You don't me, but I'm 20K in debt. Help me out?

[beagledave]

That seems to be the premise of this bimbo's web site.

From her FAQ

HOW COULD YOU HAVE GOTTEN YOURSELF INTO SUCH A "PIG WALLOW?"
Again another good and well-worded question. I just couldn't stop buying things. It's as simple as that. I'm going to be honest here... I wasn't out saving the world. I was just at Bloomingdales.

In 2 months...she's had enough morons contribute to her "cause", that she has collected about $1400 outright..with a few hundred more collected in eBay sales..and various other material contributions.








Hmmmmm.

My daughter is now a little over a year old.
She is darn cute.

Her college tuition will probably easily be in the 20K range.

Won't you please contribute?

[Purd Werfect]

I've seen this before. I don't admire her lack of financial skill, but I do admire her brashness and ingenuity. Since the only people who send her anything are people that want to, I don't see any problem with it. I wouldn't send her a penny. Obviously some people will.

Can you tell me what your daughter will major in? That'll help me to decide about the tuition thing.

[Guinastasia]

Read her "contact Karyn" page:

But anyway, I got 12 e-mails. Some dude told me that I don't have to report what I make as income. He said you only have to report monetary gifts if they are over $10,000 from one single person. Good to know. So if you are feeling generous, please make the check out for no more than $9,999.99 to be on the safe side. Some other dude told me that I do have to report it, because is IS considered income. So I'm gonna check with an accountant to be on the safe side. Don't want to end up in jail...

Get a job you lazy bitch.

WHAT'S IN IT FOR YOU, YOU ASK?
It's normal that one should ask this question. I'll be honest... nothing is really in it for you. But I do believe in Karma. If you help me, then someday someone might help you when you need it. SO HELP ME, and maybe someday, I'll be able to help you.

Talk about fucking shallow.

I'd like to smack this fucking bitch.

I'd like to point out it was her own stupidity.

I'd like to scream. Wait-I can do THAT!!!

WAAAAAHHHH!!!!

There! That feels better!

[Mr. Miskatonic]

dontsavekaryn.com

[beagledave]

Originally posted by Purd Werfect
Can you tell me what your daughter will major in? That'll help me to decide about the tuition thing.

After conferring with her, it appears that anything involving tormenting beagles or dumping yogurt on the floor will suit her fine.

Perhaps I should follow the lead of corporate America and naming rights to stadiums?

$10K = Pick the college that she will attend
$20K = Pick the field that she will major in.





$25 = she'll mention your name at her first kegger.

[Purd Werfect]

Well, I'm certainly troubled by beagles, so I'll consider this carefully.

[Caffeine.addict]

TOTAL MONEY RECEIVED FROM NICE PEOPLE TO DATE: $4,105.84

Beagledave, it is actually worse than you said. Somehow, she had convinced people to give her over four grand. What is this world coming to? Someone please tell me this is a joke.

[beagledave]

Originally posted by brujo


Beagledave, it is actually worse than you said. Somehow, she had convinced people to give her over four grand. What is this world coming to? Someone please tell me this is a joke.

You're right. I just quickly looked at the last number, which I guess was the "donation" for that week.

Guess there really is no such thing as "bad" publicity when it comes to cyber-panhandling.

[JustPlainBryan]

Meh.

I don't see a problem with this at all. It's not like she's duping people into giving her money; she is being completely honest. If I weren't a charity case myself, I'd give a buck.

Hey <b>beagledave</b>, when I get out my financial burdens, I'd be happy to give money towards your daughter's college fund! I couldn't think of a better way to donate my money!


_{I'm serious too...}

[JustPlainBryan]

damn, I should have previewed.....

[JeffB]

Originally posted by beagledave
After conferring with her, it appears that anything involving tormenting beagles or dumping yogurt on the floor will suit her fine.

Sounds like a potential performance artist.

[TwistofFate]

fucking bitch with no sense of self responsibility. Fuck her. She mentions karma? Its going to get dumped all over her.

[Jonno]

Originally posted by JustPlainBryan
Meh.

I don't see a problem with this at all. It's not like she's duping people into giving her money; she is being completely honest. If I weren't a charity case myself, I'd give a buck.

I am so gonna pimp slap you upside the head next time I see you.

We're a free enterprise system, so of course I support her right to do something like this. As I support the rights of the American Cancer Society to ask for donations. Or the Breast Cancer Foundation. Or the Make-A-Wish foundation.

Ya just gotta ask yourself a question. Would my dollar do more good helping the fight against cancer, or letting a dying child have their dying wish granted? Or would it do more good in the pocket of a money grubbing, morally bankrupt bitch who isn't willing to get a fucking job and pay her own goddam bills?

[JustPlainBryan]

Originally posted by CelticCowboy


I am so gonna pimp slap you upside the head next time I see you.

Bring it on, Beeoyyytch!!!

Ya just gotta ask yourself a question. Would my dollar do more good helping the fight against cancer, or letting a dying child have their dying wish granted? Or would it do more good in the pocket of a money grubbing, morally bankrupt bitch who isn't willing to get a fucking job and pay her own goddam bills?

It's a moot point either way for two reasons:

1) I'm not in any way, shape, or form in a financial situation to make donations of any kind.
2) Jen controls the money anyway.

[Stoid]

I'm with Bryan on this one, folks. Not to the degree that I would actually contribute, but I don't see her crime.

Pump Action Gerbil was marching around the house last night grumbling about what an "evil, stupid bitch" she is. I didn't understand it and I don't understand why any of you feel such hostility. She sure aint' stupid, she's managed to get $4000 in donations, and between her and the people who donated, I'd give her the props for smarts. She isn't dishonest (assuming the site is for real and she is too), she's completely admitting she screwed up, which lots and lots of people do. She isn't claiming that it is anyone's fault but her own, she isn't blaming anyone but herself. She's not making any shady offers, nothing. All she's done is asked anyone who feels like it to help her get her ass out of this situation. Period.

And this is evil? She's a bitch? How does that follow? Who has she harmed? Someone said karma would get her... seems her karma is just fine. She hasn't done anyone or anything any kind of harm.

I think y'all are just having a visceral reaction and you haven't really thought about it. Cuz if you did I think you'd realize that there is nothing wrong, evil, hurtful, dishonest or bad in any thing she's done. Foolish, self-indulgent, yes. But who does that harm? No one that I can see.

Really, save your ire for the people who really deserve it.

[Guinastasia]

Because, she's an idiot.

Because she's a spoiled little princess who's like, "OHMIGAWD, you mean you have to PAY credit card bills?"

Plus, if she's that broke, then disconnect the computer, sell your domain, and do something. Work at McDonalds, for crying out loud! Dammit, I'd like to get a decent job, and yeah, I whine about Kmart, but I don't panhandle.

There are people out there who beg who are in really serious, dire straits. She isn't one of them.

Fuck, when my dad lost his job because his boss was a fucking crook, he didn't make up some scam, "Please give me money." And my parents had just bought a house, had two kids in Catholic school, bills to pay and what not. So FUCK HER.

And like I said, why pay money for her own website, internet and her own domain? What a waste.

It's pathetic.

[beagledave]

Originally posted by Stoid

I think y'all are just having a visceral reaction and you haven't really thought about it. Cuz if you did I think you'd realize that there is nothing wrong, evil, hurtful, dishonest or bad in any thing she's done. Foolish, self-indulgent, yes. But who does that harm? No one that I can see.

Really, save your ire for the people who really deserve it.

Actually I didn't use words like evil (nor did anybody else in this thread) or hurtful (nor did anyone else in this thread) or dishonest (nor did anyone else in this thread) ..damn is there a pattern here?


I also wasn't aware that someone had to bring harm to somebody else before they were allowed to be pitted. (Goodness knows I hope you have never criticized someone who has not actually brought harm to someone else..)

I think she is lazy. I think doing this in a high profile way invites public opinion. I think that people who pony up money to a complete stranger who spent her money at Bloomingdales are morons.

I hope my daughter will make smarter choices in her life than to blow 20K on material foofah..and then beg strangers to bail her out.

[beagledave]

When I was typing the above post..Guin had not used the term "scam" yet...just to clarify.

Actually I don't claim that what "Karyn"is doing is a scam..i.e being "dishonest" about her intent.

That doesn't change my opinion of her actions...and the actions of the contributors.

[anya marie]

I cannot believe she got a crowd to send her FOUR FUCKING THOUSAND dollars!

I am with the rest of y'all and am not sending her shit, OTOH it might be funny if a bunch of people sent her penny wrappers...by the ton.

[anya marie]

I cannot believe she got a crowd to send her FOUR FUCKING THOUSAND dollars!

I am with the rest of y'all and am not sending her shit, OTOH it might be funny if a bunch of people sent her penny wrappers...by the ton.

[Guinastasia]

I'm sorry-but she bought Kate Spade purses, Prada shoes, BCBG purses, cameras, scanners....it seems. Not just a lot of stuff-but designer goods.

You know, she's selling her stuff on ebay. That's GOOD.

But I'm sorry, I don't feel bad for her.

I guess I'm being a bit harsh, it's just that I'm bitter.

See, people like her are what people who criticize us liberal do-gooders think we're helping. They say, oh, it's just spoiled brats who can't control themselves.


I mean, she's obviously clever enough to think up the website-why not put the energy into trying something else?

[Stoid]

Well, Beagledave, it just seems there is real anger pouring out at this woman, both here and elsewhere, and no, in my recollection and experience, people do not generally get royally pissed off at people who have done no harm to anyone, either by word or deed.

As to her laziness... well, assuming that everything she has said on her website is true (and given that much of it is unflattering, we have no reason to believe otherwise), she also talks about how much she works and what she is doing on her own to raise the funds. She doesn't sound at all lazy to me.

I agree that getting 20K in the hole buying status bullshit is lame. But I think buying status bullshit when you can afford it is lame.

But really, she seems pretty up front about it all, she also seems to have learned a hard lesson and is mending her ways. I think what she has done is pretty enterprising and funny, and I can understand someone sending her a buck just for giving them a giggle.

And I still don't understand why anyone would be angry at her or consider her a "fucking bitch" over it.

[TeaElle]

Karyn (Bostack or Bostick is her last name, btw)was on the Today Show this morning. She's college educated, well spoken, and actually rather cute, but shallow as a teaspoon and utterly reprehensible -- even moreso now, I think, that she's gone public via mass media.

She has got a job -- in television. My guess is that she's probably a PA or low level producer or editor or something, though I must admit that learning this info only serves to heighten my suspicions that this whole thing may be some elaborate "reality entertainment" scheme or twisted performance art piece. She claims herself to be a good Catholic girl from the midwest (Indiana somewhere) who just "got in over her head" but at least she was "helping the economy."

Uh huh.

Having seen her yipping about the $5,000+ that she's raised so far from donations and eBay sales, I wanted to smack her smug face. She is thoroughly unapologetic and completely unwilling to accept responsibility for her own overspending.

She also says that if she gets her debts paid off, she'd like to keep the domain and use it to collect donations in this same vein for some other idiot who never figured out how to live within their means.

When good, decent people spend themselves foolishly into more debt than they can pay in a reasonable amount of time, they get a second job, sometimes even a third. If push comes to shove, they declare bankruptcy. They don't beg, especially not from strangers.It's just tacky and repulsive, and not only do I think Karyn should be highly ashamed of herself, so should every idiot who has given this undeserving little twit a single penny.

[Jonno]

Originally posted by Stoid

Really, save your ire for the people who really deserve it.

My ire knows no boundaries. It is as vast as the universe and will not be contained.

Can't see any reason to save it up.

I think y'all are just having a visceral reaction and you haven't really thought about it. Cuz if you did I think you'd realize that there is nothing wrong, evil, hurtful, dishonest or bad in any thing she's done. Foolish, self-indulgent, yes. But who does that harm? No one that I can see.

True. She's not being dishonest. But she is presenting herself as a charity case. Every dollar I give to the Red Cross is a dollar that I don't give to Make-A-Wish. And every dollar that's given to pay off this credit card debt is a dollar that could have gone somewhere worthwhile.

In my book this is wrong, hurtful and bad. YMMV.

[Scylla]

So how much do I have to contribute to get the hardcore nude pics?

[Stoid]

tlw, you say she is unapologetic. To whom would you have her apologize?

And you have most accurately portrayed the situation, I think, when you call it "tacky". I'll buy tacky.

[Guinastasia]

tlw, in this case, I'm with you.

I mean, people think it's so "cute" to give her money. I'd rather give my money to someone who REALLY needs it.

I'm NOT saying that she can't bitch or moan about her predicament. She can. But to set up a site for her own "charity", well, that's just rather shallow.


All the time spent on the computer could be time spent clipping coupons, volunteering, perhaps looking into credit counseling, or whatever. And as far as "I'm not going to declare bankrupcy", because "you'd pay for on your tax dollars..." well, whatever.

She makes it harder for us liberals to talk about those who need help.

[Stoid]

Originally posted by CelticCowboy

True. She's not being dishonest. But she is presenting herself as a charity case. Every dollar I give to the Red Cross is a dollar that I don't give to Make-A-Wish. And every dollar that's given to pay off this credit card debt is a dollar that could have gone somewhere worthwhile.

In my book this is wrong, hurtful and bad. YMMV.

If this is so, then who has done the bad? Certainly not her, she didn't pick your pocket. It is you who made the poor choice of giving money to her instead of to Make-A-Wish. It's the old saying: "no harm in asking!"

[butter pie]

Poor young girl. Check.

Evil bitch. Check.

Domain name. Check.

Pictures of me on my website. Check. You can even see my face in my photos!

Hey I got it all down...how come I don't have $4000.00!

And she got to be on the Today show?

Whiney stupid evil bitch!!!

[TeaElle]

Originally posted by Stoid
tlw, you say she is unapologetic. To whom would you have her apologize?

The universe, for being an unrepetant, self-aggrandizing screw-up? The general public, for wasting our time and trying our patience by foisting her cold-hearted "sob" story on us and expecting us to give a damn? Common sense for ignoring it for the last several years?

[Caffeine.addict]

Having stewed over this for a while now, I have come to the conclusion that what she has done is just tacky rather than evil. In her view of things, getting people to send her money was easier than getting a second or third job. At this juncture, I can't really fault her for taking the money and running. In month, she has made up to $5000. I can't think of any second job that would pay so well.

The people that I would really condemn for this are the idiots who are giving her money so she can bail herself out. Of all the things I would spend my money on, this comes dead last after aged roadkill. I would like to know what one of her charitable contributors is thinking when they give her the money. What would possess someone to give their hard earned dollars to a complete stranger who ran up their debt on expensive designer goods that she couldn't afford?

[Caffeine.addict]

In month, she has made up to $5000.

That should read, " In one month, she had made up to $5000.

[OxyMoron]

What's truly appalling is that she probably won't have to declare any of this as income - everything that comes into her is either a gift (if a donation) or is a loss sale (marked-down Kate Spade on Ebay).

I'm not a tax lawyer, but from what I recall from my income taxation class, the IRS has a difficult time characterizing panhandler's proceeds as "income" - they're not actually doing anything for the donor. So these are gifts. And gifts aren't taxed to the recipient - they're taxed to the donor as part of the estate tax, which doesn't kick in till the donor coughs up $20,000 in a year to the same recipient. (Do not ask for more of an explanation, or I'll give it to you. You've been warned.)

It's why my tax prof used to get so incensed - she'd read that some panhandlers were making more in a year than people who clean the Port Authority toilets, who of course are subject to income and payroll tax. Not fair.

And what we have here is a high-class panhandler. Well, no-class, really.

Sigh. It really is silly season.

[Jurhael]

What she did isn't all that much different than cam girls who ask for gifts and money. But, at least with cam girls, you get SOMETHING in return. With this woman, you supposedly get "good karma", which to me, looks like nothing.

[Miss Creant]

Karyn is a selfish lowlife, and an unmitagated lout. (screw spelling, I'm pissed)
I'm 20 grand in the hole. Yup, it's partly my fault. The other part is trying to pay off my fucking student loan for my fucking USLESS Bachelor degree (the only job I've been able to get since February pays a whole $8 and hour) and paying of the thousands of dollars in medical bills that my USLESS insurance didn't cover when I had to go to the ER 3 fucking times in 6 months and then have surgery.

I have cleaned out all my savings. Emptied my IRA's and 401K's with SIGNIFICANT penalties so I can pay my mortgage.

I'm not above asking for help, but this is beyond the bounds of reason. Anyone who sends her money, might as well make out a check to Jim Baker while they're at it.
Karyn, she's special. She's the Human Barnacle.

[Miss Creant]

unmitagated lout?

see, I am pissed.

[Creaky]

Originally posted by Stoid
But really, she seems pretty up front about it all, she also seems to have learned a hard lesson and is mending her ways. I think what she has done is pretty enterprising and funny, and I can understand someone sending her a buck just for giving them a giggle.

Totally. I checked out the site and cracked up. You gotta love her ingenuity!!

[symplicity]

Shoot, I think she is funny and have often dreamed of my debt being paid off. For the amount I have contributed to vegas or the ca lottery I could have sure made that number more than four thousand!!
FTR I have (a few times) thought liberals were too soft on people but please don't think someone like Karyn with her disigner goods ever crossed my mind.
Karma is something I believe in and that account keeps a balance so either she is going in debt there or has already paid in.

[black rabbit]

Originally posted by Scylla
So how much do I have to contribute to get the hardcore nude pics?

That's the first thing I thought when I stumbled across that site. We need to start a "Show Us Your Tits" fund or something. I've got a dollar.

[misstee]

Originally posted by black455


That's the first thing I thought when I stumbled across that site. We need to start a "Show Us Your Tits" fund or something. I've got a dollar.

(( o Y o )

sorry i couldnt help it

[astro]

Cute and flirtatious females generally get what they want.

It's nature's way, don't interfere.

[white-tigeress]

This cannot be true :-)

[Dragonblink]

*snif* And I couldn't even get my loyal fans (tm) to contribute $40 so's I could register a domain name. The humanity!

I've found that people who don't have a lot of money to spare have little sympathy for people who have a lot more, and blow it. Like I, Southerncalifornis nonautomobilis, have exactly zero sympathy for, say, the acquaintance of mine who was pissed off at her dad for surprising her with a brand new Camry. "But I wanted an Explorer! I don't want to drive a Camry!"

It's strange the kind of hostility that can arise from this lack of sympathy. I'm guilty of it myself. I saw that Save Karyn page and got pissed. "Stupid spoiled bitch! Bail your own ass out of debt! Get a crappy retail job like the rest of us!"

Should I be angry? Naw. It's no skin off my ass if people want to give her money instead of, say, giving it to charities etc. Am I still pissed? Yup. Greedy brat.

[RedDevil]

It was this sort of bollocks that pissed me off:

"Together, we can banish credit card debt from my life!"

"TOGETHER WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!"

"I've done my part, now I need you to do yours."

"So this is where you can make miracles happen."

As if this were a serious issue that everyone should make a concerted effort to resolve.

[rising hysteria]
Go on then, give the selfish tart all your money then! Sell all your possessions and send her a cheque! Sell your house! Get your salary paid straight into her account! Go on, what are you waiting for, idiot!?!
[/rising hysteria]

[Stoid]

I read and I listen... and I still don't get it.

This might be a good opportunity for some people to take a look at their reactions and see what information is there for them.

Just a thought.

[Diane]

:::shrug:::

I guess I missed that part that said these people were forced into giving her their money.

JFTR, I think her page "The Daily Buck" should be required reading for anyone trying to live on a budget.

Hee hee, I would send her money just for the laugh.

"Friday, August 9, 2002

Because I can't afford a facial and I need one, I put tomato slices on my face. I heard they make a good face mask. But they burned, so I took them off and rinsed with cold water. I saved myself $100, but my face stayed really red for a while.


Wednesday, August 7, 2002

Tonight I had a friend from out of town come visit. She stayed in a hotel. I went to visit her and took the mini shampoo and bath gel. She'll get more tomorrow. They smell nice.

. . . . .While at the grocery store, I decided to partake in the free samples, and counted it as dinner. I had bread, olive oil, cheese, and a small piece of a deli sandwich. While at the deli counter, I asked if I could sample a few salads as well. I opted for the vegetable salads because aside from my neighbor's tomatoes, I haven't eaten any veges in a while. The salads were good, but I pretended that I didn't like them so I wouldn't have to buy any.

Monday, July 22, 2002

Today I stole the top off of some girl's water bottle at work because I lost mine. She's one of those girls who throws her bottle away when she's done, one of those girls I USED to be. Except she wears her sunglasses at her desk and I would never do that.

Thursday, July 18, 2002

Tonight I went out for drinks with "Nice Guy But Not My Type." NGBNMT is really nice, like me. But he's not my type. I went out with him for drinks because I knew he'd take me to a place that served food and I'm hungry. So I had some nice conversation, scored a bit of liquor AND some grub. That was nice. ATTENTION: NGBNMT IS AWARE THAT HE IS NOT MY TYPE. I'M NOT LEADING HIM ON.

. . . . I've taken him to the vet and they always tell me he's fine - he just likes to barf. So, oh well. Back to Friskies we go. He eats it back up anyway after he reguritates it, so it's not like I have to buy twice the amount.

[Gomez]

What's the problem here? No-one's being forced to give this woman money. She's not taking money that would otherwise go to charity. Do you people honestly think that someone who supports a charitable cause would visit Karen's website and think "Hmm, well I could give my twenty bucks to Oxfam this week, or I could send it to this dippy chick on the other side of the internet with whom I am in no way affiliated. Yeah, no contest, Karen get's my vote "

People who are giving are giving of their own volition. They want to, for whatever reason. How the fuck does that make Karen selfish?

Damn, y'know what? I'm going to give her a fucking dollar right now. Just to counteract the excruciating self righteousness of this thread.

[kittenblue]

Gee, when I asked for advice on how to raise a quick $2000, this was one of the ideas someone here suggested!

Of course, I have but two pairs of shoes (Payless and KMart) and the only designer label I wear is Hanes Her Way, but I really wish I had done this!

However, I chose the yard sale route, and raised exactly $44 dollars. Should have bought better stuff to begin with, I guess.

[Kayeby]

Karyn was incredibly irresponsible with her money and has chosen an equally irresponsible way of bailing herself out - getting other people to help her out. But I can see why people would donate; her website is funny and earnest, and she's cute. People are probably giving her money because she's made them laugh and they won't miss the buck - it's not charity; it's entertainment disguised as charity.

[butter pie]

I don't care about the money, do I have to spend myself $20k into debt before I can get on the TV too?? HELLO, cute fiscally responsible chick here...?!

Maybe I should just start a fund where after I get a certain amount of $ I post photos of me in a bikini. People have been asking me to do that for years.