# Zimmerman makes the news again.

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 22, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222 "2013-07-22T18:11:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Passengernumber4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@Passengernumber4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Passengernumber4)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/61 "2013-08-24T22:09:15Z")

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> [@johnpost](#):
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> he visits the factory of his favorite firearm.
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> [Lawyer: George Zimmerman should not be visiting gun factories](http://news.yahoo.com/lawyer-george-zimmerman-should-not-be-visiting-gun-factories-174609071.html)

The gun DID save his life from an attacker. I have no problem with this. I would love to visit the factories of some of the things that interest me.

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**Author:** ![LMarie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@LMarie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LMarie)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/62 "2013-08-24T23:50:24Z")

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A few years ago, one of my in-laws attempted to rescue an elderly man who’d been the victim of a car wreck. Unfortunately, the man died in my in-laws arms before the paramedics arrived. My in-law also stayed behind to comfort the woman who caused the accident and to give statements to the police.

It’s rather ironic that had the good Samaritan in this instance been wearing a hoodie and walking through Z’s neighborhood his “look” that would have made Z suspicious of him.

If Z’s story did involve an \*actual \*accident and was not a PR stunt and if he did, in fact, do what’s been reported, then I’m very happy for the family involved.

Zimmerman is still a murderer, though. No number of good deeds will erase this fact. Unfortunately, he is a murderer who had the law on his side.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/63 "2013-08-27T03:51:56Z")

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[http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-we-pay-his-bills-20130826,0,7750164.story](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-we-pay-his-bills-20130826,0,7750164.story)

George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who killed Trayvon Martin, plans to ask the state of Florida to cover $200,000 to $300,000 of his legal expenses, his attorney told the Orlando Sentinel Monday evening.

Because Zimmerman was acquitted, state law requires Florida to pay all his legal costs, minus the biggest one: the fee that goes to his lawyers.

Defense attorney Mark O’Mara said Monday that he would soon prepare a motion, asking Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson to authorize the payments.

His office is still collecting numbers, he said, but he estimated the request would total $200,000 to $300,000.

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**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/64 "2013-08-27T13:58:15Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> His office is still collecting numbers, he said, but he estimated the request would total $200,000 to $300,000.

Good for him. $300,000 saved is $300,000 earned.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/65 "2013-08-27T16:42:29Z")

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> [@johnpost](#):
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> he visits the factory of his favorite firearm.
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> [Lawyer: George Zimmerman should not be visiting gun factories](http://news.yahoo.com/lawyer-george-zimmerman-should-not-be-visiting-gun-factories-174609071.html)

He’s scheduled to piss on Trayvon Martin’s grave later in the week.

Zimmerman and his apologists are nothing but human shit. If some whackjob offs that fucker, well, who really cares?

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/66 "2013-08-27T23:24:25Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> He’s scheduled to piss on Trayvon Martin’s grave later in the week.
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> Zimmerman and his apologists are nothing but human shit. If some whackjob offs that fucker, well, who really cares?

I’ve given you a warning for the use of inappropriate language in MPSIMS. If you want to say stuff like this, go to the Pit.

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/67 "2013-08-28T01:53:32Z")

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Wait, since when can we not be pottymouths outside the Pit? Because I’m pretty fucking sure I liberally say “fuck” all over this board.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/68 "2013-08-28T02:11:02Z")

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Standard motion in Florida. An acquitted person is entitled for some of the court costs to be reimbursed by the state. That doesn’t include attorney fees. Zimmerman stills owes that if he ever gets any money from his NBC defamation suit.

> **[George Zimmerman to ask for $200,000 from Florida for court costs | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/26/justice/george-zimmerman-court-costs/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)**
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> George Zimmerman, the Florida man acquitted of second degree murder in the killing of Trayvon Martin, will ask the state to reimburse him for trial costs.

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> Lawyers for George Zimmerman, the Florida man who was acquitted of second-degree murder in the killing of Trayvon Martin, plan to ask the state to reimburse Zimmerman for at least $200,000 of expenses incurred during his trial.
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> Under Florida law, an acquitted defendant cannot be held liable for court costs or any charges while detained in custody, as long as a clerk or judge consents to the refund.
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> The costs may include money spent for expert witnesses, travel expenses and fees for transcripts.
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> “We’re probably going to ask for somewhere between $200,000 and $300,000,” lead attorney Mark O’Mara said.
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> But, O’Mara said, the chances are slim they’ll receive anywhere near that sum.

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> “I haven’t gotten one penny in fees,” O’Mara said. “I do have an agreement with George that if he comes into money, I would get paid.”
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> Despite being currently unemployed, Zimmerman could potentially get income through other sources such as writing a book, or any money resulting from a defamation lawsuit against NBC News for airing an inaccurate editing of Zimmerman’s call to non-emergency dispatchers

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/69 "2013-09-05T09:54:18Z")

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And now more breaking news: George Zimmerman got a [speeding ticket](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/04/george-zimmerman-speeding-ticket-florida_n_3868881.html?ncid=webmail1)!

Seriously, people need to let this go. Was there an injustice? Yes, in my opinion. But injustices happen every day. It’s time to move on.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/70 "2013-09-05T10:41:13Z")

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What’s this I hear about the UN possibly investigating the shooting?

If they do, what exactly can they do? What do they intend to do? What practical effect could it possibly have on Zimmerman or any civil suit?

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/71 "2013-09-05T18:00:04Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> What’s this I hear about the UN possibly investigating the shooting?
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> If they do, what exactly can they do? What do they intend to do? What practical effect could it possibly have on Zimmerman or any civil suit?

I read that they are just telling the Feds to wrap up their investigation. [From the UN itself:](http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=45762&Cr=united+states&Cr1#.Uig1uWTwKrk)

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> “We call upon the US Government to examine its laws that could have discriminatory impact on African Americans, and to ensure that such laws are in full compliance with the country’s international legal obligations and relevant standards,” said human rights expert Verene Shepherd, who currently heads the UN Working Group of Experts of People of African Descent.

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/72 "2013-09-06T02:35:33Z")

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code talking wife wants a divorce.

[http://news.yahoo.com/lawyer-george-zimmermans-wife-filing-divorce-213817140.html](http://news.yahoo.com/lawyer-george-zimmermans-wife-filing-divorce-213817140.html)

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**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/73 "2013-09-09T19:29:57Z")

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George Zimmerman is being held by police after a domestic incident involving a gun, police said today.

According to police in Lake Mary, Florida, Zimmerman is being detained by police after a domestic dispute involving his wife and father-in-law, Colin Morgan.

“There was some kind of a domestic, we know that with his wife and father-in-law. Apparently there were some weapons involved and threats,” the deputy police chief in Lake Mary told ABC News.

He has not been charged with any crime.

Zimmerman’s wife, Shellie, recently announced plans to divorce.

> **[George Zimmerman's Wife on 911 Tape: 'I Am Really, Really Scared'](https://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=20203329&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F)**
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> George Zimmerman was released without charges after his wife called 911 to say he punched his father-in-law in the nose and threatened to shoot him and his wife.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/74 "2013-09-09T19:53:30Z")

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Interesting that CNN reports it a bit differently:

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> “As of right now, (George Zimmerman) has been placed in investigative detention,” Lake Mary police spokesman Zach Hudson said.  
> The incident comes two months after Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, was found not guilty of murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida.  
> Hudson said a gun was found in the Lake Mary home, but he added that it was not a part of the altercation.

ABC News says:

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> Her attorney told ABC News that Zimmerman pulled a knife on her today after she discovered a firearm in the house they shared. He then pulled a gun on her and her father after a verbal altercation went bad, according to attorney Kelly Sims.

So – her attorney says Zimmerman pulled a knife and a gun; the cops say no gun was involved. Zimmerman not charged.

Yet.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/75 "2013-09-09T20:10:51Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> So – her attorney says Zimmerman pulled a knife and a gun; the cops say no gun was involved. Zimmerman not charged.
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> Yet.

And yet, from (what appears to be) the [same ABC story](http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-custody-domestic-incident-involving-gun/story?id=20203329), you neglected the following:

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> Police are investigating whether a gun found at the scene was used in the incident.
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> “There was some kind of a domestic, we know that with his wife and father-in-law. Apparently there were some weapons involved and threats,” the deputy police chief in Lake Mary told ABC News.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/76 "2013-09-09T20:17:43Z")

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Worth adding, i guess, that i’m not suggesting that we simply take her word for it.

This seems to be one of those situations that could turn out any one of a bunch of different ways, and Zimmerman’s wife seems to have developed a little bit of a taste for the spotlight herself recently. That, combined with the fact that they are divorcing, could provide some incentive for her to be a bit slippery with the facts when she and George have a disagreement.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/77 "2013-09-09T20:19:03Z")

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Zimmermans are the new Kardashians.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/78 "2013-09-09T21:51:09Z")

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[George Zimmerman’s Wife on 911 Tape: ‘I Am Really, Really Scared’](http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmermans-wife-911-tape-am-really-really-205203022--abc-news-topstories.html?vp=1)

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> George Zimmerman was released without charges today after his wife called 911 to say Zimmerman punched his father-in-law in the nose and threatened to shoot him and his wife.

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> In the 911 call, Shellie Zimmerman tells a dispatcher that her husband was in his car raging, adding “he continually has his hand on his gun and he says step closer…” When Shellie Zimmerman trails off the dispatcher asks “step closer and what?” to which Shellie responds “a Step closer and he’d shoot us.”
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> Shellie Zimmerman and her father have refused to give police a sworn statement and have said they do not want to press charges, Bracknell said. Both Shellie’s lawyer, Kelly Sims, as well as George Zimmerman’s lawyer are at the home, ABC News has learned.
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> Police said that their hands are tied if Shellie Zimmerman and her father do not want to press charges. They told ABC News they were trying to figure out “what we have.”
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> But the 911 tapes describe a terrified Shellie Zimmerman. On the call to a police dispatcher she told police that her husband punched her father in the nose, smashed her iPad, cut it with a pocketknife and raged, “one step closer and he’d shoot us.”

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/79 "2013-09-09T22:49:32Z")

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Poor misunderstood George - standing his ground once again.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zimmerman-makes-the-news-again/664222/80 "2013-09-09T22:56:01Z")

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A divorce ‘He said, She said’. Who knows what really happened and what lows either of these two will stoop to to use the media and the court of public opinion.

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