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Old 09-22-2003, 12:23 PM
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Let's say you got shot in the thigh and the bullet shattered your femur.

How long would it take to heal? How would it heal? Would they have to put a steel rod in the in the leg? How long would you be in physical therapy? Would you be stuck in a wheelchair, or would yo ube able to get around on crutches at some point? I don't need an exact time frame, but a general one at least would be helpful.
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Old 09-22-2003, 12:58 PM
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Well, a friend of mine shattered her femur in 7 places (her 1300 pound horse landed on her when she fell off while it was jumping). They put it back together with steel rods and pins. I believe she was laid up flat out for 6 weeks recovering from the surgery, in that time she was only supposed to move minimally. Now, about 2-3 months later she is getting around with crutches. I don't know the extent of her PT schedule.

Since she is eager to return to sport I am sure she is doing her excercises and anything else that speeds healing. She was very fit and healthy before the accident, and she antipates a full return to mobility, eventually. And a life of setting off airport metal detectors.
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Old 09-22-2003, 01:09 PM
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I am not familiar with horse-caused injuries.

In combat a hit like that could very well be fatal. A bullet wound is (I think) messier than a horse wound. Lots of high-velocity bullet and bone fragments all looking for large blood vessels and nerves to wreck.

I (untrained as I am) would go for a tourniquet, treat for shock and pray for the helicopter.
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Old 09-22-2003, 01:19 PM
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My GF is an assistant physiotherapist. I asked her almost exactly the same question once. She said it would really depend on the age and general health of the person. After surgery (assuming of course the person survives) the PT would take quite a long time. If you're young and fit, full or near full recovery is possible. She has patients that are very old (60-85) who have shattered bones and they don't recover. Some of her patients have been patients for years for pain.

I would assume (because IANAD) that shattering a major bone like your femur would actually be almost fatal for most people. The bullet would sever several large arteries and unless you're literally inside a hospital you probably wouldn't live 5 minutes with the amount of blood you would lose.

One of my friend's when I was a kid shattered both legs below the knee in a car accident. After 2 years of help, he's walking normally with a slight limp (and some gastly scars from the pins in his bones).
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Old 09-22-2003, 02:41 PM
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Cool! a question I can answer.

First person account follows...

Shattered my femur in a motorcycle accident. Also snapped my tibia in 3 places, broke my pelvic bone in 2 and broke some meta-carpals. Oh, and ruined a damn fine jacket

This was in June of 1987. I was told that the amount of internal bleeding I had would have meant death if the ambulance had been 2 minutes late. The pain was undescribable (so I won't try to describe it).

The surgery took 18 hours. Steel rod with assorted pins and rings elsewhere. The rod stays in for the rest of my life. The hospital stay was about 5 weeks. 3 weeks or so in traction. Lots of physical therapy. Kept the leg on an automatic machine to bend and straighten it slowly for me so the joint woul;d not freeze. had to learn to sit up again, how to stand and walk. All the muscles were wet spaghetti and had to be strengthened all over again. When I could use crutches I went home.

More physical therapy, excruciating pain to bend and straighten the knee, to break up the scar tissue.

Was in a wheel chair for 3 weeks.

Walked with crutches for a month, then used a cane for about
a year.

I set off metal detectors and store security dectors all the time.

MRI's are a fun because the steel soaks up the energy of the scan. The doctors say "If you start to feel a burning sensation tell us and we'll stop"

I have to pre-medicate with massive doses of pennicillan before even a tooth-cleaning at the dentist because of the risk of infection.

I always win the "show your scar" game.
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Old 09-22-2003, 06:14 PM
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When my husband was in physical therapy for an injury, he met a guy who had a hunting accident and was shot through the humerus (upper arm) with a .30-30 rifle. The damage was so extensive that the doctors just ended up closing up the gap without replacing the fragments - they just cleaned it up and fused the shattered ends. He ended up with an arm 3 inches shorter than the other one.

It depends on how severe the injuries are, but I imagine it could easily be worse with a bullet to the femur, since it has to support your weight.
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Old 09-22-2003, 09:07 PM
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Shattering your femur can result in death if you lose too much blood. (You will lose a lot of blood)

At the very least, you'll have a long visit to the OR and lots of hardware in your re-assembled thigh.

Alternatively, if the leg is too torn up they might have to amputate either to save your life, deal with life-threatening infection, or simply because they can't reconstruct enough blood supply and the flesh and bone below the wound starves/suffocates and dies.

In some cases, a hopelessly shattered bone can be replaced by a metal rod - but if not succesful will result in amputation.

Or, if you're very lucky, you will heal with just a lot of hardware in your leg and scars on the outside and have a leg to stand on.

A lot depends on the gun/ammo combination, how it hits, the distances involved, what sort of medical care is available...
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Hi,
I found this thread because I was looking for the answer as well.
1 month ago I was shot in the left leg right above the knee by a 357 magnum revolver. It shattered my femur above the knee and split the bone from my knee to my hip.
I was in traction in the hospital for 1 1/2 weeks then recieved a titanium rod and screws in my leg and surgeons left the bullet and bullet fragments in my leg because of where they are it's risky to try to take them out.
It has been 2 1/2 weeks since leaving the hospital with a walker. At Pt last week I advanced to crutches. It hurts like crazy but it is healing well I heard, I am 40 and healthy.
I'm not sure how long it will take my leg to heal and I still can't walk or bend my knee more than 8 or 10 degrees yet.
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:33 AM
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If you actually die from the injury, you will come back as a zombie.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:46 PM
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I'll ask the guy upstairs. He broke his femur twice. They did bone grafts.
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Old 10-30-2017, 12:32 AM
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It would go something like this...

Well I have a brother who got shot in the femur he was in the hospital for a week and he couldn’t walk for a month, he had to use the crutches and he began walking but he couldn’t run the same and he would have pain
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Old 10-30-2017, 12:43 AM
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A bullet to the femur causes zombies to shamble.
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Old 10-30-2017, 12:55 AM
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I can't believe I missed this thread the first (or second) time around. My grandmother shattered her femur. She fell between a dock and a boat and somehow got her leg crushed between them.
IIRC, it was when I was fairly young. probably 6 or 7, so I don't remember it very clearly. I do remember her having a few surgeries. Including having the rods taken out (which she kept). I also remember she had some kind of battery in her leg, something about circulation.
Like others said, I think the rehab was somewhat quick, at least thinking back 30ish years, I don't recall her being out of commission for that long, but I do think she had a limp for the rest of her life.
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Old 10-30-2017, 02:19 AM
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Some zombies limp.
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:18 AM
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You got shot in the thigh and the bullet shattered your femur.
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:42 AM
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You got shot in the thigh and the bullet shattered your femur.
Altogether.

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Old 10-30-2017, 09:58 AM
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Since the first time around and the first come back from the dead, a pilot acquaintance of mine crashed his airplane on a local road and, among other chaos and destruction, broke his femur (along with other bones).

Surgery followed, not only to put his leg back together but also to remove bits of airplane from him (meanwhile, back in the hangar, the NTSB was finding bits of him in the airplane).

Long rehab followed. He kept his leg, but still walks with a bit of a limp which may be due to other injuries beside the broken bone(s). Regained his medical authorization to fly, but is much more careful not to run out of fuel these days. Also sets off metal detectors a lot.
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:08 AM
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One of my bosses once managed to get his femur broken playing softball. They put him back together with lots of stainless steel screws and coral to patch in the places where the bone was too badly damaged to be re-used. He should, nonetheless, have been back up and around in a couple of months.


Except Nature had other plans. It turned into The Broken Leg From Hell. The tissues swelled up and restricted the blood flow to his leg. Muscle tissue began dying off. They had to open him up and scrape away the dead tissue. Eventually, since they were going in so often, they installed the biological equivalent of a zipper. So much tissue was dying that they were afraid they might have to amputate.

Fortunately, they didn't have to. With some clever surgery and re-routing, they fixed his leg up so that he could walk normally on it. But the multiple operations and everything kept him sidelined for many months.
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Old 10-30-2017, 04:54 PM
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"Coral?"

It's a nice image, for sure.
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Old 10-30-2017, 05:09 PM
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Now this is a proper zombie thread.

Coming back from the dead no less than twice in 14 yrs.
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A bullet to the femur causes zombies to shamble.
The Walking Thread.
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:47 PM
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I shattered my femur in the same car accident that resulted in my spinal cord injury. Despite the fact that I no longer even walk, my femur has been one of the most problematic issues ive dealt with. It was put back together with a rod and several pins. Even tho it was more than 17 years ago, the pain from that injury still radiates thru my body. I still have full sensation throughout my body and I have to be careful with what motions I make. Leaning over and exerting any kind of force (such as bent-over rows) is nearly impossible for me. In addition to that, it periodically get inflamed somehow and renders me nearly unable to move at all. Thankfully tho it's not common and is usually only a few days at a time. Diagnosing any problem is also tricky because MRIs are not an option due to the metal.
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:48 AM
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"Coral?"

It's a nice image, for sure.
Coral.

It's been used since the late 1980s to replace missing bone.

https://www.drugs.com/npp/coral.html

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While coral has been used by the inhabitants of Pacific regions as cutting tools and as the basis of jewelry and amulets, it was not until the mid-1980s that its value in surgery was fully recognized. The natural material derived from the matrix of sea coral serves as an effective substrate for the growth of new bone in areas damaged by trauma or requiring reconstruction. Coral may be more durable than bone and appears to eliminate some of the complications inherent in traditional bone graft surgery.
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