# Zoid, a full response to your lame-ass analogy **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 4, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456 "2014-09-04T07:35:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/41 "2014-09-04T15:08:45Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > Absolutely. If **Czarcasm** had come in and talked about how God is a more popular fictional character than Sherlock Holmes because He shows up in a lot of movies and has been portrayed by Morgan Freeman, George Burns, and even Alanis Morristte, it would be fine. He shows in books like _Good Omens_ and _Towing Jehovah_ (He’s dead in that last one). Shoot, I could make a decent case along those lines. But **Czarcasm** really didn’t do that. > > His intention was pretty fucking obvious. Everybody ignored it, because they wanted to talk about who is a more popular fictional character than Sherlock Holmes - which is why they were in the thread to begin with. However, just because it was ignored doesn’t mean it should be excused. How many of the other posts went into as much depth as you just demanded mine did? To me, it was pretty obvious that God as a fictional character was right up there, and I didn’t think people needed me to remind them of all the recent occurrences…but I gladly would have, along with the more obscure ones, like voice-overs by Val Kilmer and Cecil B. De Mille, if I had gotten back to the thread before I got shut down. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/42 "2014-09-04T15:10:03Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > That’s pretty much it, yes. Then all we have to do is come up with all those examples of off-topic threadshitting, and your opinion is justified, correct? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/43 "2014-09-04T15:10:54Z")
> [@Blaster\_Master](#): > > In response to the hypothetical posed in the OP, I think you’re missing the point here. Yes, someone who is offended by a random person coming in and saying “God doesn’t exist” is overly sensitive. And if that offended person then goes and whines to the teacher and to his parents to make a big fuss about it, then they’re making a mountain out of a molehile. Thank you - but just to reiterate; it wasn’t exactly a hypothetical - it was a precis of _a conversation that actually took place in the linked ATMB thread_, (recast in the characters of myself an offspring). > [@](#): > > But let’s take a slightly different approach to the situation. Let’s say I’m a teacher in this situation, I’m in the room where your son is discussing Superman and that kid comes in and says that. How should I react? If I were that teacher, I think an appropriate action is along the lines of “Knock it out.” Given that the interruption was as brief in nature as (in a real world situation) an idiot shouting two words through the open door, or a bird flying into the window outside, the best thing the teacher could do might be to call the class back to attention and continue the lesson. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/44 "2014-09-04T15:12:34Z")
Name a fictional character. An intelligent Democrat! Maybe \*bullying \*isn’t precisely the correct term, but \*asshole \*serves nicely. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/45 "2014-09-04T15:13:09Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Will tea be served at some point? Tea will be taken at 5pm or after the first 50 replies have been posted whichever is sooner. My missus has brought along a lemon drizzle cake and fruity scones so there’s that to look forward to. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/46 "2014-09-04T15:13:25Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Then all we have to do is come up with all those examples of off-topic threadshitting, and your opinion is justified, correct? I dunno, I think that might break Google. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/47 "2014-09-04T15:18:02Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > I dunno, I think that might break Google. Why don’t you sit over there with **Fenris** and share a giggle or two, you clever monkey? 0 for 2, and I think the fog is slowly being lifted. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/48 "2014-09-04T15:19:36Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > It depends on how that opinion is expressed. Hence “simply opine”, they are just saying “God is a fictional character” If someone were jabbing a finger into my chest or spitting the words into my face whilst contorted in rage…or fingering a knife blade…or murdering a kitten while they say it then yes. That could be bullying. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the words actually used though. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/49 "2014-09-04T15:19:40Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > ETA: I’m not debating Tomndebb’s ruling. I’m simply posting it as a factual cite. I take no stance on whether it’s a good or bad ruling. Just that it exists. [Moderating] This is too fine a distinction for this thread. Let’s avoid discussions of what is or is not against the rules, and focus instead on whether **zoid** , **Czarcasm** , **Mangetout** , or some other undisclosed party is an asshole or not. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/50 "2014-09-04T15:25:52Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Try again, lame ass. Use _both_ your brain cells to come up with a better excuse to explain to everyone why you’ve got nothing. Except that everyone _knows_ you’re a whiny, lameass troll. Hence all the comments in multiple threads. If I was the only one who mentioned it, maybe. But every time you’re pitted or ATMB’d people always comment that this is your standard bullshit. Plus 1. I run the risk of discussing moderation actions if I pull some of your famous threadshits for discussion in the Pit and given that Miller made it 100% clear that this is emphatically not the place for discussions of mod actions, I pass on that. and 1. Since this is another of your patented attempts at a hijack (“I don’t know _what_ you’re talking about! Gosh!”), you’re not actually interested in any evidence, you just want to pollute the thread. Although to be fair, you seem to have advanced a microstep beyond your idiotic “smarmy ‘attack’ by Socratic questioning” gimmick. Finally, you’re an emotionally stunted moron who’s capacity for rational thought and honest discussion ranks somewhat below that of plankton, so why waste the time and effort? ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/51 "2014-09-04T15:26:08Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Why don’t you sit over there with **Fenris** and share a giggle or two, you clever monkey? 0 for 2, and I think the fog is slowly being lifted. **Czarcasm** , If I remember correctly, you are in your 40’s or 50’s. Why are you posting like you’re twelve? If you want respect from, well, not just me, but people in general, you have to post actual arguments. I’m going to throw you a bone. I’m going to give you an opportunity to explain yourself. However, I want it well reasoned and well thought out. What did you mean by “If you count amateur productions and fan fiction”? Why did go with those two instead of the obvious choices of movies and books? ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/52 "2014-09-04T15:27:58Z")
And that’s tea gentlemen, please follow me to the pavilion. Sandwiches are over these, cakes on the table at the end. Tea and coffee are in the jugs by the bar and we have a special guest beer on this week, A Shepherd Neame IPA. Very nice. Moderators I’ve cleared a special table just for you over there between the fag machine and the toilets.😃 ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/53 "2014-09-04T15:31:50Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Moderators I’ve cleared a special table just for you over there between the fag machine and the toilets.😃 What the Hell is a “fag machine”? ETA: never mind, I don’t really want to know. I’ll be at the bar. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/54 "2014-09-04T15:33:24Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Then all we have to do is come up with all those examples of off-topic threadshitting, and your opinion is justified, correct? Generally, you come across as a very unpleasant person. How much you threadshit is a small part of it. Sometimes your barbs are funny, but they’re weird-screaming-hobo-in-the-subway funny, not laughter-among-friends funny. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/55 "2014-09-04T15:34:20Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [Moderating] > This is too fine a distinction for this thread. Let’s avoid discussions of what is or is not against the rules, and focus instead on whether **zoid** , **Czarcasm** , **Mangetout** , or some other undisclosed party is an asshole or not. > [/Moderating] _Raising hand_ If I have an undisclosed asshole in my pants, do I need to report it? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/56 "2014-09-04T15:38:03Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Except that everyone _knows_ you’re a whiny, lameass troll. Hence all the comments in multiple threads. If I was the only one who mentioned it, maybe. But every time you’re pitted or ATMB’d people always comment that this is your standard bullshit. > > Plus > > 1. I run the risk of discussing moderation actions if I pull some of your famous threadshits for discussion in the Pit and given that Miller made it 100% clear that this is emphatically not the place for discussions of mod actions, I pass on that. > > and > > 1. Since this is another of your patented attempts at a hijack (“I don’t know _what_ you’re talking about! Gosh!”), you’re not actually interested in any evidence, you just want to pollute the thread. Although to be fair, you seem to have advanced a microstep beyond your idiotic “smarmy ‘attack’ by Socratic questioning” gimmick. > > Finally, you’re an emotionally stunted moron who’s capacity for rational thought and honest discussion ranks somewhat below that of plankton, so why waste the time and effort? You’ve got nothing. You know you’ve got nothing, and you’re falling back into a last ditch “But everybody knows it so it must be true!” Without actual facts(of which you’ve got none), that isn’t evidence-that’s just successful rumor-mongering. Talk about hijacks. You accuse me of something, then claim that my asking for evidence is a hijack? You really are one grade-A #1 asshole for trying to get away with such a slimy move. Once more: Back up your slimy accusations, or crawl back into your hole. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/57 "2014-09-04T15:41:51Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > **Czarcasm** , If I remember correctly, you are in your 40’s or 50’s. Why are you posting like you’re twelve? > > If you want respect from, well, not just me, but people in general, you have to post actual arguments. I’m going to throw you a bone. I’m going to give you an opportunity to explain yourself. However, I want it well reasoned and well thought out. > > What did you mean by “If you count amateur productions and fan fiction”? Why did go with those two instead of the obvious choices of movies and books? I was referring to amateur Christian productions and Christian fan fiction, of which there is a ton of on the internet, since the object was to find the most fictional depictions. edited to add: If you want to talk about respect, of which I have seen little to none lately, how about some justification via examples of off-topic drivebys by me to show why didn’t believe why I posted in that Café Society thread? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/58 "2014-09-04T15:46:21Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > What the Hell is a “fag machine”? It’s a gay guy doing The Robot. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/59 "2014-09-04T15:46:46Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Generally, you come across as a very unpleasant person. How much you threadshit is a small part of it. Sometimes your barbs are funny, but they’re weird-screaming-hobo-in-the-subway funny, not laughter-among-friends funny. Can we just leave the goalposts where they are for now, please? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/60 "2014-09-04T15:51:19Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > And that’s tea gentlemen, please follow me to the pavilion. > > Sandwiches are over these, cakes on the table at the end. Tea and coffee are in the jugs by the bar and we have a special guest beer on this week, A Shepherd Neame IPA. Very nice. > > Moderators I’ve cleared a special table just for you over there between the fag machine and the toilets.😃 These British pittings are terrrrribly civilized! Or is that spelt civilised? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456.md?page=4)