# ZPG Zealot: A troll too far **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 14, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621 "2011-01-14T17:55:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/321 "2011-01-15T20:10:13Z")
She DID try that, remember? But they fired her, duh. Because obviously they wanted to rape her and couldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/322 "2011-01-15T20:18:14Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Everyone knows that New Zilanders don’t shake hands. > > How would our poor ZPG react to a nose-rubbing I wonder? 😃 Trying to force nasal intercourse on her. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/323 "2011-01-15T20:48:44Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > So what if she chooses to accept someone’s handshake, and doesn’t feel violated at all? > [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I would consider that how she wished to live her life and her business. It would be one of the factors I would consider if I was ever called upon to offer an opinion or evaluation about her behavior, but then so would everything else I knew about her. I’m guessing you’re not called upon to give character references very often. “Yes boss, Sally is a good librarian and she’s always on time and the patrons love her, but I saw her shake hands with someone and _she didn’t feel violated at all_!” ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/324 "2011-01-15T20:52:44Z")
> [@Meyer6](#): > > I’m guessing you’re not called upon to give character references very often. “Yes boss, Sally is a good librarian and she’s always on time and the patrons love her, but I saw her shake hands with someone and _she didn’t feel violated at all_!” If only Sally had sex with him instead, I wouldn’t have to call her a dirty whore. IF ONLY. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/325 "2011-01-15T20:54:13Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Etiquette is about respecting everyone’s differences, not imposing your whims on others. Exactly - don’t try to impose your crazy 19th century whims on us and we’ll respect your right to your own beliefs. Nobody is saying you personally have to shake hands - you are perfectly free to refuse. You are the one saying that if you see another woman shake hands you will brand her as a brazen harlot for the rest of her days. And you’re the one saying that almost every man in North America is a potential rapist who disrespects women. You’re the one doing the judging. You’re the one imposing the whim. So why don’t you learn to live by your own rules of etiquette and show some respect? ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/326 "2011-01-15T21:13:29Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Hey, what if we need to lose a few holiday pounds? Don’t dodge when they run their fingers along your cheek and whisper “thinner.” ---
**Author:** ![abbeytxs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@abbeytxs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abbeytxs)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/327 "2011-01-15T21:17:57Z")
I’ve been shaking hands with men for most of my life and I never once got paid for it. Does that just make me a slut, or a really clueless whore? What is an appropriate price for a handshake? I need to know what to charge the next time a guy puts his hand out in front of me. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/328 "2011-01-15T21:50:07Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Trying to force nasal intercourse on her. And this means…? Fuck nose… ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/329 "2011-01-15T21:56:38Z")
I’ll advance a counter suggestion. Why don’t we all wear badges\* that clearly identify us for \*\*ZPG’\*\*s sake. Blue circle if you shake hands Green rectangle if you don’t Orange pentagon if you’re adopted Yellow Hexagon if you’re illegitimate Red Dodecahedron if you’re a vampire Brown triangle if you’re Roma…no, wait a minute, I’m getting [confused](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badges) again. Alternatively, **ZPG** can wear a tinfoil hat or something so we can identify her. \*Please adjust your sarcasm filter if you think I’m serious about the badges. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/330 "2011-01-15T22:39:43Z")
> [@irishgirl](#): > > Alternatively, **ZPG** can wear a tinfoil hat or something so we can identify her. Are you suggesting she doesn’t already? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/331 "2011-01-15T22:53:51Z")
> [@irishgirl](#): > > I’ll advance a counter suggestion. > > Why don’t we all wear badges\* that clearly identify us for \*\*ZPG’\*\*s sake. > > Blue circle if you shake hands > Green rectangle if you don’t > Orange pentagon if you’re adopted > Yellow Hexagon if you’re illegitimate > Red Dodecahedron if you’re a vampire > Brown triangle if you’re Roma…no, wait a minute, I’m getting [confused](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badges) again. > > Alternatively, **ZPG** can wear a tinfoil hat or something so we can identify her. > > \*Please adjust your sarcasm filter if you think I’m serious about the badges. I’m an Old One. Can my badge have a non-Euclidian shape and be in a color out of space? ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/332 "2011-01-15T22:59:41Z")
Hey- I’m not making the badges- you make it and enter it into the central database\*, you can wear what you like! \*There is no central database.Being funny here. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/333 "2011-01-15T23:01:55Z")
I call the Sacred Chao (the not-a-yin-yang-symbol-at-all-we-promise) for Discordians. Alternatively, everyone gets one of those big giant hands that you see at football games, and if you want to shake hands, paint it green, and if you don’t want to shake hands, paint it red. ZPG gets to paint hers black. That way she won’t have to worry so much about colorblind people handraping her. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/334 "2011-01-15T23:13:29Z")
> [@irishgirl](#): > > I’ll advance a counter suggestion. > > Why don’t we all wear badges\* that clearly identify us for \*\*ZPG’\*\*s sake. > > Blue circle if you shake hands > Green rectangle if you don’t > Orange pentagon if you’re adopted > Yellow Hexagon if you’re illegitimate > Red Dodecahedron if you’re a vampire > Brown triangle if you’re Roma…no, wait a minute, I’m getting [confused](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badges) again. > > Alternatively, **ZPG** can wear a tinfoil hat or something so we can identify her. > > \*Please adjust your sarcasm filter if you think I’m serious about the badges. Don’t forget the badge for adoptive parents so she can hide the children if we’re around. It should probably be similar to the vampire badge. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/335 "2011-01-15T23:20:41Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > I actually don’t think it’s that wild of an interpretation, but knowing all of \*\*ZPG’s \*\* posting history may have something to do with why one’s mind might go there. But where? That’s the part that I didn’t get - what is the big deal about calling them “bombings”? What meaning is being read into it? (I don’t know much about \*\*ZPG \*\*, essentially just what has been posted here.) > [@Kolga](#): > > I call bullshit on the culture issue. I simply do not believe that there is a entire culture that believes the shit she spews. I believe that while she may be from a different culture, her personal views expressed here are not of that culture, but of her own whackjobness. I dunno - aren’t there still some religions out there that have an equal level of whackjobness? That’s the way it comes across to me - religious zealot. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2011, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/336 "2011-01-16T00:05:35Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > A grazing mace how sweet the sound I’ll be keeping this in a case marked “In case of thread about warrior cows, break glass”. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/337 "2011-01-16T00:11:14Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > But where? That’s the part that I didn’t get - what is the big deal about calling them “bombings”? What meaning is being read into it? (I don’t know much about \*\*ZPG \*\*, essentially just what has been posted here.) The big deal is that there is a movement called the “truth” movement, which is made up of conspiracy theorists who believe that the WTC was LITERALLY bombed, and that they fell down due to the explosion of the bombs, and not because the planes hit them. They believe that both buildings (and the smaller ones that fell down as well) were wired with explosives, and detonated when the planes hit. So, it seems significant that someone, especially someone who seems fairly paranoid, would casually refer to the incident as a bombing, when the only other people on earth who do so are these truther folks. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2011, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/338 "2011-01-16T00:30:01Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > I call bullshit on the culture issue. I simply do not believe that there is a entire culture that believes the shit she spews. I wonder if **Kal** is still around. I’d be curious to get his take on **ZPG Zealot** ’s variant of Roma beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2011, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/339 "2011-01-16T00:35:00Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > The big deal is that there is a movement called the “truth” movement, which is made up of conspiracy theorists who believe that the WTC was LITERALLY bombed, and that they fell down due to the explosion of the bombs, and not because the planes hit them. They believe that both buildings (and the smaller ones that fell down as well) were wired with explosives, and detonated when the planes hit. So, it seems significant that someone, especially someone who seems fairly paranoid, would casually refer to the incident as a bombing, when the only other people on earth who do so are these truther folks. Oooohhh. Bizarre. Why would they bother to fly airplanes into the buildings if they were wired to blow? I know - don’t try to figure out whackadoodle… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2011, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621/340 "2011-01-16T01:57:20Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Exactly. I just couldn’t believe that whoever it was ( **Lute Skywatcher**?) picked _that_ to bitch about. Not bitching but suggesting the target of this thread is the female analog of [ivan astikov](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12711937&postcount=87). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zpg-zealot-a-troll-too-far/567621.md?page=18)