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Old 04-18-2003, 07:13 AM
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"Not even your Eisenhower give you no break"??? - COPS theme song

In the theme song for the reality television show COPS, there is a line that sounds to me like:
"Not even your Eisenhower give you no break."
What are they saying?
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Old 04-18-2003, 07:29 AM
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Well, the lyrics on this page are:

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Nobody naw give you no break
Police naw give you no break
Soldier naw give you no break
Not even you idren naw give you no break
My bolding.
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Old 04-18-2003, 07:32 AM
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"Idren" is a Jamaican term for "female friend".
From here.
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Old 04-18-2003, 09:48 AM
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Actually, "idren" can mean male or female friend(s). In this context, it's sort of the Jamaican equivalent of "homeys".
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Old 04-18-2003, 11:34 AM
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Eisenhower???

I admit, though, it's kind of a cool mental image...
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:22 PM
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Fact: Captioners often type what is misheard.
Fact: "Not even your Eisenhower give you no break." is definitely misheard.
Fact: The closed caption of the COPS theme song is mis-captioned "idren naw"
Opinion: I hear "Eisenhower" as well, and confirm your truthful observation.

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In the theme song for the reality television show COPS, there is a line that sounds to me like:
"Not even your Eisenhower give you no break."
What are they saying?
You are correct, "Not even your Eisenhower give you no break." is the actual lyric.
Also consider the entire stanza. Enforcers such as para-military and military is the topic. Not friends and lovers. Disregarding the double negative "nah give ya nah break" the point is uniformed gangsters and other thugs in blue organized to legally carry and brandish firearms and other weapons such are dogs and batons, and coordinated by radio can not be depended on to cut perpetrators slack - "give you no break." Police nor Soldier, not even Eisenhower as military commander or our U.S. president.

And that's the straight dope, so get it Dwight, D.
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:56 PM
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Fact: Captioners often type what is misheard.
Fact: "Not even your Eisenhower give you no break." is definitely misheard.
Fact: The closed caption of the COPS theme song is mis-captioned "idren naw"
Opinion: I hear "Eisenhower" as well, and confirm your truthful observation.



You are correct, "Not even your Eisenhower give you no break." is the actual lyric.
Also consider the entire stanza. Enforcers such as para-military and military is the topic. Not friends and lovers. Disregarding the double negative "nah give ya nah break" the point is uniformed gangsters and other thugs in blue organized to legally carry and brandish firearms and other weapons such are dogs and batons, and coordinated by radio can not be depended on to cut perpetrators slack - "give you no break." Police nor Soldier, not even Eisenhower as military commander or our U.S. president.

And that's the straight dope, so get it Dwight, D.
Nope, that is an opinion too.

Looking at other lyric places, virtually all agree on "Not even you idren naw give you no break".

As the band that made the song is from Jamaica (No, it was not Bob Marley you clueless youtubers, but Inner Circle), the most simple explanation is that that line has its origins in the Rastafarian world of Jamaican patois, and indeed:

http://www.frommers.com/destinations...093020558.html
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The patois has been embellished and altered with the growth of Rastafarianism. Rastas have injected several grammatical concepts, one of the most apparent being the repeated use of "I" -- a reminder of their reverence of Ras Tafari. "I" is almost always substituted for the pronoun "me." It is also substituted for many prefixes or initial syllables. Thus, "all right," becomes "I're," "brethren" becomes "Idren," and "praises" becomes "Ises." The Rastafarian changes of Jamaica's patois are a recent phenomenon and have not always been adopted by non-Rastas.

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Old 08-04-2013, 10:32 PM
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You are correct, "Not even your Eisenhower give you no break." is the actual lyric.
I just listened to it (several times actually) and it's pretty clearly "not even your idren now give you no breaks". I can't get Eisenhower out of it.
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:18 PM
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zomg! the neighborhood is being overrun by Eisenhowers!
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Old 08-05-2013, 12:17 AM
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Old 08-05-2013, 12:59 AM
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Rastafarian Generals knows this is true.
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Old 08-05-2013, 01:54 AM
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But he always seemed so likeable...
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Old 08-05-2013, 01:57 AM
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Actually it's "Not even Steve Yzerman will give you no break". I am absolutely certain
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:31 AM
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Eisenhower???

I admit, though, it's kind of a cool mental image...
Mental image of Eisenhower in Crip colors, earrings, bandana on his head, & earrings.

Yikes.
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:06 AM
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Actually it's "Not even Steve Yzerman will give you no break". I am absolutely certain
Now this makes sense visually. I picture a dreadlocks toting Yzerman bearing down on the ice towards a criminal, hockey stick up. He shoots, he scores! Justice served; the crowd goes wild!

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Old 08-05-2013, 09:11 AM
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You never know with some Presidents: http://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/531...N.78182301.jpg
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:02 AM
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Those lyrics are still far more intelligible than what they were singing on All In The Family's "Those Were The Days".

Even when they re-recorded it and emphasized the last obscured line, you couldn't tell what they were singing.
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:27 AM
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Opinion: I hear "Eisenhower" as well, and confirm your truthful observation.
Hmm...I just listened to it now, and it sounds like "idren" (with an "eye" sound for the first syllable.) I don't hear Eisenhower at all, although I can sort of see how somebody might hear that.
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:20 AM
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I find that EYE-dren NAH resembles EYE-zen-HOW-er, in the context of the song where it's being somewhat muddied by being sung rather than spoken, in an unfamiliar accent, and with instruments in the mix. To someone who had no clue that idren even existed as a word, making it out as Eisenhower seems pretty reasonable to me.
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Old 08-05-2013, 12:12 PM
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To someone who had no clue that idren even existed as a word, making it out as Eisenhower seems pretty reasonable to me.
Aside from that it makes no sense, of course.
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Old 08-05-2013, 01:18 PM
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And here I was, thinking it was a Lord of the Rings reference to when Saruman betrayed the Fellowship. "Not even your Isengard give you no break" (The d is not fully vocalized, as is often the case in sung lyrics.)
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Moved to Cafe Society. Please note this this thread was started in 2003.

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Old 08-05-2013, 06:51 PM
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Those lyrics are still far more intelligible than what they were singing on All In The Family's "Those Were The Days".

Even when they re-recorded it and emphasized the last obscured line, you couldn't tell what they were singing.
You mean "Gee, our old LaSalle ran great?"
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:21 AM
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Mental image of Eisenhower in Crip colors, earrings, bandana on his head, & earrings.
Would he also be wearing earrings?
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:28 PM
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:43 PM
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Old 12-30-2016, 09:48 PM
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Idren, true meaning.

After reading the post, and replies to this subject I about busted out laughing so hard, I knew my eyes would water up so bad, I would appear to be crying. I apologize if I sound insensitive.
But I knew I was hearing right when I heard "idren" and was looking it up when this forum popped up. I had to read it several times to believe my eyes.
Anyway, apparently, the word "idren" is of Jamaican vocabulary meaning woman, man, friend/s, family etc. Not to mention, I had my caption on, on my television to make sure I wasn't mistaken myself. My television showed "idren", as I was almost positive I had heard. I have NEVER heard Eisenhower referred to in regards to this song until just about 25 minutes ago when I came across this site.
You can search under "ask.com", there are a number of sites for lyrics, "youtube" music with lyrics included, and more innumerable sites than I could count.
Almost any question you have about almost any things you can imagine can be found online. If you can post, you have the ability to look into things of this nature, for future reference.
I do hope that I have helped you for any future queries in regards to anything in the future. The worst that could happen is that your inquiry is so incredible, you may not find anything regarding the subject.
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Where is your eisenhower now, moses?
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Old 12-30-2016, 10:05 PM
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Well, the question was completely answered in 19 minutes. Back in 2003. And that includes a link to Metrolyrics, the same site that comes up as the first lyrics site if you put the question in Ask.com.

And Ask.com also comes up with amirite.com, which includes the Eisenhower interpretation as an example of misunderstood song lyrics. The site gets the correct lyrics wrong, but hey, that's what you deserve for using Ask.com. That site doesn't show up in the top 100 in Google.
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Old 12-30-2016, 10:15 PM
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Don't even get me started on the Flintstones theme.

"Let's ride with the family down the street,
Through the *mumblemumblemumblemumble*"

Yeah, I know it's "Through the courtesy of Fred's two feet," but it was unintelligible to me as a kid growing up in the 60s.
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Bad cops, bad cops.
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