioeconomic rung lose their shit and riot, suddenly that’s political violence. > > That’s absurd. > > Timothy McVeigh alone murdered more people than all left-wing politically-motivated killers combined, in the US in the last half century. I wanted to add self-styled patriots Jerad and Amanda Miller - who, as part of their spree - murdered a cop, wrapped the body in the Gadsden Flag with a note that said “this is the beginning of the revolution”. > **[2014 Las Vegas shootings](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Las_Vegas_shootings)** > > The 2014 Las Vegas shootings occurred on June 8, 2014, when a married couple, Jerad and Amanda Miller, committed a shooting in northeastern Las Vegas, Nevada. Five people died, including the two shooters. The couple, who espoused extreme anti-government views, first killed two Las Vegas police officers at a restaurant before fleeing into a Walmart, where they killed an intervening armed civilian named Joseph Wilcox. The couple died after engaging responding officers in a shootout in Walmart; po... ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/74 "2017-07-25T00:33:05Z")
The OP appears puzzled that _Breaking News from the Antifa News Desk_ doesn’t have as much pull as a “hey, look over there!” topic as it does among the Freepers, Townhallies and Brietbartians, which is somewhat understandable, but mostly obvious. I had never heard of the movement or Ms. Felarca before the first of his anthological posts on the subject, so I do appreciate having my lib-bubble burst a little, however tiny the prick. They sound like assholes, and as I’ve said before somewhere between zero and one times, few things would give me greater pleasure than seeing a young Mike Tyson using a Black Bloc trustafarian’s nutsack as a speed bag— so if you gotta have an obsession, this is as good as any. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/75 "2017-07-25T02:43:02Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I can’t tell if this is serious. Conservatives and liberals do have different priorities, according to research. They’ve been defined by some researchers as ‘‘binding’’ vs. ‘‘individualizing’’ values and are the reason conservatives are more likely to [blame the victim of an assault.](https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/10/the-psychology-of-victim-blaming/502661/) > > So yes, by and large, conservatives value law and order more than liberals. Liberals would be more interested in individual identity and justice for the wronged and that sort of thing. Justice for the wronged _is_ law and order. Blaming the victim is not law and order at all. It’s the exact opposite–making the victim out to be the bad guy. So, if conservatives do it more, that means they do not value law and order. There are five pillars of morality, and liberals have two of them: care (harm reduction) and fairness. Some also have pureness/sanctity. Conservatives have that plus two additional values: loyalty and authority. How is agreeing with conservatives that liberals don’t care about justice, and thus are lawless heathens, supposed to be helpful? I mean, come on. We are called “social justice warriors” because we care so much about social justice–aka justice, aka law and order. I refuse any interpretation that justice is authoritarian based. Law and order just means justice using the law. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/76 "2017-07-25T02:49:11Z")
Sure. Where was Conservative ‘Law and Order’ when armed men were at the Bundy ranch and one of them was pointing a rifle at Federal agents from a sniper position? Where was Conservative ‘Law and Order’ when armed men occupied a nature reserve? Please don’t tell us that Conservatives value law and order and Liberals don’t. This is a self-serving fallacy. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/77 "2017-07-25T03:18:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **sleestak** : > > How can you miss this? > > > [@](#): > > > > Yes, there are people on the right who have committed violence, no doubt. > > How, exactly can you miss that? I posted it. You should have read it as it is in the post that you quoted. I suspect that you just stopped reading because liberals getting called out for the violence that is committed in the name of liberal ideals is too much, it doesn’t fit your world view. Yes, there are some birds that fly. But lately, most of the flying vertebrates have been bats. And don’t even go pointing to examples and saying that I’m wrong, because I admitted right up front there that there are some flying birds. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/78 "2017-07-25T04:34:16Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Hurricane Ditka wrote: " Have you ever heard the phrase “law and order Democrats” before?" Not as a _phrase_ no. But I have heard of the people that phrase would represent. Bill Clinton, as Governor of Arkansas, signed many a death warrant. And before he became a bugaboo of the right, former AG Eric Holder was a judge whose nickname was “Hold 'em Holder” due to the severity of the sentences he’d hand down. I haven’t heard the phrase either. In my post, I said I believed law and order was “a more common emphasis among conservatives”. Do you think I’m off-base with that assessment? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/79 "2017-07-25T04:36:51Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > The OP appears puzzled that _Breaking News from the Antifa News Desk_ doesn’t have as much pull as a “hey, look over there!” topic as it does among the Freepers, Townhallies and Brietbartians, which is somewhat understandable, but mostly obvious. I didn’t _feel_ “puzzled” when I wrote the OP. What words did I use that gave you the impression I was “puzzled”? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763/80 "2017-07-25T04:39:39Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Please don’t tell us that Conservatives value law and order and Liberals don’t. This is a self-serving fallacy. Did I tell you “liberals don’t”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yvette-felarca-of-bamn-antifa-fame-arrested-for-assault/791763.md?page=5)