# "Zombie" Dogs (Resuscitation Research)?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 28, 2005, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126 "2005-06-28T01:38:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![remisser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b3f665/32.png) [@remisser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/remisser)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/1 "2005-06-28T01:38:35Z")

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Ok, I’m pretty sure this has to be fake, but:  
[http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15739502-13762,00.html?name=otherside](http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15739502-13762,00.html?name=otherside)

Is there any truth to this?

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/2 "2005-06-28T02:07:13Z")

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The [Safar Center for Resuscitation Research](http://www.safar.pitt.edu/) is real. So was [Peter Safar, MD, the Father of Resuscitation](http://www.early-defib.org/news.asp?news_id=97).

It sounds as if they do some neat research at the center, but you’ll have to look in a journal that doesn’t use words like ‘Boffin’ or ‘zombie dogs’ to find out what’s _really_ going on.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/3 "2005-06-28T02:14:47Z")

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That link was taking an absurd amount of time to connect, so I haven’t actually read the article you cite. However, I suspect it might be about a recent experiment in which 14 dogs had their blood removed and replaced by cold saline solution, dropping their body temperature to 50 deg F. The dogs’ hearts stopped, and they ceased to breath, thus appearing to be clinically dead. Eight of the dogs were operated on, while the others were used as a control. After one hour “dead,” the dogs’ blood was restored and they revived. After 72 hours all of the control and half of the experimental dogs were found to be neurologically normal.

[More here](http://www.merginet.com/clinical/trauma/SuspendedAnimation.cfm)

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/4 "2005-06-28T02:27:37Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> [More here](http://www.merginet.com/clinical/trauma/SuspendedAnimation.cfm)

Same stuff. It’s not quite so titillating without the “Boffins Create Zombie Dogs” headline though.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/5 "2005-06-28T03:11:00Z")

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I was reading about this on Slashdot earlier today. I wonder what kind effect it would have on the various arguments for an afterlife if we could “kill” someone for several hours and bring them back as fully functioning humans. Where was their soul during that time? Did it leave and come back? If so, would or should the person have memories of this? If not, how did it know not to leave? Etc…

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/6 "2005-06-28T03:11:11Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Same stuff. It’s not quite so titillating without the “Boffins Create Zombie Dogs” headline though.

And the creepy photo. _shudder_ Does that photo have _anything_ to do with the story?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/7 "2005-06-28T03:17:42Z")

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Grrrrrr…it’s bacon…grrrrr

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/8 "2005-06-28T03:56:47Z")

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\*He likes to experiment on his dog Abocrombie  
In the hopes of creating a horrible zombie  
So that he and his horrible zombie dog  
could go searching for victims in the London fog \*

Protion of ‘Vincent’ Poem, written by Tim Burton.  
Inspired by Edgar Allen Poe’s ‘The Raven’ and children’s stories by Dr. Seuss.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/9 "2005-06-28T04:16:02Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Same stuff. It’s not quite so titillating without the “Boffins Create Zombie Dogs” headline though.

I’m sorry, but I simply can’t resist pointing out that _The Zombie-Dog Boffins_ would be a great band name.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/10 "2005-06-28T06:21:36Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> I was reading about this on Slashdot earlier today. I wonder what kind effect it would have on the various arguments for an afterlife if we could “kill” someone for several hours and bring them back as fully functioning humans. Where was their soul during that time? Did it leave and come back? If so, would or should the person have memories of this? If not, how did it know not to leave? Etc…

But this is nothing new. People have been revived after being clinically dead before, and some people who have drowned in very cold water have been rescuscitated after a surprisingly long time. This sounds like just a controlled method of doing that.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/11 "2005-06-28T07:31:25Z")

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There was an article about this in _Scientific American_ not too long ago. The question is: How long can the dogs stay “out” and suffer no ill effects?

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/12 "2005-06-28T10:21:20Z")

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Although of course Sam they didn’t have their blood taken out and put back.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/13 "2005-06-28T12:21:29Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> I wonder what kind effect it would have on the various arguments for an afterlife if we could “kill” someone for several hours and bring them back as fully functioning humans. Where was their soul during that time? Did it leave and come back?

I don’t believe in souls or the afterlife, but it’s easy enough to explain it such that the soul sticks around until the “final” death. How does it know which is final? Hey, it’s already magic. It knows what it needs to know.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2005, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/14 "2005-06-28T16:55:13Z")

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Here’s something somewhat related:

“This disturbing film records the successful experiments in the resuscitation of life to dead animals (dogs), as conducted by Dr. S.S. Bryukhonenko at the Institute of Experimental Physiology and Therapy, Voronezh, U.S.S.R. Director: D.I. Yashin. Camera: E.V. Kashina. Narrator: Professor Walter B. Cannon.”

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zombie-dogs-resuscitation-research/310126/15 "2005-07-01T02:11:48Z")

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[It must be true! It was on the _Simpsons_!](http://www.snpp.com/episodes/CABF14)

> [@](#):
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> Homer:Quick, Moe! Marge cut off my thumb.  
> Moe:No problem. Just stick the ol’ eye-gouger in the pickle  
> brine. That’ll keep your thumb fresh and delicious.  
> Homer:[puts the thumb in the pickled-egg jar, and takes the jar  
> toward the front door] Thanks, Moe.
