# Zubeidat Tsarnaeva-Anyone else think she's a hottie? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 28, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909 "2013-04-28T14:37:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/21 "2013-04-28T21:19:53Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > No wonder so many Islamists hate us. We are talking about the fuckability of a terrorists mom. I’m a bit curious as to whether or not you want to rethink this position-somebody talks about a woman, in this case of another religion, and you think it would be wonderful, _wonderful???_ (i.e., something full of wonder) if an entire religion did not hate you, and whoever else you include in your ‘we’? I can assure you that I have substantially more Islamic friends/ex-gfs than you have, and that they would not despise me for this, but they may resent your profiling them as haters because of my lusting after ‘their’ women. Or, perhaps marginalizing this woman as a ‘terrorist’s mom’, thus robbing her of her sex, because of something her son did. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/22 "2013-04-28T22:04:07Z")
Come Babushka, my faithful womb will turn your apostate seed into Jihad warriors. No!!! Do not make love to me in the oppressive Crusader “missionary position”, make love to me _the Chechen way_. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/23 "2013-04-28T22:05:33Z")
Oh FFS! Yet another thread turned into a “Guys are dicks” thread. Fucking awesome! ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/24 "2013-04-28T22:18:13Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > Oh FFS! Yet another thread turned into a “Guys are dicks” thread. Fucking awesome! I’m pretty sure it began that way, actually. (And I actually haven’t been riding that recent bandwagon.) For whatever reason, I’d have been right on board if she was described as “beautiful,” because I do agree she is. But “hottie” and “uberhot” and “smoking hot babe”…no, no, she isn’t. Those are very particular descriptors drenched in sexual objectification connotations which don’t, at all, fit the pictures or the woman in them. Not every woman is attractive because she’s fuckable. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/25 "2013-04-28T22:25:38Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > I’m pretty sure it began that way, actually. (And I actually haven’t been riding that recent bandwagon.) > > For whatever reason, I’d have been right on board if she was described as “beautiful,” because I do agree she is. But “hottie” and “uberhot” and “smoking hot babe”…no, no, she isn’t. Those are very particular descriptors drenched in sexual objectification connotations which don’t, at all, fit the pictures or the woman in them. Not every woman is attractive because she’s fuckable. Are you saying you \*wouldn’t \*hit that? [del]God[/del]Allah, what’s wrong with you? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/26 "2013-04-28T22:31:11Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > I’m pretty sure it began that way, actually. (And I actually haven’t been riding that recent bandwagon.) > > For whatever reason, I’d have been right on board if she was described as “beautiful,” because I do agree she is. But “hottie” and “uberhot” and “smoking hot babe”…no, no, she isn’t. Those are very particular descriptors drenched in sexual objectification connotations which don’t, at all, fit the pictures or the woman in them. Not every woman is attractive because she’s fuckable. “Very particular descriptors”??? Wow, I must secretly hate women if I use ‘very particular descriptors’. Didn’t even know it myself, but your keen eye and pleasant manner brought me to myself. BTW, who the fuck are you to pass judgement and declare that a woman may not be attractive because she’s fuckable?? I think that the terms are MOL interchangeable. Who wants to fuck somebody that’s repellant?? Knock off the shit. You say the woman can be described as beautiful, but not a hottie? Snap out of it. Listen, the thread doesn’t need CSI/SDMB agents. We don’t even need any wannabe Clarice Starlings on this. You don’t know shit about what I’m thinking other than what is in the thread, and 3 or 4 “very particular descriptors” are not enough to make any assessments with. Seriously. Please, read and respond to the OP, not to some incorporeal beast from your sad pasts, or unhappy presents. If you want to audition for Criminal Minds, please see a Hollywood agent or your nearest PD! ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/27 "2013-04-28T22:36:56Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > I’m pretty sure it began that way, actually. (And I actually haven’t been riding that recent bandwagon.) I’m pretty sure you’re wrong. And, yes you were riding that bandwagon. You were just waiting for an opportune moment to spout your hatred. And, try to show your great powers of profiling the women-haters of the world, who secretly want to rape women into subjection, and impose the glass ceiling on them. I mean, who else would drench? ---
**Author:** ![Ms.Pumpkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@Ms.Pumpkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms.Pumpkin)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/28 "2013-04-28T23:03:20Z")
Good grief- does everything have to _mean_ something? I think she’s very (physically) attractive. Same with her sons. I say “attractive” right now; next time I might say “cute”, “handsome”, “beautiful”, “hot”, “fine”, “smokin’”, “pretty”, or “comely”. To me they are all ways of saying the same thing: I enjoy this person’s physical appearance. That’s it. No implied “fuckability”, likability, or anything else. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/29 "2013-04-28T23:05:45Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > Please, read and respond to the OP, not to some incorporeal beast from your sad pasts, or unhappy presents. > If you want to audition for Criminal Minds, please see a Hollywood agent or your nearest PD! will do! here are some more entries for the “terror-list,” which is what I have decided to call it. i will focus more on domestic perpetrators this time, since I don’t want to give anybody the impression that I am a racist! [timothy mcveigh](https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gs_rn=11&gs_ri=psy-ab&tok=jwYSqIDmo0mfhmKRC4l2xg&pq=terrorists&cp=11&gs_id=bd&xhr=t&q=timothy+mcveigh&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=j3G&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45645796,d.cGE&biw=1280&bih=596&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=sqV9UZqaMISLiAKtp4GwBA). a clean-cut, nondescript boy from upstate NY, you can almost smell the barbasol wafting from his pics–glamor shots they most certainly ain’t! but behind those eyes, can’t you see shades of the unrequited lust smoldering within? if so, you’re right on target: according to his authorized biography, “his only sustaining relief from his unsatisfied sex drive was his even stronger desire to die.” betcha that means he could go all night! **7.5/10** [ted kaczynski](https://www.google.com/search?q=ted+kaczynski&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=3ad9UYeFMIb9iQKmnoH4Dg&biw=1280&bih=596&sei=36d9UbrvJ4qDiwKo54CACg). a philosopher, an adjunct professor, a self-styled revolutionary… all impressive titles, but ladies, can you honestly say you would let your coochies loose anywhere near this ungroomed, wild-eyed beast? I know I would never! the famous [speculatory police sketch](http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-unabombers-manifesto-theodore-kaczynski-the-unabomber/1003452321) of this maniac mail-bomber certainly set us up for a disappointment… instead of the stylish hoodie, cool shades and neatly-trimmed 'stache we were all counting on, when the Unabomber was decisively identified, the face he greeted us with was less John Cleese on a snowy winter day and more Harry Knowles after a long struggle with depression—and that news ain’t cool at all. **3/10** ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/30 "2013-04-28T23:49:25Z")
> [@colander](#): > > What makes you think all “Islamists” make their women wear burqas? Because the meaning of “Islamist” is “one who wants to impose a strict version of Islam on others”. It’s not a synonym for “Muslim”. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/31 "2013-04-28T23:55:54Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Because the meaning of “Islamist” is “one who wants to impose a strict version of Islam on others”. It’s not a synonym for “Muslim”. That’s nice. So what makes you think all “Islamists” make their women wear burqas? ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/32 "2013-04-28T23:55:56Z")
> [@colander](#): > > will do! You didn’t! Can you take your hijacks somewhere else? This thread is about a woman, not about terrorists. Sigh. Reported again. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/33 "2013-04-29T00:00:22Z")
Moderator note Cool down everyone. We can discuss this without insulting one another. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/34 "2013-04-29T00:17:11Z")
not sure we can. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/35 "2013-04-29T00:21:30Z")
> [@colander](#): > > That’s nice. So what makes you think all “Islamists” make their women wear burqas? Because the meaning of “Islamist” is “one who wants to impose a strict version of Islam on others”. It’s not a synonym for “Muslim”. As I said. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/36 "2013-04-29T00:23:22Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > This thread is about a woman, not about terrorists. as you can see, there’s only so much one can say about how prong-worthy one finds any particular person before one begins to feel like maybe there is something a little wrong with them. that’s why this thread has expanded in scope to include hard-nosed evaluations of the bodily bodaciousness of a wide variety of terrorist sympathizers! any requests? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/37 "2013-04-29T00:53:52Z")
> [@colander](#): > > as you can see, there’s only so much one can say about how prong-worthy one finds any particular person before one begins to feel like maybe there is something a little wrong with them. that’s why this thread has expanded in scope to include hard-nosed evaluations of the bodily bodaciousness of a wide variety of terrorist sympathizers! any requests? Nope, but how about another thread from another person with similar…um…interests? > **[Am I the only one who thinks bin Laden is hot?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=87259)** > > OK, I said it. Go ahead and flame me. Of course I’d like to see the bastard bombed into oblivion. Of course I think he’s an asshole. Of course I’m sickened by his acts and his entire organization. But damn if he isn’t hot. (note the actual date of the OP–this wasn’t years later, it was 3 days after) Talk about being cut from the same cloth. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/38 "2013-04-29T01:23:57Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Because the meaning of “Islamist” is “one who wants to impose a strict version of Islam on others”. It’s not a synonym for “Muslim”. > > As I said. Yes, you did say that. Now, please: What makes you think all “Islamists” make their women wear burqas? Here’s a secret hint: “Islamists” don’t all have the same conception of the fundamentals of Islam! Golly gee! ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/39 "2013-04-29T01:29:39Z")
> [@colander](#): > > Yes, you did say that. Now, please: What makes you think all “Islamists” make their women wear burqas? Because the meaning of “Islamist” is “one who wants to impose a strict version of Islam on others”. It’s not a synonym for “Muslim”. It appears you have a problem reading for comprehension. > [@](#): > > Here’s a secret hint: “Islamists” don’t all have the same conception of the fundamentals of Islam! Golly gee! It’s close enough that it doesn’t matter. They are woman hating terrorist scum, the details aren’t important. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909/40 "2013-04-29T01:32:05Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Nope, but how about another thread from another person with similar…um…interests? > > [Am I the only one who thinks bin Laden is hot? - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=87259) > > (note the actual date of the OP–this wasn’t years later, it was 3 days after) > > Talk about being cut from the same cloth. I don’t see how that thread is at all similar to this one, **Fenris**. This thread is about a woman! Osama bin Laden wasn’t a woman, silly! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zubeidat-tsarnaeva-anyone-else-think-shes-a-hottie/656909.md?page=3)