# Zoid, a full response to your lame-ass analogy **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 4, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456 "2014-09-04T07:35:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/101 "2014-09-04T18:10:00Z")
You haven’t even shown they were off-topic. You’ve only shown that it took you almostan hour to figure out how to spell the word “cite” so that you could stick it in the search engine. For that, your gold star is in the mail. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/102 "2014-09-04T18:23:24Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > Dear **Mangetout** , I think your OP is right on target and post # 15 is wonderful. And **Novelty Bobbie** is really right on in post 7. The rest of you offenderati have wandered off into a discussion about whether **Czarcasm** is a threadshitter of the worst kind. I have to say, none of you came off well, especially the monkey who is apparently only armed with insults. But, to summarize, there is nothing “bullying” about saying God is fictional. There is nothing insulting about it. There is no intent to “bully” or “insult” people who believe that their God is real (as opposed to all the fictional ones). This is not rocket science, folks. Get over yourselves! Wait, what? Why are you singling me out? If anything, I’m the kindest of **Czarcam’s** critics in this thread. I keep offering him a rope, but he just won’t take it. Also, as I’ve said before, **Zoids** analogy was a lame ass analogy. I’m in full agreement there. However, I don’t think **Mangetout’s** stated opinion that we should ignore stuff is good policy. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/103 "2014-09-04T18:24:09Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You haven’t even shown they were off-topic. So, after providing the cites he whined about, he now makes the lazy-ass demand for me (or someone) to do MORE homework for him and explain the cites to him. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/104 "2014-09-04T18:28:17Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > Also, as I’ve said before, **Zoids** analogy was a lame ass analogy. I’m in full agreement there. However, I don’t think **Mangetout’s** stated opinion that we should ignore stuff is good policy. Of course, I dont think we should ignore just anything; only trifles. Really, I just think we don’t need to keep asking teacher to make up new rules. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/105 "2014-09-04T18:28:20Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > So, after providing the cites he whined about, he now makes the lazy-ass demand for me (or someone) to do MORE homework for him and explain the cites to him. Next up, **Fenris** will provide cites for all the times I used the word “bananas”. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/106 "2014-09-04T18:32:21Z")
errr…plenty of scones left everyone, and no-one has touched my wife’s lemon drizzle cake. Is there something wrong with it? And what the hell is all this mess? Sandwiches trodden into the carpet, the tea-urn is tipped over, someone has scratched “novelty bobble is a twat” on the toilet door in biro and that chair wasn’t broken when I left. Have you all been fighting in here? [Ron Burgundy] That escalated quickly![/Ron Burgundy] ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/107 "2014-09-04T18:33:14Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Can we just leave the goalposts where they are for now, please? I don’t know what that means, but it sounds weird-hobo-screaming-in-the-subway funny. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/108 "2014-09-04T18:38:27Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > I don’t know what that means, but it sounds weird-hobo-screaming-in-the-subway funny. It means you should have a doctor look into that for you. Maybe a psychiatrist, considering the constant hearing of hobos screaming and the incredibly slow response time. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/109 "2014-09-04T18:40:39Z")
Alright, another softball. This one is really easy. Hell, it’s like a teeball. Just sitting there on a stick. **Czarcasm** , do you deny that you intended to throw a religious barb into a thread about fictional characters? Because, well, that’s the crux of this and you haven’t actually denied it yet. Sure, you have posted that God is fair game as a fictional character, and I agree. But was your intention something more? That’s the question. Again, don’t fuck it up. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/110 "2014-09-04T18:46:27Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > Alright, another softball. This one is really easy. Hell, it’s like a teeball. Just sitting there on a stick. > > **Czarcasm** , do you deny that you intended to throw a religious barb into a thread about fictional characters? Because, well, that’s the crux of this and you haven’t actually denied it yet. Sure, you have posted that God is fair game as a fictional character, and I agree. But was your intention something more? That’s the question. > > Again, don’t fuck it up. I have denied it several times in the ATMB thread, and I deny it here. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/111 "2014-09-04T18:47:20Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > It means you should have a doctor look into that for you. Maybe a psychiatrist, considering the constant hearing of hobos screaming and the incredibly slow response time. Have a doctor look into positioning of goalposts? Are you seriously criticizing me of taking too long to respond to your earlier post? I don’t consider what you have to say important enough to flag for email notifications. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/112 "2014-09-04T18:49:08Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Next up, **Fenris** will provide cites for all the times I used the word “bananas”. Nice try at the deflection/distraction gambit. However, the “banana” thing wouldn’t be relevant unless you actually had said that you never used the word bananas. You wanted examples of you threadshitting Which I provided and you didn’t read (possibly because you’re too stupid to understand that those blue underlined words take you to the info you requested?) Just to catch newcomers up, ladies and gentlemen, we’re continuing to our live demonstration of the Czarcasm “cite” threadshit style of posting. Note: trained professional here. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME. [ul] [li]First, Czar demands a cite for something blindingly obvious, or for an obvious opinion, or for a general comment or because he’s too dumb to wiki something in the OP.[/li][li]The cite’s given to him (in this case about 10 were given to him)[/li][li]He lies about what the original cite demand was for[/li][li]When that’s pointed out, he tries to deflect/change the topic[/li][li]When that fails, he asks dumb socratic-esque questions that he thinks, somehow…prove…something[/li][li]Then he demands cites for the cites and/or general handholding because he actually _look at_ the cites.[/li][/ul] Note that the order can vary after the first one, and often times in the constant threadshitting, steps are repeated until the other person just throws his/her hands up in frustration (and Czar declares a ‘victory’) We’re now back to “deflection” stage. Let’s see what’ll come next. Will it be a repeat of one of the existing tactics? Or will it be something less common gambit like the "just barely acceptable by the forum’s rule’s insult (sometimes followed by the insincere smiley-face)? The one thing we know is that he won’t address the cites he whined about or the issue at hand (unless this post prompts him to. Which would be a first) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/113 "2014-09-04T18:51:08Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Nice try at the deflection/distraction gambit. However, the “banana” thing wouldn’t be relevant unless you actually had said that you never used the word bananas. You wanted examples of you threadshitting Which I provided and you didn’t read (possibly because you’re too stupid to understand that those blue underlined words take you to the info you requested?) > > Just to catch newcomers up, ladies and gentlemen, we’re continuing to our live demonstration of the Czarcasm “cite” threadshit style of posting. Note: trained professional here. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME. > [ul] > [li]First, Czar demands a cite for something blindingly obvious, or for an obvious opinion, or for a general comment or because he’s too dumb to wiki something in the OP.[/li][li]The cite’s given to him (in this case about 10 were given to him)[/li][li]He lies about what the original cite demand was for[/li][li]When that’s pointed out, he tries to deflect/change the topic[/li][li]When that fails, he asks dumb socratic-esque questions that he thinks, somehow…prove…something[/li][li]Then he demands cites for the cites and/or general handholding because he actually _look at_ the cites.[/li][/ul] > Note that the order can vary after the first one, and often times in the constant threadshitting, steps are repeated until the other person just throws his/her hands up in frustration (and Czar declares a ‘victory’) > > We’re now back to “deflection” stage. Let’s see what’ll come next. Will it be a repeat of one of the existing tactics? Or will it be something less common gambit like the "just barely acceptable by the forum’s rule’s insult (sometimes followed by the insincere smiley-face)? > > The one thing we know is that he won’t address the cites he whined about or the issue at hand (unless this post prompts him to. Which would be a first) They are threadshitting because…? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/114 "2014-09-04T18:57:07Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [Moderating] > This is too fine a distinction for this thread. Let’s avoid discussions of what is or is not against the rules, and focus instead on whether **zoid** , **Czarcasm** , **Mangetout** , or some other undisclosed party is an asshole or not. > [/Moderating] Do we really need to discuss that? I thought it was given that **zoid** , **Czarcasm** , and **Mangetout** , as well as **Fenris** , **armedmonkey** , me, and most of the other people who post in the Pit are assholes who don’t play well with others. It’s a prerequisite. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/115 "2014-09-04T19:00:05Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So let me get this straight. > Y’all don’t buy that I intended my post to refer to fictional depictions of God in various forms of the media(although some of you would have allowed such a submission from another poster), because I drop into threads unrelated to religious debate all the time and threadshit? > > _Bull shit._ > > Speaking of “free passes”, **Fenris** , it’s about time you quit hiding your sniping in ATMB and took it to The Pit, but now that you’re here, why don’t you put up or shut up and come up with all those examples of off-topic threadshitting you’re whining about? Here you go, **Fenris** -the _whole_ post. Note the reference to religion in the topic,(just to keep you on track as to what the conversation is actually about) then note the request for _off-topic_ threadshitting. Even if you turn a blind eye to the preceding paragraph, in what fucking way on earth could a request for a cite be considered off-topic? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/116 "2014-09-04T19:02:27Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Do we really need to discuss that? I thought it was given that **zoid** , **Czarcasm** , and **Mangetout** , as well as **Fenris** , **armedmonkey** , me, and most of the other people who post in the Pit are assholes who don’t play well with others. It’s a prerequisite. 😕 Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/117 "2014-09-04T19:17:21Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > They are threadshitting because…? Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/118 "2014-09-04T19:21:53Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Cite? And now we’re back full circle to the grade school quips you started with. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/119 "2014-09-04T19:30:18Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I have denied it several times in the ATMB thread, and I deny it here. Well, then. That’s a start. You probably should have led with that, though. > [@Mangetout](#): > > Of course, I dont think we should ignore just anything; only trifles. Really, I just think we don’t need to keep asking teacher to make up new rules. I actually agree with that. I would expand on here a bit, but I would have to talk about what should be moderated and what shouldn’t. I don’t want to do that. I will say, however, though I like you as a poster, I thought your post in the ATMB thread was wrong headed. **Zoid’s** analogy didn’t make any sense, granted, but I still disagree with your basic premise that we should ignore “trifles”. There’s a couple of reasons for that. First is that there is no way to decide what a “trifle” is. That may sound a little offenderatti, but offensive posts are only a part of what I’m getting at. If we, as a board, just decide to ignore stuff, we are wandering away from our stated purpose. Fighting ignorance. Which brings me to the second reason. The board can’t shut up. There is no way this message board is going to be quiet about _anything_. The SDMB, by it’s very nature is going to call out anything and everything. Good Lord, do you remember the whole declawing cats thing? That mess even spilled over into a couple of different forums. So, when you ask the board to just ignore “trifles”, my response is that I don’t think that’s wise, or even possible. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456/120 "2014-09-04T19:35:31Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And now we’re back full circle to the grade school quips you started with. You still want someone to spoon feed you info. I posted links where you threadshit with crying “Cite” rather than discussing/debating/doing your own fucking research. It’s not really productive because (as I said waaaaaay back in post 50), you’re not really interested in evidence, you just deny, obfuscate and threadshit and call for “Cite Please” to derail conversation. So, other than poking you with a stick in here, I think I’m largely done demonstrating to everyone else that you are a threadshitting troll who consistently makes the board worse by his mere presence. Also, and no cite, even if requested, you were the worst mod not only in the history of the Dope, you were the worst mod in the history of the entire internet. The board is a better place now that you can only junior mod, rather than real mod. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zoid-a-full-response-to-your-lame-ass-analogy/697456.md?page=7)