# Zhen'ka

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 13, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829 "2009-07-13T04:19:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/1 "2009-07-13T04:19:08Z")

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Your comment [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11333283#post11333283) is a blatant insult to me, out of nowhere.

I have known **Lib** for years. He has been kind to me, out of friendship. I will stand up for him, also out of friendship.

I do not know you from Adam. After that introduction, I sincerely hope it remains that way.

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**Author:** ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/2 "2009-07-13T04:57:49Z")

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How is a post in reply to someone else an insult to you?

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/3 "2009-07-13T05:15:21Z")

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> [@IAmNotSpartacus](#):
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> How is a post in reply to someone else an insult to you?

I think it’s actually the post a little below where Zhen’ka says that the only reason Polycarp says good thinks about Liberal is because he pays him. That is certainly an insult in my book.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/4 "2009-07-13T05:15:42Z")

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I think it is down a few:

> [@](#):
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> Please…you vouch for him because he pays you.
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> Oh, and someone should really alert the Cherokee…all they need is Polycarp’s purchased word to vouch for tribal members. Think of all the money they’d save with, like, rolls and record keeping and, you know, a whole Enrollment office.

Why exactly do people _care_ so much about whether or **Lib** is of Cherokee descent or not, or even if he confabulates or at least inflates here and there? I honestly do not get it. Mildly annoyed I can see, but the passion these haters have is incomprehensible.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/5 "2009-07-13T05:16:23Z")

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I’m going to guess that **Polycarp** meant to link to [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11333283#post11333283) a few posts down.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/6 "2009-07-13T05:19:09Z")

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That’s correct – and both **Colibri** ’s and my links claim to be pointing to post #27 but when clicked on display a post slightly earlier in the thread.

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**Author:** ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/7 "2009-07-13T05:33:21Z")

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OK, carry on.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/8 "2009-07-13T05:40:19Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> That’s correct – and both **Colibri** ’s and my links claim to be pointing to post #27 but when clicked on display a post slightly earlier in the thread.

Not sure how that happened. I edited my post just above so it now links to the correct post.

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**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/9 "2009-07-13T06:09:37Z")

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Now that’s really uncalled for, from anywhere else but the Pit (even in the Pit, saying that is worse than calling someone a liar). I guess the pittee deserves this holy smite.

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/10 "2009-07-13T06:14:31Z")

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And for crying out loud … saying that about **Polycarp**?! I don’t think there’s anybody on the board with a better reputation for integry than **Polycarp**.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/11 "2009-07-13T07:38:18Z")

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I went ahead and reported that post. There’s no call for trolling like that. Since \*\*Zhen’ka \*\*couldn’t attack Liberal, s/he decided to attack you.

Of course, I’m biased a bit too for **Liberal** , as he has “acted in friendship” for me, too. If you’re interested, you can figure out exactly what I mean, but I don’t want to taint it with recognition.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/12 "2009-07-13T11:12:20Z")

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Agreed that that post was, like several others in that thread, unnecessarily obnoxious. Unnecessarily and counterproductively, if you’re annoyed at Lib for his behavior.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/13 "2009-07-13T13:32:57Z")

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For what it’s worth, I totally changed my opinion of **Liberal** after seeing what he did for you, **Poly**.

In any case, **Zhenk’a** ’s comment was totally, ridiculously below the belt. I hope he’s ashamed.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/14 "2009-07-13T14:11:55Z")

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Wait. When did Lib do the thing for Poly? I’m just wondering if this guy is a returning someone or other with old grievances. I’m remembering… something, but I don’t remember _what_ I’m remembering, if you follow. I just remember someone who’d use to pop by and drag up stuff from like 2000 to smack people with.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/15 "2009-07-13T15:23:30Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> Wait. When did Lib do the thing for Poly? I’m just wondering if this guy is a returning someone or other with old grievances. I’m remembering… something, but I don’t remember _what_ I’m remembering, if you follow. I just remember someone who’d use to pop by and drag up stuff from like 2000 to smack people with.

**Liberal** started the thread about the troubles that **Poly** and Skulldigger were having, which led to the collection of money from us to help them out. That’s probably what Zhen’ka was referring to as “paying” him, which is not only an incredible bit of either misunderstanding or complete flat-out lying, but is really stupid as well.  
\*Yes, **Lib** wasn’t the one who actually collected the money, but he was the one who brought it to our attention. Also, he offered them a place to live with his own family, which was unfortunately too far from Skulldigger’s work for them to accept.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/16 "2009-07-13T15:57:24Z")

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Wow, what a shitty thing for **Zhen’ka** to say about someone who has always gone out of his way to be nice to other people. Classy.

And good for you for starting a Pit thread, **Polycarp** , instead of just letting the insult stand unchallenged or going to the mods.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/17 "2009-07-13T16:11:17Z")

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Haa! Giraffe, you are really excited about getting some action in the pit. Me too. Me too.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/18 "2009-07-13T16:16:42Z")

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I’ve always been pretty firmly on the side that sees Liberal as an annoying, if ultimately harmless, irritating little twat, but the incredible displays of blatant assholishness that have been popping up since his return are disgusting, no matter who they’re aimed at, and they’re making the SDMB a worse place.

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/19 "2009-07-13T16:18:09Z")

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^^ Be that as it may, that thread was not the proper venue for Zhen’ka’s post.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zhenka/502829/20 "2009-07-13T16:19:39Z")

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Maybe **pseudotriton ruber ruber** will step into the linked thread and vouch for **Lib** ’s heritage. :rolleyes:

Seriously, **Zhen’ka** WTF is wrong with you? That was just whack.

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