# Zizzle Dizzle?? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 15, 2004, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628 "2004-01-15T19:13:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Thinks2Much](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Thinks2Much](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thinks2Much)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2004, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/1 "2004-01-15T19:13:36Z")
Ok - I am going to show how unhip I am, but what does this zizzle dizzle stuff mean and where did it come from? ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/2 "2004-01-15T19:55:23Z")
It’s just the first letter or sound of a word, followed by a nonsense syllable or two. Straight Dope could become Strizzle Dizzle, or Streezay Deezay, or S Diddy, or Straight Dizope, or whatever you want. There’s no hard-and-fast rule about how it works, people make up their own ways of doing it all the time. I can’t back this up with documentation or anything, but rappers started at, as far as I can tell, because it’s really easy to make words rhyme that way. Like if you want to end a line with the word “turtle,” and then the next line with “alabaster,” you can just say “tizurt” instead of “turtle,” and then rhyme it with “alabizurt.” That’s ridiculous, obviously, but you see the principle. Snoop Dogg (that is, Snoop Dizzle) made it mainstream, because he’s on TV a lot, and he talks like that almost all the time when he’s in public. ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2004, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/3 "2004-01-15T20:02:39Z")
I’ll throw you a bone on this one. The “izzle” talk (I believe) started with rapper Snoop Dogg. (FYI, he’s got a show on MTV, “Doggy Fizzle Televizzle.”) It’s kinda like pig Latin, you might say. Basically you take the first part of the word and put “izzle” on the end. What’s kind of funny to me is that people often use “for shizzle my nizzle” on televizzle and such, when in translation (correct me if I’m wrong, anyone) it means “for s\*\*t my n\*\*\*\*r.” (I’d just like to say that the n-word is not a word I use, I’m just trying to point out that people don’t realize what they’re saying when they say “nizzle.”) Obviously not appropriate for the kidizzles, is it? Hope this helped. Let me know when you’re ready for lesson two, titled “H to the izzo, V to the izzay: A translation of Jay-Z.” ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2004, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/4 "2004-01-15T20:13:48Z")
> [@](#): > > when in translation (correct me if I’m wrong, anyone) it means “for s\*\*t my n\*\*\*\*r.” “For sure,” I believe. But the more offensive part remains, at any rate. Reminds me of when a classmate of mine, who liked to say “fo shizzle my nizzle,” was killed in a car crash, and they made T-shirts that had a picture of him on it, and said that line across the front. It was very weird seing all these older relatives of the kid, (who would’ve been absolutely scandalized if somebody said the actual words,) wearing “Fo Shizzle My Nizzle” in a church. ---
**Author:** ![In\_Conceivable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@In\_Conceivable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/In_Conceivable)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2004, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/5 "2004-01-15T20:28:27Z")
> [@yellowval](#): > > Hope this helped. Let me know when you’re ready for lesson two, titled “H to the izzo, V to the izzay: A translation of Jay-Z.” I’m ready. I have always wondered about that one. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2004, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/6 "2004-01-15T20:41:15Z")
They made t-shirts with that line and his picture to remember him? \ ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2004, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/7 "2004-01-15T21:06:03Z")
Check out [this link](http://www.asksnoop.com/), **chrisk72**. Someone linked to it in a similar thread many mizzles ago, and I found it to be pretty funny. ---
**Author:** ![Quint\_Essence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/54ee81/32.png) [@Quint\_Essence](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint_Essence)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/8 "2004-01-16T08:39:00Z")
These are basically words used by semi-literate people who lack the vocabulary to actually use real words. ---
**Author:** ![In\_Conceivable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@In\_Conceivable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/In_Conceivable)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/9 "2004-01-16T13:41:57Z")
[http://www.asksnoop.com/shizzolator.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstraightdope.com](http://www.asksnoop.com/shizzolator.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstraightdope.com) Now that is funny! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/10 "2004-01-16T15:06:45Z")
Okay, the “H to the izzo, V to the izzay” in the Jay-Z song is basically using the same concept. Here, however, he is spelling out H-o-v-a (take out the “to the izz” in each and that’s what it spells), which is a nickname (short for Jehovah) Jay-Z likes to call himself. Why he calls himself that, I’m not sure. He’s apparently the savior of rap or something along those lines. Now that I’ve explained this, I have a question. In the Cam’ron song that was popular last year, what the heck does “high heel doobie feel” mean? Is that what he actually says, or am I pulling a “'Scuse me while I kiss this guy?” It’s been keeping me awake nights now for months. ---
**Author:** ![RumMunkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@RumMunkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RumMunkey)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/11 "2004-01-16T17:52:40Z")
I get a kick out of the Old Navy ad where Fran Drescher is a switchboard operator and she excalims “My shizzle’s gone fizizzle!”. Doesn’t that ‘translate’ to “My shit has gone for a fit” ?? ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/12 "2004-01-16T18:12:34Z")
> [@In Conceivable](#): > > [Snoop Dogg - Tha Shizzolator](http://www.asksnoop.com/shizzolator.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstraightdope.com) > > Now that is funny! 😃 Sample topics from da Mailbag: Does 2 + 2 = 5 fo’ hella large values of 2? Wass da origin of da 21-gat salute? What 'bout da NHL makes that shiznit “national”? If chlorine in swimming pools kill AIDS, why can’t that shiznit be used as an AIDS cure? What is alum, 'n will that shiznit make someone’s mouth shrink, as shown in cartoons? Followup: da last yo’ ass’ll ever read 'bout da Ark of da Covenant! If yo’ ass refrigerate bananas do they become poisonous? ---
**Author:** ![luluBahrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@luluBahrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/luluBahrain)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/13 "2004-01-16T18:21:28Z")
My friend here says that all the “shizzle” etc started on the streets in Oakland. Just basically because it was harder for people you didn’t want to know what you were speaking about to figure out the jist of what you were saying. And I disagree with people that say that people who use these words are ignorant. Our language is always evolving and just because you don’t like some turns it makes on the way doesn’t give you the right to put down other people. Just my $0.02 ---
**Author:** ![In\_Conceivable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@In\_Conceivable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/In_Conceivable)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/14 "2004-01-16T18:22:37Z")
> [@stolichnaya](#): > > If yo’ ass refrigerate bananas do they become poisonous? Doesn’t seem to matter how many bananas I stick up there they never come out cold. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/15 "2004-01-16T19:05:22Z")
> [@](#): > > Who is Cecil Adams ‘n how did tha dude get be so smart? Don’t ax us." But we’re happy share wit yo’ ass da pitiful collection of FAQs (frequently asked questions) we’ve been afiable scrape together ‘bout Cecil, tha dude’s minions ‘n da mysterious world they frequent, know what I’m sayin’? Note that these aren’t so much questions that are frequently asked of Cecil, these are mo’ questions that are frequently asked 'bout Cecil." Holy shit (Hizzle de shizzle?) that’s funny! > [@](#): > > Online features from da Chicago Reader n’ shit. Oh God, make it stop. > [@](#): > > No material contained in this site may be republished or reposted without express written permission, know what I’m sayin’? :Munch’s spleen explodes: ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/16 "2004-01-16T19:12:27Z")
> [@luluBahrain](#): > > My friend here says that all the “shizzle” etc started on the streets in Oakland. Just basically because it was harder for people you didn’t want to know what you were speaking about to figure out the jist of what you were saying. > > And I disagree with people that say that people who use these words are ignorant. Our language is always evolving and just because you don’t like some turns it makes on the way doesn’t give you the right to put down other people. Just my $0.02 I totally agree with you that it doesn’t make them ignorant. On the contrary, I think it makes them quite creative. Especially S-N Double-O P D-O Double Gizzie. He’s definitaly tha shiznit. ---
**Author:** ![luluBahrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@luluBahrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/luluBahrain)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/17 "2004-01-16T19:17:25Z")
Yes, Snoop is indeed the shiznit. I find that man so sexy for some reason. Oh, and by the way **yellowval** my real name is Val (well Valerie) ---
**Author:** ![Thinks2Much](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Thinks2Much](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thinks2Much)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/18 "2004-01-16T19:17:33Z")
Thank you one and all for your feedback. That Snoop Dogg translator stuff is hilarious! That I can understand, but otherwise, I must admit that even now that you all have explained it, I have a hard time following it. Like in the turtle example above, how would you know that turtizurt is supposed to be turtle without context? I don’t think it is a sign of ignorance. I think you have to be prety intelligent to do this kind of substitution on the fly. To show you how unhip I am, I always thought “Fo shizzle my nizzle” was some kind of sexual stimulation of nipples, an expression to be used kind of like “Kiss my grits”. I can do L33T, but if my son ever gets into this stuff, I won’t be able to keep up. By the time he is old enough (he is not quite 4 now), there will be some other cryptic way of hip kids communicating that I will understand even less, I am sure. ---
**Author:** ![In\_Conceivable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@In\_Conceivable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/In_Conceivable)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/19 "2004-01-16T19:21:44Z")
My favorite part is this: > [@](#): > > Pimp Yo Shiznit on da online Straight Dope! Your direct line thousands of da smartest, hippest muthas on da planet, plus a few total dipsticks n’ shit. I think I am going to start reading the news this way. ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zizzle-dizzle/224628/20 "2004-01-16T19:59:12Z")
> [@luluBahrain](#): > > Yes, Snoop is indeed the shiznit. I find that man so sexy for some reason. Oh, and by the way **yellowval** my real name is Val (well Valerie) I’m a Valerie too, but everybody calls me Val. It’s an awesome name! I was named after my Grandpa Val (his real name was Valentine).