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Old 07-30-2003, 11:10 AM
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OOTP baseball online league - We have an opening. Anyone want to join?

The Unofficial SDMB OOTP Baseball League currently has an opening and we're looking for an owner to fill it.

For those who don't know, OOTP stands for Out of the Park. It is a baseball simulation game that puts you in the general manager's seat. Their website is here. In short, you have your 25 man roster, plus three levels of minor leagues (AAA, AA, A). You draft and develop players, sign free agents, offer and negotiate trades, set promotion dates, manage your team's finances, etc. The game is available through the website.

We currently have an eight team league (really two four-team leagues) in our second season. We're currently using version 4, but we'll be switching to version 5 at the end of the current season. In addition, there is a possibility that we'll be adding two more teams at the end of the current season as well.

The franchise that is currently available is the Kingston franchise. It is in a bit of the dumps. They are currently in last place in the Zotti League, doing their best Detroit Tigers impersonation. They are currently 18-41. You may not be able to win the Cecil Cup with them this year, but if you've ever wanted the challange of taking a franchise from the bottom to the top, then this is the team for you. At the season's end, you'll be able to rename and relocate the franchise, if you so wish.

The basic parameters are:
  • Fictional players
  • Modern-style play
  • No salary cap

All we ask is that if you join that you participate actively. We simulate two week's worth of games each Wednesday night.

If anyone has any questions about the game, feel free to post them and I (or other OOTPing Dopers) will answer them.

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Old 07-30-2003, 01:22 PM
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It sounds interesting, but I need to read up a bit more on the rules, which I will do tonight.
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Old 07-30-2003, 01:40 PM
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Do so.

Many people here know that I'm a true seam-head baseball guy. I've written analysis columns for some websites and have done independent analysis just for fun.

This is the most fascinating game on earth. It simulates player development, acquisition, clutch performance, team finances, attendance, everything.

It's astonishing.
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Old 07-30-2003, 02:13 PM
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I think I remember expressing interest in this when you started, and I completely forgot about it. I'll do some reading about it and throw my name into the ring as a possibility.
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Old 07-30-2003, 02:17 PM
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JC, wait till you get familiar with OOTP5. It's a huge step up.

Wilson, I think you'd like it. It's a lot of fun. Check out the game's website at www.ootpdevelopments.com, have a look around our league's site linked above by Zev, and definitely if you have any questions let us know. We'd love to have you.
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Old 07-30-2003, 06:41 PM
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I'd like to be considered, but if someone else also decides to be in, feel free to give them the spot.
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Old 07-30-2003, 06:44 PM
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Hmm. I made it sound like I was dictating, there. What I MEANT to say was "I'd love to be in the league, but make me an alternate-type person for this franchise. If you can't find anyone else, I'd gladly take it, but I think other people should be introduced to this wonderful game, so if you think there are other fitting candidates, you should give it to them over me."

Much better.
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Old 07-30-2003, 06:54 PM
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There's always expansion, you know.
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Old 07-30-2003, 06:56 PM
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I vote for giving it to Flymaster just to make sure the franchise doesn't languish under AI control for more than one sim.
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Old 07-30-2003, 07:38 PM
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I hope y'all don't mind. I posted this thread to another board. Lot's of serious seamheads and OOTP players there! Check it out:

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Old 07-30-2003, 11:27 PM
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I'd like to play, but I'm curious just how the wednesday night thing works. Do you need to be present for an extended period of time every wednesday night, or is it more like typical Fantasy Baseball where you set your lineup anytime beforehand and it runs on its own?
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Old 07-31-2003, 12:20 AM
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I'd like to play, but I'm curious just how the wednesday night thing works. Do you need to be present for an extended period of time every wednesday night, or is it more like typical Fantasy Baseball where you set your lineup anytime beforehand and it runs on its own?
No, you don't have to be present.

After each sim, I post the league file on the league website. Each player downloads the league file, makes changes and then exports the changes to the league server sometime before the next sim. Then when I'm ready to run the next sim, I download everyone's changes and sim the games.

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Old 07-31-2003, 12:28 AM
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Gotcha, so I'm basically the GM and not the coach? Do I decide starting lineups for each game? Do I have control over which players get the most work, and do I decide to promote my minor leaguers? How do the minor leagues work, also simulated games every Wednesday?
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Old 07-31-2003, 07:05 AM
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You're the GM. But you're more like a Billy Beane GM where the manager is completely subservient to your wishes than a Jim Hendry GM where Dusty Baker actually calls the shots.

You set line ups against LHP and RHP. You set defensive replacements and spot starters (and the percentages they start). You set your starting rotation (4 or 5), who your middle relievers vs righties and vs lefties, set up men the same and closers.

You control your minor leagues the same (though you don't have full rosters in the minors) and you control when and if players get moved up or down a level.

You manage the disabled list and make trades, contract extensions, sign free agents, minor league coaches (they have different levels that they can develop different skills in players).

You can set promotions to bring in more money (hat day, bat day, that sort of thing).

It's loads of fun and only as time consuming as you make it.
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Old 07-31-2003, 07:58 AM
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If no one else has officially joined, I'll do it. I figure the best place to learn is with an already pathetic team. Even if I screw up, who would notice.
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Old 07-31-2003, 08:08 AM
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True enough. Email Zev. He's our God.

Mull...it's amazingly entertaining. It's all I can do to not demand we sim a week every two days and burn Zev out.
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Old 07-31-2003, 09:33 AM
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One minor point that I should emphasize:

We are still using version 4 of the game. We will be switching to version 5 (which is the current version) after the season ends.

If you own version 4, then you would be an ideal candidate for the current franchise. If you do not own version 4, then you should consider waiting for next season (since you don't want to go out and purchase version 4 just to have to purchase version 5...)

Please email me at commish@izev.com and indicate if you own version 4 or not. If you have version 4, I'll be more than happy to set up your franchise for you for the next sim. If not, I can put you on reserve for the Kingston franchise if no ver 4 owner shows up or for an expansion franchise.

Zev

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Old 07-31-2003, 10:33 AM
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OK, we've got an owner for the Kingston franchise. Flymaster emailed me that he owns both versions of the game and is familiar with them both; so the job is his.

I've put the matter of expansion for after the season to a vote of the owners and I'll know by the weekend if we're adding teams and how many (two or four).

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Old 07-31-2003, 12:02 PM
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Since I don't own version 4, glad to pass this time around. But, if expansion is agreed to, I would probably buy version 5 and be willing to join.

Unless the expansion fee demanded by owners is in the hundreds of millions.
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Old 07-31-2003, 12:25 PM
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I think we were reasonably leaving it at $95 Mill this time around.

We'll take a check.
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Old 07-31-2003, 12:29 PM
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I hope y'all don't mind. I posted this thread to another board. Lot's of serious seamheads and OOTP players there!
The problem with that is that our little league is a little backwoods by the standards of a serious OOTP player. People are used to flashier websites and more advanced players. I could have posted a notice on the OOTP board too, but I figured we're best served staying within the community.

Anyway, I'm happy to see that Flymaster has taken the reins (will he have time to get a sim in this evening before this week's sim takes place?), and even happier to see that we have two prospective expansion owners in Mullinator and Omni. Time to start thinking about our expansion procedure, I guess.
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Old 07-31-2003, 12:31 PM
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Four more teams!
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Old 07-31-2003, 12:49 PM
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I'd like to be considered for an expansion team, too! I have OOTP 5
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Old 07-31-2003, 01:15 PM
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The problem with that is that our little league is a little backwoods by the standards of a serious OOTP player. People are used to flashier websites and more advanced players. I could have posted a notice on the OOTP board too, but I figured we're best served staying within the community.


Especially since last season's winner was the only non-Doper in the league. We've got Cecil's honor to think of here...

Quote:

Anyway, I'm happy to see that Flymaster has taken the reins (will he have time to get a sim in this evening before this week's sim takes place?),


I'm afraid not. I'd have to reset the team password and upload a new league file. That would render all the other updates that everyone else has done useless. I'm afraid he'll have to sit for one sim.

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Old 07-31-2003, 04:58 PM
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Makes sense. It's just as well, after all, you know how I get when my sim doesn't take! (heh)

And one two-week sim probably won't hurt much. His current season is proooobably shot anyway.

So that's three players showing interest in expansion franchises, one of whom already owns the game. Wonderful! We're definitely going to have to come up with a fair scheme for creating the new teams. I think, personally, that discussion should begin asap (as I guess it will, since the matter itself is already put to a vote), because it may take some time to come up with something workable.

Unless you already have a plan in mind Zev... you always do seem to know about these things. I'll have a look on the forums.
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Old 07-31-2003, 06:00 PM
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Well, even though it sounds like you're set for now with Flymaster and possibly for expansion with Omni and Mullinator, I'd definitely like to throw my name into the hat as well for expansion.
I haven't had a ton of time to read up on it, but from what I'm reading here, it sounds right up my alley. I'm more of a lurker than a poster, but I think WL can vouch for my active nature in two SDMB related fantasy baseball teams this year.
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Old 07-31-2003, 06:32 PM
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I own 5 and would be interested in joining if you end up wanting another owner.
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Old 07-31-2003, 08:40 PM
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And that gives us four expansion teams!

Interleague play!
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Old 08-01-2003, 02:51 PM
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I count 5: Omni, Mullinator, Hugh Jass, Wilson, wolfman.

JC, interleague play may not be as easy as you might think. The in-game schedule generator doesn't support it, and the third-party schedule utilities can be a headache. But I guess that's mostly up to Zev.
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Old 08-01-2003, 10:28 PM
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Another deal (because I'm not cookied on the league board at home and I can't remember my password):

Virginia sends

Beliveau (MR)
Chapparo (3B)
Castelli (LF AAA)
Cokley (SP DL)
Dinwiddie (MR AA)
Camargo (C A)

to Kingston for:

Sargeant (3B)
Boll (SP)
Scull (SP A)
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Old 08-04-2003, 09:42 AM
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OK, the votes are in and we'll expand by four teams for the 2004 season. If you are interested, please email me at commish@izev.com.

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Old 10-04-2003, 07:53 PM
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Time to ressurect this thread...

The 2003 season is now ending (we're in the middle of the playoffs) and we'll be starting the 2004 season in the next week or two. I've heard from three of the people who are interested in teams and am proud to announce that Hugh Jass, Mullinator and Wilson have been awarded franchises. I emailed omniscient but have not had a reply yet (and wolfman has no email address in his profile, so I couldn't contact him).

That leaves up with one opening. If any is still interested in it (that included omniscient and wolfman) please email me at commish@izev.com.

If you have any questions about the game or the league, please feel free to contact me or post it here.

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Old 10-04-2003, 08:14 PM
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I'm interested, and I've emailed you. I'd be a complete newbie, though, and probably pretty clueless. If I play, where do I get the program? Do I just download it off the website, or what? Actually, I'm checking it out on the website right now, so I'll hold my other questions until later. Count me in if you need an owner, though- this stuff sounds right up my alley.
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