The Straight Dope

Go Back   Straight Dope Message Board > Main > Cafe Society

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-23-2003, 07:16 AM
plrumme plrumme is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Le Petit Mort

In Huxley's Brave New World he writes of Calvin Stopes and His Sixteen
Sexophonists. At one point in the song 'There ain't no Bottle in all the world like that dear little Bottle of mine', when the whole group reaches the climax, all of the Sexophonists 'wailed like melodious cats under the moon, moaned in the alto and the tenor registers as though the little death were upon them'. A brilliantly funny passage, but it contains a riddle.

Do you, or does perhaps anyone else, know if in Huxley's day the expression 'le petit mort' was used to mean the experience of dying it
is said we all have when we have an orgasm?

Would be glad for any insight.
Reply With Quote
Advertisements  
  #2  
Old 02-23-2003, 07:33 AM
big_yellow_kingswood big_yellow_kingswood is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
I seem to remember a reference to that phrase as coming from a shakspearian play.

Still, that reference was a Kid'n'Play movie...
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-23-2003, 10:10 AM
TVS TVS is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
I've heard the expression (the little (feminine) death) in reference to the big O before. The first time was in an Xmen comic. Gamit called some woman le petite mort. Imagine the scandal when Wizard magazine mentioned that it was a slang term for an orgasm.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-23-2003, 04:46 PM
Lisa-go-Blind Lisa-go-Blind is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Kind of off-topic, but I've heard that "le petit mort" is only used as slang for orgasms in English-speaking countries, even though it is in French. It supposedly means nothing to the French beyond the literal meaning.

Can any French/Canadian/Belgian/Algerian/Senegalese people verify this?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-20-2003, 07:09 AM
Max Carnage Max Carnage is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
So here I am reading book 9 of A Series of Unfortunate Events, and I come across (no pun intended) this passage that made me do a double take:

"Like most French expressions--"ennui," which is a fancy term for severe bordom, or "la petite mort," which describes a feeling that part of you has died--"deja vu" refers to something that is usually not very pleasant...." I had to go online to verify that "la petite mort" meant what I thought it meant.

Geez, I love Lemony Snicket!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-20-2003, 12:56 PM
The Chao Goes Mu The Chao Goes Mu is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Yep, Le Petite Mort, "the little death" refers to either male or female orgasm.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-20-2003, 05:00 PM
Exapno Mapcase Exapno Mapcase is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: NY but not NYC
Posts: 20,943
I found several sites that claimed that the French erotic novelist Georges Bataille invented the term, for his novel Madame Edwarda.

Here is the Google translation of one such page.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-20-2003, 07:46 PM
eunoia eunoia is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
un mort - a dead man

une morte - a dead woman

une mort - a death

le petit mort - the short dead man

la petite mort - "the little death", used in French as well as a euphemism for orgasm, probably of literary origin
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Send questions for Cecil Adams to: cecil@chicagoreader.com

Send comments about this website to: webmaster@straightdope.com

Terms of Use / Privacy Policy

Advertise on the Straight Dope!
(Your direct line to thousands of the smartest, hippest people on the planet, plus a few total dipsticks.)

Publishers - interested in subscribing to the Straight Dope?
Write to: sdsubscriptions@chicagoreader.com.

Copyright © 2013 Sun-Times Media, LLC.