# Zell Miller Speaks From the Heart

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**Created:** [September 2, 2004, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700 "2004-09-02T02:20:42Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700/41 "2004-09-02T05:26:54Z")

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> [@Dio2112](#):
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> …Kinda makes you think the democrats are a bunch of pussies. Hmm.

Well, you know what they say. You are what you eat.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700/42 "2004-09-02T06:17:44Z")

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Is there a debate here, or just another trainwreck thread about the RNC?

I missed Zell’s speech. Are there points of contention, or is this just either an “I like Zell” or “I hate Zell” poll?

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700/43 "2004-09-02T07:31:05Z")

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OK, I’ll start one before bed.

> [@Zell Miller](#):
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> Senator Kerry has made it clear that he would use military force only if approved by the United Nations.

Kerry made a statement along these lines to the Harvard Crimson when he was 26 years old, in February 1970. He has since retracted this statement forcefully and repeatedly. Is it fair to use statements 36 years old as fair representations of a candidate’s beliefs?

And a few breaths later, he has the gall to say

> [@Zell Miller](#):
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> John Kerry wants to refight yesterday’s war.

He listed a whole litany of weapons systems that Kerry was against, [blatantly misrepresentating](http://www.slate.com/id/2096127) Kerry’s voting records.

This is the line of argument that particularly irked me was this one:

> [@Zell Miller](#):
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> Today, at the same time young Americans are dying in the sands of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because of the Democrats’ manic obsession to bring down our commander in chief.  
> …  
> Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today’s Democratic leaders see America as an occupier, not a liberator.  
> …  
> No one should dare to even think about being the commander in chief of this country if he doesn’t believe with all his heart that our soldiers are liberators abroad and defenders of freedom at home.
> 
> But don’t waste your breath telling that to the leaders of my party today. In their warped way of thinking, America is the problem, not the solution. They don’t believe there is any real danger in the world except that which America brings upon itself through our clumsy and misguided foreign policy.

His next line backs away from his implication of treason:

> [@Zell Miller](#):
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> It is not their patriotism, it is their judgment that has been so sorely lacking.

But he has just spent the past 3 minutes accusing them of political manuevering at the expense of the strength of the country. How that is not questioning their patriotism, I don’t know. Besides the obvious false strawman (that Democrats believe that America is always the problem – show me a single quote where Kerry or any Democratic leader has so much as implied that), he has gone nuclear at the first breath and further riven the perceived wound afflicting America. His example of Wendall Wilkie was used to imply that Democrats should just roll over for the Republicans (as Wilkie supposedly did for FDR but I doubt the real life circumstances were as cut and dry as presented). Their legitimate beef is now a “manic obsession” emblematic of their “warped way of thinking,” which is of course presented as the primary thing tearing our country apart. Never mind the politics of fear, the capitalization of a polarized public, and the distortions repeated until they are accepted as fact. Yes, both sides do this. But one side has made it an _idee fixee_. Sadly, it is working too well for them to stop.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700/44 "2004-09-02T10:15:34Z")

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> [@edwino](#):
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> His example of Wendall Wilkie was used to imply that Democrats should just roll over for the Republicans (as Wilkie supposedly did for FDR but I doubt the real life circumstances were as cut and dry as presented).

Actually, this was pretty accurate.

Wendell Willkie ran in 1940 on domestic matters only, attacking the New Deal as inefficient and wasteful. But he supported fully Roosevelt’s foreign policies.

Roosevelt, incidentally, had a great deal of respect for Willkie, and after the election appointed him his special representative. Willkie toured England and the Far East during the war.

After this tour, he published the book _One World_, which was a runaway bestseller. This book was the birth, essentially, of Republican internationalism and helped sell the idea of the United Nations to the American public.

Willkie, sadly, died in 1944.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700/45 "2004-09-02T10:45:46Z")

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> [@edwino](#):
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> OK, I’ll start one before bed.
> 
> Kerry made a statement along these lines to the Harvard Crimson when he was 26 years old, in February 1970. He has since retracted this statement forcefully and repeatedly. Is it fair to use statements 36 years old as fair representations of a candidate’s beliefs?

Well, after all, it would almost be based on the same time frame as the cornerstone of his entire campaign.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700/46 "2004-09-02T12:22:57Z")

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The more I think about it, the more I think this draws a line in the sand. Miller’s speech was one of the most vile, dishonest attacks.

I’m not alone in thinking this, even among conservatives. [http://andrewsullivan.com/](http://andrewsullivan.com/)

> [@](#):
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> Appealing to the crudest form of patriotism and the easiest smears is wrong when it is performed by the lying Michael Moore and it is wrong when it is spat out by Zell Miller. Last night was therefore a revealing night for me. I watched a Democrat at a GOP Convention convince me that I could never be a Republican.

This is a southern segregationist who is bitter that his party abandonded him on that issue. The fact that people are actually praising his bile, that’s what draws the line. Pale beyond the pale.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700/47 "2004-09-02T13:37:49Z")

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Zell Miller blows with the prevailing political winds. When segregation was the thing, he was a segregationist. When liberalism was cool he was a liberal. When moderation was cool, he was a moderate. And now, Zell has taken note of the Republican majorities in Congress, and his speech last night is the result.

By way of contrast, [Here’s the text of Miller’s keynote speech at the 1992 Democratic convention](http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/docs/speeches/demo-conv/zellmiller.txt).

Some highlights:

> [@](#):
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> I know what Dan Quayle means when he says it’s best for children to have two parents.  
> You bet it is!  
> And it would be nice for them to have trust funds, too.  
> But we can’t all be born rich, handsome and lucky … and that’s why we have a Democratic Party.
> 
> …
> 
> I am a Democrat because we are the party of hope.  
> For 12 dark years the Republicans have dealt in cynicism and skepticism. They’ve mastered the art of division and diversion, and they have robbed us of our hope.  
> Too many mothers today cannot tell their children what my mother told me - that working hard and playing by the rules can make your dreams come true.  
> For millions, the American dream has become what the poet called ‘‘a dream deferred.’’  
> And if you recall those words, he warned us that a dream deferred can explode.  
> Robbed of hope, the voices of anger rise up, rise up from working Americans, who are tired of paying more in taxes and getting less in services.  
> And George Bush doesn’t get it?  
> Americans cannot understand why the rich can buy the best health care in the world, but all the rest of us get is rising costs and cuts in coverage, or no health insurance at all.  
> And George Bush doesn’t get it?
> 
> …
> 
> Americans have seen plants closed down, jobs shipped overseas and our hopes fade away as our economic position collapses right before our very eyes.  
> And George Bush does not get it!

One thing we know is that Zell Miller is a liar. He was either lying when he said he believed in the ideals of the Democratic Party, or he’s lying now.

> [@Apos](#):
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> This is a southern segregationist who is bitter that his party abandonded him on that issue.

While Zell is a traitor in my book, I don’t think yours is a fair assessment.

Zell was a segregationist when that’s what it took to get elected back in the 60s. In the 70s and 80s he was a liberal-to-moderate, and as Governor he was noted for his many, many appointments of liberal black judges to the Georgia bench.

Mostly, Zell is a finger-in-the-wind politician. He was nicknamed Zig Zag Zell way back when he was Lieutenant Governor (after his swith from segregationist to liberal).

**As for the OP:**

What is Zell’s motivation? I have a theory on that. I think Zell wants his statue on the lawn of the Georgia capitol building along with other notable governors of Georgia. Since Georgia’s legislature is in the process of turning Republican, Miller knew that “Democratic Zell” wasn’t about to be immortalized in bronze. And so he has become “pseudo-Republican Zell.” I will revive this thread in a couple of years when the statue is commissioned by Georgia’s then-Republican legislature.

I should also mention that Zell has never been one to resist more pecuniary rewards. When he ran for Governor, it came out that Georgia Power had been providing him with a sweetheart lease on a lakefront home, and he had to give it up. Draw you own conclusions.

> [@cheddarsnax](#):
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> Zell Miller’s post-speech appearance on Hardball was an unmitigated disaster for Zell and the Republican Party. Miller went completely unhinged; select quotes:  
> “I’m not gonna take this!”  
> “I wanna get in your face!”  
> “I think we oughta cancel this interview!”  
> “You’re hopeless.”  
> “Get outta my face!”  
> “I wish we lived in the day where you could challenge a person to a duel!”

That’s interesting. Zell also recently raised the idea of duelling certain members of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s editorial staff. Maybe he is coming unhinged.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700/48 "2004-09-02T14:11:24Z")

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“Compassionate conservatism?”

I’m thinking more along the lines of “mean-spirited fascism.”

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700/49 "2004-09-02T14:26:21Z")

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Did anyone else see Zell on CNN after the convention? It wasn’t nearly as crazy as the interview cheddarsnax saw, but it was just surreal. Almost like he was channelling Ross Perot. Very combative, very off-your-rocker, very beligerent, etc. When confronted with the fact that Cheney opposed a number of the defense cuts (while in the Defense Department) that he chastized Kerry for voting against, he looked like someone had just killed his puppy.

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I regained some of my respect for McCain last night when he voiced disagreement with Zell’s speech in a interview. I think all this partisan mudslinging sincerely bothers McCain, and it makes him uncomfortable when things like Kerry’s patriotism are questioned. As it should, since they are friends. I wonder what his breaking point will be.

The tone of this convention has progressively become more angry and negative. The smiling optimism of Guiliani and Arnold is in sharp contrast to the dour tone of Cheney and the spit-flying visciousness of Miller. There was booing everytime Kerry or Edward were mentioned. It was less like a pep rally for the president than it was a lynch mob rally. I could almost hear the drums beating.

But one thing struck me: almost every time the camera flashed on the audience, I spied at least one or two people just sitting there, not even clapping when everyone else was whooping and hollering. Are these people just stoic, or were they not responsive because they disagree with the message or tone? I don’t remember seeing the same number of zombies at the DNC, but perhaps I just wasn’t paying enough attention.

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Did anyone else see Zell on CNN after the convention? It wasn’t nearly as crazy as the interview cheddarsnax saw, but it was just surreal. Almost like he was channelling Ross Perot. Very combative, very off-your-rocker, very beligerent, etc. When confronted with the fact that Cheney opposed a number of the defense cuts (while in the Defense Department) that he chastized Kerry for voting against, he looked like someone had just killed his puppy.

hehe I was wondering if I was the only one that saw it… he got all mixed up.

You should have seen how Zell Miller got all thumbs when CNN’s Blitzer asked him about Cheney voting against the same bills as Kerry. Also about Bush using the word “occupiers”. Zell simply stuttered and babbled on.

Bush reffered to Americans as occupiers several times. Correctly so. He even said that he understood that Iraqis didn’t like being occupied and that americans wouldn’t like it either.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700/52 "2004-09-02T14:38:58Z")

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Count me in as another who agrees with Andrew Sullivan. In particular:

> [@Andrew Sullivan](#):
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> Remember who this man is: once a proud supporter of racial segregation, a man who lambasted LBJ for selling his soul to the negroes. His speech tonight was in this vein, a classic Dixiecrat speech, jammed with bald lies, straw men, and hateful rhetoric. As an immigrant to this country and as someone who has been to many Southern states and enjoyed astonishing hospitality and warmth and sophistication, I long dismissed some of the Northern stereotypes about the South. But Miller did his best to revive them. The man’s speech was not merely crude; it added whole universes to the word crude. . . .
> 
> Last night was therefore a revealing night for me. I watched a Democrat convince me that I could never be a Republican. If they wheel out lying, angry bigots like this as their keynote, I’ll take Obama. Any day.

No doubt!

Zell and Dick personify why I left the Republican Party about a decade ago. I could not stand that hateful, blatantly disingenuous, supercilious stance that more and more powerful Republicans were using. The ruthlessly partisan, sanctimonious spirit of Newt Gingrich is alive and well. I know that not all Republicans are not like this. I sincerely hope, for their party’s sake, they wake up and kick those assholes out who are causing their party–and in turn the country–such grievous harm.

In the long run, nasty, mendacious people like Zell and Dick aren’t doing the GOP the least good. It may turn out that “grievous harm” is an understatement! No, I don’t expect politics to be nice and respectful all the time. But these guys have truly taken it to a new level. The worst of it is that this nastiness is born out in their policies! It’s not just a public persona to rile the troops, in other words. Therein lies the harm to the country.

Would that the GOP in any way resembled the party described by Arnold! “Compassionate conservatism” has never been more of a joke.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700/53 "2004-09-02T14:47:48Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> Is there a debate here, or just another trainwreck thread about the RNC?
> 
> I missed Zell’s speech. Are there points of contention, or is this just either an “I like Zell” or “I hate Zell” poll?

Actually, neither.

> [@](#):
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> The next moment a hideous , grinding screech, as of some monstrous machine running without oil, burst from the telescreen at the end of the room. It was a noise that set one’s teeth on edge and bristled the hair at the back of one’s neck. The [Hate](http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/1/) had begun.

Regards,  
Shodan

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In case others haven’t seen it, Zell on Hardball with Chris Matthews was a classic. Zell challenged Matthews to a duel because Matthews argued that Republicans saying that Kerry opposes our troops is the ethical equivalent of Democrats saying that Republicans want to let children starve and kill old people.

Video link at the top of [this](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5445086/) page.

I’m starting to think that Zell has more mental problems than McCain, and I have long thought that McCain isn’t too far from the edge.

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**Shodan** , I like [this excerpt](http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/1/) better.

> [@](#):
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> Goldstein was delivering his usual venomous attack upon the doctrines of the Party – an attack so exaggerated and perverse that a child should have been able to see through it, and yet just plausible enough to fill one with an alarmed feeling that other people, less level-headed than oneself, might be taken in by it.

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> [@Shodan](#):
>
> Actually, neither.  
> Regards,  
> Shodan

You must be joking to evoke Orwell on behalf of Zell. The reaction of the **Republicans** to **Michael Moore** during McCains’ speech was the “Two Minutes Hate” right out of “1984” and _Moore_ was their very own Emmanuel Goldstein:

“The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but, on the contrary, that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretence was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge-hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one’s will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic.”

To get that kind of reaction all a person has to do is mention Bill Clinton! Hillary Clinton! Michael Moore! to foamy right-wingers. It’d be funny if it weren’t so pathetic and scary.

Livin’ in a Gaslight world…

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700/57 "2004-09-02T16:50:43Z")

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From [TNR](http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=express&s=mccarter090204):

> [@](#):
>
> ohn Kerry is a spineless Massachusetts liberal. As president, he would raise taxes on farms, families, puppies, and rainbows. He wants to send our boys into combat barefoot, with sticks. Also he puts razors in Halloween candy. John Kerry wets the bed.
> 
> This is the general impression left by Wednesday’s program at the Republican Convention. Until now, the convention has kept up a mask of jolly inclusiveness. Even the first part of last night’s program, “A Land of Opportunity,” stuck mostly to the banal pageantry that made Tuesday such a bore: small business extolled, minorities carefully deployed, etc. But the mask would have to drop sooner or later, and last night down it came–revealing the face of the emperor from _Return of the Jedi_.
> 
> Zell Miller might not be the most disgraceful politician in America, but last night he delivered the most disgraceful piece of political rhetoric in years. Introduced as “the conscience of the Democratic Party,” the former segregationist unleashed half an hour of breathtaking, conscience-free smears. (Miller’s party-bashing is the political equivalent of a man-bites-dog story; by making him the keynote speaker, the convention turned itself into a kind of long-form tabloid.) He could have broken from his party over first principles, more in sorrow than in anger. Instead he stuck with lies, like saying Kerry has vowed to use force only with U.N. approval, and distortions, like treating the loony left as the mainstream Democratic position. This is the kind of intellectual dishonesty that led John McCain to call out Michael Moore three nights ago.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700/58 "2004-09-02T17:10:01Z")

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> [@](#):
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> And [Willkie] made it clear that he would rather lose the election than make national security a partisan campaign issue.
> 
> \<snip\>
> 
> Where are such statesmen today?
> 
> Where is the bi-partisanship in this country when we need it most?
> 
> Now, while young Americans are dying in the sands of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because of the Democrat’s manic obsession to bring down our Commander-in- Chief.

Like the vicious partisan smear campaign unleashed by Max Cleland in 2002 against George Bush and Saxby Chambliss. :rolleyes:

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Was laid up last night with a very sore inflammation and, finding myself in no mood to watch the Pubs’ nightly round of b.s., sprawled out on the bed and put on a Hollies cd (how’s that for a tree-huggin’ liberal remedy!). Before I drifted off, though, I decided to flip on NPR and see what was going on at the freak show, and caught what must have been the apex of Miller’s tirade. Within maybe eight seconds it became more than apparent to me that this was the (almost) quaintly incoherent ranting of a sublimely bitter, spiritually exhausted old man.

His interview with Chris Matthews, which Ravenman already mentioned, more than confirmed this impression, even as it threw ‘dangerously paranoid’ and ‘frighteningly clueless’ into the mix. (Note: It _was_ entertaining to see Matthews reduced to nervous laughter by threats of bodily harm.) I think that the faith Karl Rove’s Slime Machine may have in Zell Miller as some kind of campaign trump card would be adorable if it weren’t so brain numbingly sad.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2004, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zell-miller-speaks-from-the-heart/262700/60 "2004-09-02T17:57:13Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
>
> You must be joking to evoke Orwell on behalf of Zell.

I wasn’t talking about Miller. I was talking about the Usual Suspects on the SDMB.

Seriously. Every fucking speech during the Democratic convention wasn’t met with this kind of venting. The conservatives and moderates on the SDMB didn’t feel the need to Pit everyone who ever appeared on camera on behalf of Kerry. Who attacked Ron Reagan Jr. hereabouts when he spoke?

And yet it seems to be “My golly! Someone, somewhere has said something positive about Bush! I need to regurgitate three paragraphs of hatred to re-calibrate the Bile Balance of the universe!”

_snicker_

I smell fear.

Not that I blame you. I think he’s gonna win, too.

Regards,  
Shodan

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