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Old 09-01-2002, 02:48 PM
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Classical & Heavy Metal/Hard Rock Music- together

Can anyone tell me if there has been a merge of Classical Music & Heavy Metal/Hard Rock have come together, played and recorded a CD.

I know of two:

Metallica and San Francisco Symphony - S&M CD, which I have.
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The Scorpions and Berlin Orchestra/Symphony - I don't know the title, but I'm interested on how this sounds, I limke the Scorps.

I always thought the Classical and Heavy Metal/Hard Rock would sound good together.

Any more.
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Old 09-01-2002, 03:06 PM
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I wouldn't call it "Heavy Metal" but there was a symphonic Pink Floyd album I saw once... Never heard it though.... quick amazon search yields....

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Old 09-01-2002, 03:40 PM
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The album Dead Winter Dead by Savatage has a lot of classical interludes, and metal/orchestra songs.

When looking at the music structure of (mainly prog) rock, there are a lot of similarities with classical music. It's no wonder the two mix well. Listen to Beethoven: he was the metal composer of his time.
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Old 09-01-2002, 04:28 PM
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When looking at the music structure of (mainly prog) rock, there are a lot of similarities with classical music. It's no wonder the two mix well. Listen to Beethoven: he was the metal composer of his time.
Definitely.

Prog metal is alive and well, if a little hard to find. The only two bands that I know of that I would put in that genre are Tool and The Dillinger Escape Plan. Although they both use typical instrumentation (guitar, bass, drums, and vocals), they have very complex song structures.

There's a symphonic album of Led Zeppelin songs as well.
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Old 09-01-2002, 06:12 PM
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Well, well, last I heard bands like Rush and Dream Theater were still rocking hard, and they're definitely "prog" in my book.

Of course, Tool is awesome. Gotta check out those Dillinger guys, I suppose!
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Old 09-01-2002, 06:13 PM
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You obviously need to check out Apocalyptica.

These guys cover Metallica, Pantera, Sepultura, and some others with some seriously plugged-in cellos. I think you'll really enjoy it. Plenty of full-song samples on their website.
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Old 09-01-2002, 06:22 PM
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Ah, good suggestion! Their Metallica covers are just awesome.
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Old 09-01-2002, 08:14 PM
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What about G'N'R's "November Rain"? Didn't they use an orchestra in that?
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Old 09-01-2002, 08:20 PM
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Well, yeah, but if we're gonna count every Michael Camen orchestration, we're gonna be here all night!

I can name Mchael Camen participations in GNR songs, Queensryche songs, Rush songs, Bryan Adams songs...
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Old 09-01-2002, 09:10 PM
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Another one is Deep Purple and the London Philharmonic's Concerto for Group & Orchestra (rather you than me)
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Old 09-01-2002, 11:59 PM
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Of course, Tool is awesome. Gotta check out those Dillinger guys, I suppose!
Definitely. I only have their self-titled EP, but it's totally awesome, even if it does take a while to get into.
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Old 09-02-2002, 09:17 AM
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Did Robert Plant & Jimmy Page do some Led Zep music with an orchestra?
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Old 09-02-2002, 09:23 AM
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I wonder how AC/DC would sound played with an Orchestra or Symphony.

Always thought Metallica would sound good with their music done with the Symphony, I have heard a couple of Scorpions with a orchestra on "Rock You Like A Hurricane" and "Wind Of Change", that was really good.

I've heard "November Rain", by GnR.

But, I'm talking about a whole catalog of music by a band done with a Symphony, or Orchestra.

I do like Tool, need to check more on them.
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Old 09-02-2002, 09:49 AM
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At one stage, there were rumours of a full album of classical verions of Rush songs, but I haven't heard anything about it in a year or two.
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Old 09-02-2002, 11:49 AM
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The merge makes perfect sense, since classical guitar was a major component of metal guitar. Take a close listen to some of the stuff that was big in the early 80s.
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Old 09-02-2002, 02:08 PM
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Two words. Yngwie Malmsteen. Seek him out, and your question will be answered.
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Old 09-02-2002, 02:33 PM
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In the album Classic Case, the London Symphony Orchestra plays the music of Jethro Tull. Since Tull won a Grammy for best heavy metal artist, this fits.
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Old 09-02-2002, 03:26 PM
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One I haven't heard in years: Mass in F Minor by The Electric Prunes. I thought it was great back in 1970 or so, but YMMV.
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Old 09-02-2002, 03:31 PM
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RealityChuck - I was working for a radio station when A Classic Case came out. We had it labled as "Freight Elevator Music".
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Old 09-03-2002, 05:42 AM
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Check out:

Therion: "Theli"
Sobre Nocturne: "Serpentine Dreamweaver"
Devil Doll: any, especially "The Sacrilege Of Fatal Arms"

I highly recommend that you go to www.darksymphonies.com and sign up for their mailing list. They sell a lot of symphonic and eclectic metal music. Their catalog updates describe most of the releases in good detail and I'm sure you'd find something that interests you.
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Old 09-03-2002, 08:53 AM
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Well Coldie got Savatage, but he forgot to go the other way and say Trans Siberian Orchestra. Some of the guys, though I don't know which ones, from Savatage do TSO as well. I only have one album that I haven't really listened to. I'm thinking about going to one of the shows that'll be in Baltimore around X-Mas.

Helloween also does classical pieces on a number of their albums, usually as the first song. Golden Earring has used classical musicians on a few albums as well. I also understand the Manowar has done the same thing on their latest.

I'd really like to hear some Motorhead done by an orchestra, that would be intersting.
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Old 09-03-2002, 01:36 PM
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I want to here the artist, perform with the symphony,
ala Metallica S/M CD.

I want to here Ozzy/Black Sabbath
and
AC/DC

the other suggestions were good, I'll check them out.
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Old 09-03-2002, 01:48 PM
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At one stage, there were rumours of a full album of classical verions of Rush songs, but I haven't heard anything about it in a year or two.
Rumor no more -- go to amazon.com and search for "string quartet rush"

Last year [b]Yes{/b] released their latest CD "Magnification", recorded with a full orchestra. (They got sick of replacing keyboard players every two years, I guess.) They even took the orchestra out on the road with them.

And who could forget the infamous 1979 tour by Emerson, Lake & Palmer where they spent a month touring with orchestra, with heavy emphasis on "spent". They lost a fortune and broke up for 12 years as a result.
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Old 09-03-2002, 01:51 PM
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Old 09-03-2002, 02:00 PM
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Dave Lombardo (Ex Slayer) did some classical stuff. Vivaldi - The Meeting is 100% classical (symphony type stuff) with Dave on Drums.

I agree with the Therion and Trans-Siberian Orchestra suggestions.

None of these are artists with a full symphony but definitely good stuff.

NP: Amon Amarth - The Crusher
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Old 09-03-2002, 02:53 PM
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Hm. Scatterbrain and the Great Kat both did classical stuff on their albums, if you can put up with the 80's hair metal hokeyness...
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Old 09-03-2002, 05:32 PM
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I have Metallica's S&M and the Scorpions with the Berlin Philharmonic.

I prefer the Scorpions but both albums are good.

I also have a weird album called Angelica, which is a fusion of classical/opera music with rock guitars! Steve Vai and Eric Johnson are both on it.

It is quite difficult to find this album now, so if you have a problem, get in touch and I'll see if I can help!

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