# Zabali\_Clawbane - you make my brain bleed. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 19, 2004, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047 "2004-05-19T22:14:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/41 "2004-05-21T18:08:17Z")
> [@gum](#): > > Originally posted by **Cisco** Because, ya nerveless nincompoop, the rules say: “This message board is intended as a medium for public discussion.” > > Not a medium for a pile-on. We’re publically discussing Zabali. Don’t read it if you don’t like it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/42 "2004-05-21T18:20:37Z")
Actually, this thread has been remarkably civil, for a Pitting of a Doper. It hasn’t deteriorated to a pile-on. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/43 "2004-05-21T18:31:26Z")
> [@gum](#): > > Originally posted by **Cisco** Because, ya nerveless nincompoop, the rules say: “This message board is intended as a medium for public discussion.” > > Not a medium for a pile-on. Does this ring a bell? > [@](#): > > If you gotta flame, do it here. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/44 "2004-05-21T18:36:52Z")
hehehehe 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/45 "2004-05-21T18:42:23Z")
**gum** , with all due respect, I don’t think I’ve been especially vitrolic towards **Zabali** nor have I encouraged a pile-on. And the Pit \* is\* the appropriate venue for expressing any grievances that one may have with another poster. When **catsix** was pitted,she explained herself so well that I, for one, liked her quite a bit more when all was said and done. **Zabali** has never appeared hesitant about launching threads pitting other posters-witness her recent diatribe directed towards **Astro**. I wonder why you consider her off-limits as it were. Or are you opposed to pittings as a matter of principal? In which case, why haven’t I noticed you riding to the rescue of other posters? ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/46 "2004-05-21T19:18:26Z")
No, **jlzania** , I’m not opposed to pitting a jerk. [though I _do_ dislike pile-ons] **Zabali\_Clawbane** is not a jerk, imho. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/47 "2004-05-21T19:28:54Z")
> [@gum](#): > > No, **jlzania** , I’m not opposed to pitting a jerk. [though I _do_ dislike pile-ons] **Zabali\_Clawbane** is not a jerk, imho. I think in a lot of our opinions (or mine, at least :)), she is. And you know she has been known pit other dopers herself, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/48 "2004-05-21T19:39:05Z")
And I’m not exactly sure what **zabali** is, **gum** , but in my considered opinion she’s acted in a very jerkish manner on a number of occasions or I wouldn’t have even started this thread. You,of course,may consider her endowed with the compassion of of Mother Theresa, the wisdom of Socrates and the humor of Dorothy Parker. [sub](Which would lead me to seriously question _you_ but that’s my perogative 😃 )[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Satyricon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f05b48/32.png) [@Satyricon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satyricon)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/49 "2004-05-21T19:57:56Z")
I’ve kinda been lurking through this thread today, watching the progression of events. I’ve never talked to **Zabali,** and therefore have no beef with her. I **do** think it’s strange though, that she hasn’t shown up to at least say _something._ ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/50 "2004-05-21T20:03:11Z")
I absolutely adore Dorothy Parker. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2004, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/51 "2004-05-21T20:55:46Z")
> [@](#): > > **gum** - I absolutely adore Dorothy Parker. Then we can least agree on _something_. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2004, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/52 "2004-05-22T12:44:41Z")
> [@Satyricon](#): > > I **do** think it’s strange though, that she hasn’t shown up to at least say _something._ I think it’s a little unfair that people have been making such a big deal about this. How often do people’s responses to their own Pittings make them look good? It’s not unheard of, but it’s not that common either. If **Zabali** is staying away because she doesn’t think she’d be able to explain or defend herself well, she’s wiser than most people who’ve been Pitted. But I haven’t noticed **Zabali** posting anywhere around here recently, so I see no reason to assume that she’s intentionally avoiding this thread. There may be something keeping her away from the SDMB right now. Perhaps she’s not even aware that she’s been Pitted at all. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2004, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/53 "2004-05-23T11:24:46Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > But I haven’t noticed **Zabali** posting anywhere around here recently, so I see no reason to assume that she’s intentionally avoiding this thread. There may be something keeping her away from the SDMB right now. Perhaps she’s not even aware that she’s been Pitted at all. Her last post was an hour and fifteen minutes after this thread was started. I suspect what happened was that she saw this thread and her arthritis started flaring up somethin’ fierce. She walked outside to get in her car and go to the doctor but the starting line-up of the 1987 Denver Broncos were all on her front lawn, exposing themselves of course. She screamed and turned to run inside but her trick-knee started jiggling and she fell down. After many long hours of counseling from her live-in psychiatrist she was finally coaxed into standing up, but her hammertoe locked up and she fell down again, after which she promptly diagnosed herself with being in a deep coma. I’m sure she’ll be back any day now to explain how our vicious attacks on her have convinced her that the only _proper_ way to live these days is in a bubble. With no access to the outside world. Including the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2004, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/54 "2004-05-23T11:50:23Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Her last post was an hour and fifteen minutes after this thread was started. I’d be inclined to take that more as evidence that she _hasn’t_ seen the thread than that she has, although it would depend on how long it took her to make her last posts and what order she reads the forums in. Personally, I usually browse through the forums first and then go back and write any replies I feel like making. I often don’t check again for new threads before I log out. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2004, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/55 "2004-05-23T12:39:17Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > I’d be inclined to take that more as evidence that she _hasn’t_ seen the thread than that she has [Wrong](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=257722) ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2004, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/56 "2004-05-23T13:54:21Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > [Wrong](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=257722) Ah, then my first theory was right: she decided that silence was a better response than anything she could write in reply, and took a break. Good for her. Plenty of people have done far worse when Pitted. I’m in agreement with some of the criticisms people have made of **Zabali** here and I’ve even participated in a Pit thread about her before, but I don’t see faulting her for trying to maintain some class, dignity, and perspective instead of having the meltdown some of you seemed to have been hoping for. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2004, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/57 "2004-05-23T17:40:28Z")
I read that linked thread, and I wouldn’t say it’s a matter of her showing class, dignity and perspective, **Lamia**. I’d say it’s a matter of her SOP. Now, if she had mentioned in that post that she saw the thread and was taking some of the things mentioned to heart, that would be showing class, dignity and perspective. All she did in that thread was continue to refuse to take any responsibility for her actions and put villify everyone who disagrees with her or isn’t rushing to pat her on the head and tell her what a strong _survivor_ she is. It’s cowardice and nothing more. I do hope she gets enough guts to really take a long hard look at herself in the mirror one of these days, though. I really think it would do her some good. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2004, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/58 "2004-05-24T05:27:54Z")
> [@lezlers](#): > > I read that linked thread, and I wouldn’t say it’s a matter of her showing class, dignity and perspective, **Lamia**. I’d say it’s a matter of her SOP. > > Now, if she had mentioned in that post that she saw the thread and was taking some of the things mentioned to heart, that would be showing class, dignity and perspective. > > All she did in that thread was continue to refuse to take any responsibility for her actions and put villify everyone who disagrees with her or isn’t rushing to pat her on the head and tell her what a strong _survivor_ she is. > > It’s cowardice and nothing more. > > I do hope she gets enough guts to really take a long hard look at herself in the mirror one of these days, though. I really think it would do her some good. Bingo. She did take the bait and respond to her Pit thread, only she did so in a new thread, and in MPSIMS where she couldn’t be responded to in turn. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2004, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/59 "2004-05-24T08:21:52Z")
> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#): > > Bingo. She did take the bait and respond to her Pit thread, only she did so in a new thread, and in MPSIMS where she couldn’t be responded to in turn. Why couldn’t she be responded to in MPSIMS? The thread isn’t locked or anything. The only thing you can’t do in MPSIMS that you could do in this thread is flame her. If no one has anything to say to her that isn’t a flame, no wonder she didn’t want to post in the Pit. We have the right to Pit each other here, but I don’t think people are obligated to participate in their own Pittings. **Zabali** obviously didn’t want to get into it. Instead of replying to the thread she took a break from the boards, the very advice often given to posters whose behavior or attitude seems strange. I don’t know why everyone wasn’t happy to let it go at that. ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2004, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047/60 "2004-05-24T15:21:54Z")
I now officially declare this an exercise in futility. :smack: **Zabali** obviously feels that she is completely within her rights to pit the dopers that she disagrees with and lecture them in other forums without being held accountable for her behavior. Any criticism of her behavior = bait. I could understand her refusing to respond to me if I had directed a string of profanities at her or accused her of bizarre sexual practices or been anything other than civil. I mean really, just _how_ does one answer the charge of being a goat-felcher or a motherfucker? Does a note from your local goat herder or momma saying you’ve never been that kind of girl suffice? I’m also not quite sure why she mentioned her daily therapy and medications in what I must assume is her reply to this thread but I guess that she feels that her problems grant her some sort of special dispensation when participating on these boards. I don’t agree but as **Zabali** is doing her famous ducking and running act, there’s really no point in continuing, is there boys and girls [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zabali_clawbane-you-make-my-brain-bleed/246047.md?page=2)