Zack Snyder's Army Of The Dead (Spoilers, if you like)

Well, that part of the mission was supposed to be a secret, and presumably he wasn’t willing to risk the others balking at the plan to retrieve an Alpha Zombie head and use it in WMZ research. But, apparently, he just got really lucky that Zombie Queen randomly decided to show up at that point, or his whole mission would have been a bust. In a 2:30 movie, it still seemed like there were a couple of bridging scenes missing, like maybe something with Coyote knowing how to “summon” the Zombie Queen or some other explanation for why Predictably Evil Corporate Guy seemed to assume ZQ would show up when he volunteered to “secure the perimeter.”

Well, that part at least seems reasonable. It’s not like they had a notarized legal agreement. And Coyote said way back when they first entered Lost Vegas that the Alpha Zombies didn’t mind them poking around the edges of the zone, but it’s not their prison, it’s their kingdom, and she made a big deal about not “flaunting” their trespass by using the streets. It also seemed like she had never penetrated that far into Lost Vegas before. Queen Zombie may have felt like the humans had overstepped the implicit agreement. And it’s not clear to me she was attacking in earnest, anyway. She might just have been engaging in a threat display, letting the humans know they were wearing out their welcome, and needed to leave or make another sacrifice to buy more time.

Eh, I enjoyed it. I had a good beer buzz going at the time.

Found myself laughing a few times. Not sure if that was intentional or not. Not as funny as Zombieland obviously.

Yeah, they were in the same place as before and ZQ was looking at the sacrifice spot-I guess they needed another installment on the plan. I wonder how Coyote discovered they took sacrifices…

That covered a lot. Who did he remind me of in the way he was speaking?

I agree that it was pretty dull. An excellent example of no line being worth a scene and no scene being worth a movie. As far as I can tell, Snyder had some storyboards for some (admittedly) really cool scenes rattling around in his head and decided to concoct a weird mostly unworkable genre mashup to contain them, but it was all pretty dumb and slow apart from those few cool scenes.

The biggest miss is that heist films are about being clever. This was the dumbest heist plan ever, and the eventual reveal that the heist was just a cover for something else just makes me think all these characters are stupid. The plan is we’re going to carry six pallets of money up to the roof and then fly it and 10 people out on a helicopter that looks like it seats maybe 6 people, using the 20 gallons of fuel we carried in on our backs.

I got bored in the middle and skipped some of it, so I do have one question to ask:

Just before they break into the vault, they find a set of corpses from a previous mission, and there are flashback shots showing that the key around one corpse’s neck is the same key that one of our heroes wears, and another is wearing Tig Notaro’s shirt, etc. and one of the guys starts talking about how they’re in a loop, pointlessly repeating this zombie incursion over and over. WTF was this scene in the movie? Was there any resolution to his fever dream?

You watched the whole thing and you’re still not sure they were stupid? Not much of a brag to say this, I knew they were stupid as soon as they decided to join in.

I didn’t watch the whole thing, but fair point. They were obviously dumb for many other reasons. But why would you make a heist film about a bunch of morons?!

That is the real mystery the movie leaves us with. And yet I don’t think it will be long before we see the sequel where another bunch of morons tries to pull of a heist in Mexico City.

They also find, in the main room of the casino, identical blueprints to the ones they’re carrying, and take that as an indication that they’re not the first team that was sent in.

I took the scene where the character was talking about the endless loop was just him messing with the other characters, and the writer messing with audience expectations. Other than that…absolutely nothing came of that bit. Not even any other indications that another team had been sent in or any payoff from that. Also, no explanation why that team was skeletonized.

Worse than that. They also have to fuel the generators that provide power to the entire casino with what they’re carrying. So it’s like 10 gallons of fuel to power an entire casino for a couple of hours, and 10 gallons of fuel to fly around Lost Vegas, start to leave, come back, and then fly out. So, apparently the Military-Casino Complex has developed really energy dense avgas…

What a ridiculous thing to leave in a final cut. It almost worked. I watched another 20 minutes after that thinking the movie was about to become interesting in some weird way.

Not only that, but the cover plan (grab a head from one of the “smart” zombies.) was also the dumbest plan ever, and could have been accomplished within the first 2 minutes of travel past the wall. But somehow (because he read the script, apparently), security guy needs to go to the middle of the zombie-infested city first.

Yeah, count me in as someone that would have rather watched whatever might have become of that movie.

The weird thing is that the Dawn of the Dead remake was pretty good. Zack Snyder knows how to make a good zombie movie, or at least he did 15 years ago.

I’m not sure how much the success of Dawn of the Dead (2004) can really be attributed to the screenplay by James Gunn

Did we ever definitively find out what happened to Geeta? I know she was in the co-pilot’s seat in the helicopter, but I didn’t really see her after that. I’m assuming she died, but the daughter chick didn’t even seem to look for her (after risking her life and the entire mission by going off to find her in the first place).

One of the few things that make sense in this movie is the daughter being overwhelmed after having to shoot her father in the head. Plus I think they left the fate of the pilot open for a sequel.

That was something I was wondering myself. I think she may have fallen out of the copter during the struggle with Zombie Alpha Prime. I know Hero’s Daughter definitely screamed “Geeta!” at one point during the struggle, I don’t recall seeing her in the copter as it was leaving Lost Vegas, and as you note, HD didn’t even look for her after the crash.

I actually went back to look when the movie ended (no need to thank me for that sacrifice; I’m heroic that way).

She was still sitting in the co-pilot’s seat when the pilot saw the nuke flying overhead; there was a brief shot of Geeta’s reaction as well. After that, we never see her again, and Hero’s Daughter doesn’t even appear to look for her.

This would have been so much better if it had been part of the Z-Nation franchise - it had all of the right elements, sans “zack”.