# Zilch... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 11, 2001, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zilch/92769 "2001-11-11T15:33:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2001, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zilch/92769/1 "2001-11-11T15:33:49Z")
Mr. Dobolina, Mr. Bob Dobolina Mr. Dobolina, Mr. Bob Dobolina Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2001, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zilch/92769/2 "2001-11-11T16:24:23Z")
China Clipper Calling Alameda China Clipper Calling Alameda ---
**Author:** ![moggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8c91f0/32.png) [@moggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moggy)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2001, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zilch/92769/3 "2001-11-11T18:51:03Z")
Never mind the furthermore, then plead the self-defense. Never mind the furthermore, then plead the self-defense. ---
**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2001, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zilch/92769/4 "2001-11-11T19:17:14Z")
Mister Dobolina, Mister Bob Dobolina, Mister Bob Dobolina ya make me sick The little two-timer resembles Aunt Jemima ---
**Author:** ![Why\_A\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Why\_A\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Why_A_Duck)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zilch/92769/5 "2001-11-12T21:12:01Z")
It is of my opinion that the people are intending. It is of my opinion that the people are intending. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zilch/92769/6 "2001-11-13T04:39:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by moggy \* > \*\*Never mind the furthermore, then plead the self-defense. > Never mind the furthermore, then plead the self-defense. \*\* **Moggy** : It’s actually Nevermind the furthermore, the plea is self-defense. Minor difference, and I only know it because I know the source. In the movie Oklahoma! at the end, after Jud dies, there’s talk about interrupting Curley’s honeymoon for a trial. The judge will have none of that and asks Curley “Did ya do it?” Curley replies “Well, I was tryin’ to protect myself, and furthermore” Whereupon the judge cuts him off and says “Nevermind the furthermore, the plea is self-defense. I agree. Not guilty!” I wonder if any of the other three lines came from anywhere? Fenris, curious now… ---
**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zilch/92769/7 "2001-11-13T11:45:39Z")
Fenris I had no idea about Oklahoma. Mister Dobolina is a rap by Del tha Funky Homo Sapien. From his album “I Wish My Brother George Could See Me.” ---
**Author:** ![aegypt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@aegypt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aegypt)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zilch/92769/8 "2001-11-13T12:05:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chrome Spot \* > \*\*Fenris > > I had no idea about Oklahoma. > > Mister Dobolina is a rap by Del tha Funky Homo Sapien. From his album “I Wish My Brother George Could See Me.” \*\* And long before that, there was a Monkees song called “Zilch” that had the lyrics cited. See [http://www.monkees.net/DOCS/LYRICS/ZILCH.htm](http://www.monkees.net/DOCS/LYRICS/ZILCH.htm) . ---
**Author:** ![Why\_A\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Why\_A\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Why_A_Duck)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zilch/92769/9 "2001-11-13T13:29:37Z")
And if you look up the Monkees album _Headquarters_ over at Amazon ([link](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000033DZ/qid=1005657697/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_3_3/103-3763233-1313428)), you can hear a snippet (well, pretty much the whole damn thing) of Zilch! It is of my opinion that the people were intending this song to be just a bunch of vocal exercises to help the lads work on their elocution (say any of them ten times fast). Kinda like “He thrusts his fists against the post, he still insists he sees a ghost.” Remember, HQ was the album where they started writing and playing a lot of their own stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Southpaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@Southpaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southpaw)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zilch/92769/10 "2001-11-13T17:48:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fenris \* > \*\* > I wonder if any of the other three lines came from anywhere? > > Fenris, curious now… \*\* IIRC, according to the liner notes on the _Headquarters_ CD the lines were just random stuff the guys heard while on tour. Zilch, zilch, zilch, zzzziilllch… ---
**Author:** ![jimmykent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@jimmykent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimmykent)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zilch/92769/11 "2001-11-13T20:20:56Z")
This song popped into my head just last week. I still have the original album that I wore out SO many years ago. I’m a pretty new doper (don’t post very much), but am really feeling right at home now. Too weird… ---
**Author:** ![moggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8c91f0/32.png) [@moggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moggy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zilch/92769/12 "2001-11-13T21:09:12Z")
I wasn’t quite sure that I had the line right, but it was the only one I could remember at the time! Groovy to know that there are others who like the more ‘obscure’ Monkees stuff (not just Last Train to Clarksvile and all).