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Old 11-22-2003, 01:32 AM
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What were Kurt Cobain's illnesses?

Hello,

I recently picked up a book called Heavier than Heaven, which is a biography about Kurt Cobain. It detailed how he experinced stomach trouble for a lot of his life.

Does anyone know what stomach problem Cobain had?

Also, does anybody know what mental disorders Cobain suffered from? One disorder commonly reffered to is Bipolar disorder. I am wondering if their is any truth to that.

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Old 11-22-2003, 05:13 AM
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Old 11-22-2003, 05:39 AM
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Who knows. I do know he was a heroin addict.
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Old 11-22-2003, 06:59 AM
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He had bad judgement in women - Courtney Love.
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Old 11-22-2003, 07:23 AM
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He suffered from lead poisening. Enuff to kill him. From the business end of a 12 guage.

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Old 11-22-2003, 08:18 AM
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Without trying to be a smart ass, I think that his major problem was Crohn's disease.
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Old 11-22-2003, 08:20 AM
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He suffered from lead poisening. Enuff to kill him. From the business end of a 12 guage.

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Fuck you! He was a great man.
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Old 11-22-2003, 09:16 AM
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He suffered from lead poisening. Enuff to kill him. From the business end of a 12 guage.
And Grady is....wrong! Kurt used a Remington M-11 20 gauge semiautomatic shotgun to end his life.

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Old 11-22-2003, 11:19 AM
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They didn't say in his biography?

Sounds like a shitty book then.
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Old 11-22-2003, 11:26 AM
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They didn't say in his biography?

Sounds like a shitty book then.

All they said was that he had mysterious stomach troubles, the doctors were mystified.
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Old 11-22-2003, 11:33 AM
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I have nothing to base this on specifically with KC's case...but, speaking generically, opiate addicts will often invent ilnesses and pains that difficult to diagnose ("my back hurts" is another common one) in order to get more pain meds from their doctors.

Oh, and BTW, you're not going to last long around here if you tell people "Fuck you" in forums other than the BBQ pit.
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Old 11-22-2003, 11:48 AM
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I have nothing to base this on specifically with KC's case...but, speaking generically, opiate addicts will often invent ilnesses and pains that difficult to diagnose ("my back hurts" is another common one) in order to get more pain meds from their doctors.
I don't doubt that addicts make up stuff in order to get meds, however, Cobains affliction was, IIRC, inherited as his mother also suffered from the same problem.
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Old 11-22-2003, 11:52 AM
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He may have legimately had Crohn's -- I have no idea. But it seems to me that is something that is pretty readily diagnosed?

When you say his mother suffered from the same...do you mean Crohn's, or do you mean "unidentifiable stomach pains" ?
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Old 11-22-2003, 12:00 PM
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Mouth there are also various other "irritable bowel syndrome" diseases/disorders that are much more difficult to diagnose. A friend of mine has one ever since we got back from Panama. Presumably there is some sort of parasite, but all test keep turning up negative.

They've said, "well, it's not exactly Crohn's"... so they just call it "unidentified irritable bowel syndrome". They still think there's some kind of parasite, but since they can find it, they can't kill it. So they shrug and say "deal with it."

The symptoms are as unpleasant as Crohn's. But he's managed well after modifying his diet to avoid some foods.
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Old 11-22-2003, 12:46 PM
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Crohn's and ulcerative colitis is Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD). Different altogether than Irritable Bowel Syndrome. Crohn's has lesions in the gut wall along the entire digestive tract; UC is only in the large intestine. It is sometimes difficult to diagnose because it flares and goes away, but there are blood tests and telltale signs to look for on colonoscopy for diagnosis. Inflammatory bowel disease is very serious -- it can lead to multiple surgeries, cancer, and a whole host of other problems.

Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) is a harder diagnosis to make. Its aetiology is unclear, but it can be quite debilitating. There are no good treatments for it, either. To my knowledge, it is not associated with any other disease or condition (besides perhaps depression), so it is not as inherently dangerous as IBD. Given that his conditions were "mysterious" and evaded diagnosis, it probably was IBS.

Irritable Bowel Syndrome is often associated with crampy diarrhea. Since opiates are a good pain reliever and reduce bowel motility, I could see how Cobain could get hooked on them. He may have tried to quit and beyond the regular junk withdrawal type stuff to deal with, he may have had a flare up in bowel problems. Sometimes IBS is associated with phases of diarrhea and constipation; the heroin could have helped one and made the other worse. Since he was depressed, it may have been enough to push him over the edge. Hard to say, really.
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Old 11-22-2003, 04:14 PM
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He did sing about eating cancer. If he did it in real life, that could have caused some digestive problems.
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Old 11-22-2003, 05:34 PM
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Wow, I might have the same disease as Kurt Cobain!
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Old 11-22-2003, 06:30 PM
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Wow, I might have the same disease as Kurt Cobain!
You're dead, too!?
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Old 11-23-2003, 01:20 AM
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And let me tell you, it's hard to get a cable line run 6 feet under.

Although I meant crohn's disease.
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Old 11-23-2003, 05:04 AM
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Oh, and BTW, you're not going to last long around here if you tell people "Fuck you" in forums other than the BBQ pit.
He was obviously trolling.
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Old 11-23-2003, 05:06 AM
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You're dead, too!?
I didn't know being dead was a disease.

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Old 11-23-2003, 05:50 AM
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At least it's not catching!
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Old 11-23-2003, 06:13 AM
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I dunno. I think if I was married to that skank, a shotgun would look pretty good to me too.

I might just aim it little different though.
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Old 11-23-2003, 06:29 AM
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Fuck you! He was a great man.
He was a whiney asshole who couldn't handle his fifteen minutes of fame. Me, and ten thousand other wannabe singers would have gladly traded places with him, stomach problems and all (altough, most people would have had the common sense to get rid of Courtney). Its too bad he's dead, 'cause the album after the sucky In Utero would have flopped big, and they would have ended up in the has-been heap with all those other crap 90s alt-rock bands like Soundgarden and Soul Asylum instead of being elevated to Doors-like cult status.
Fuck Cobain.
Krist Novoselic is cool though!


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Old 11-23-2003, 06:49 AM
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Nitro, have you got some kind of disease that causes you to start problems with guys asking simple questions? Kurt Cobain was reported to have stomach problems for years before he died, and this guy wanted to know what's up. Sorry that rubs you the wrong way, although the problem seems to be more of the green-eyed variety. Having offered no answers to the question the OP was asking, shouldn't you leave this thread alone now?
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Old 11-23-2003, 06:55 AM
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Ernest Hemingway was unquestionably a great man and he ate lead out of the end of a shotgun.
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Old 11-23-2003, 08:59 AM
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He was obviously trolling.
My point remains.
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Old 11-23-2003, 09:23 AM
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My point remains.
Your "point" has nothing to do with the OP.

Quit being a jerk.
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Old 11-23-2003, 09:40 AM
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Mind explaining how I am being a jerk? This outta be good...
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Old 11-23-2003, 10:03 AM
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My point remains.
So what? Should his trolling be allowed to go unchallenged?
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Old 11-23-2003, 10:05 AM
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He was a whiney asshole who couldn't handle his fifteen minutes of fame. Me, and ten thousand other wannabe singers would have gladly traded places with him, stomach problems and all (altough, most people would have had the common sense to get rid of Courtney). Its too bad he's dead, 'cause the album after the sucky In Utero would have flopped big, and they would have ended up in the has-been heap with all those other crap 90s alt-rock bands like Soundgarden and Soul Asylum instead of being elevated to Doors-like cult status.
Fuck Cobain.
Krist Novoselic is cool though!


Jon
He was very mentally ill, he had depression and some other mental problems(what, exactly, is currently known to me, but he did have problems). Also, their is a valid case for Love being the perpetrator of his death, but unfortunately the case for it was closed.
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Old 11-23-2003, 11:40 AM
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So what? Should his trolling be allowed to go unchallenged?
If someone is being a dick, a mod will usually deal with it. You can do what you want to. Just take it as friendly advice.
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Old 11-23-2003, 02:10 PM
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Mind explaining how I am being a jerk? This outta be good...
Good? Not really.

I meant Nitroglycerin, not mouthbreather, and got confused on who posted what. Lack of caffiene and whatnot.

My apoligies, mouthbreather. You were being intelligent and helpful.


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Old 11-23-2003, 02:47 PM
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He was a whiney asshole who couldn't handle his fifteen minutes of fame. Me, and ten thousand other wannabe singers would have gladly traded places with him, stomach problems and all (altough, most people would have had the common sense to get rid of Courtney). Its too bad he's dead, 'cause the album after the sucky In Utero would have flopped big, and they would have ended up in the has-been heap with all those other crap 90s alt-rock bands like Soundgarden and Soul Asylum instead of being elevated to Doors-like cult status.
Fuck Cobain.
Krist Novoselic is cool though!
I'm glad you can pass such judgment on people with mental illness. From all accounts I've heard, Kobain was a nice enough guy who really couldn't handle the fame. I used to think that it's whiny of rocks stars and celebrities to complain about their fame, but I think there are some who are wholly unprepared for it, and Kurt Kobain was one of these people. I would not ever want to trade places with him. If you think it's fun being a mentally fucked-up artist with stomach problems, then you must possess a serious lack of empathy.

As for In Utero, I'm not even a big Nirvana fan, but if you think it was a sucky album...then I must really question your taste in rock music. In my opinion, it musically surpassed Nevermind. And if album three did completely flop, Nirvana was already a legend. Smells Like Teen Spirit was firmly established as a rock milestone, taking us out of 80s-hair-rock into 90s-alt-rock. Like it or not, Nirvana would be legends no matter what happened.
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Old 11-23-2003, 02:54 PM
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Also, their is a valid case for Love being the perpetrator of his death
No, there isn't. There are only harebrained conspiracy theories which fall apart easily upon examination.
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Old 11-23-2003, 03:36 PM
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Nitro, have you got some kind of disease that causes you to start problems with guys asking simple questions? Kurt Cobain was reported to have stomach problems for years before he died, and this guy wanted to know what's up. Sorry that rubs you the wrong way, although the problem seems to be more of the green-eyed variety. Having offered no answers to the question the OP was asking, shouldn't you leave this thread alone now?

Aww..you're right. I'm not really a dick. I always seem to get uncontrolably anal when someone says how great Cobain was. I loved (and still do) love Bleach, and then I watched as they became taken over by the corporate machine. In fact, one of the greatest all time punk-rock moments was when Nirvana was talking shit about Axl Rose (See, he said dicky insensitive things at the wrong times too ) at that awards show. A few days after that, Kurt was all remorseful and apologetic. That did it for me. I saw that they were more into playing the corporate game instead of remaining true to their ideals. THATS what rubs me the wrong way.

Anyway, I shouldn't have posted that, and I apologize. It was still early in the morning and I hadn't had my coffee yet. When I saw the Op's response "Fuck you! He was a great man", I just typed something off the cuff without really thinking about it.

While I'm hijacking this thread.......I gotta say that Krist IS a great man. He's actually taking his ideals (whatever they might be, I don't know) and entering public service so he can try to actually do something about the country's problems instead of just bitching and whining about them like 99% of all the other blowhard punks from the 80s and 90s (Jello Biafra and Joey Shithead being two other exceptions).

Again, Sorry for being an asshole.

Jon
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Old 11-23-2003, 10:44 PM
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Without trying to be a smart ass, I think that his major problem was Crohn's disease.
Oddly enough, Pearl Jam guitarist Mike McCready also suffers from Crohn's disease. Like Cobain, McCready used to "self-medicate" with illicit drugs, but was fortunately able to get clean and find some more successful medical treatments. He is now involved in raising money for Crohn's research.
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Old 11-24-2003, 05:06 AM
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Porno-rocker El Duce (of the infamous Mentors) gave interviews in which he stated that Love tried to hire him to kill Cobain. Granted, the man was a angel-dust/alcohol addict and put out videotapes of himself masterbating to porno mags, spraying Raid in his mouth during while drunk, and coaxing groupies to urinate on him in front of crowds, but he DID pass a polygraph test.

Shortly after going public with his claims, he was found dead, apparently run over by a train.

Did he pass out drunk on the train tracks or did someone connected to Courtney Love give him a little push? You be the judge.
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Old 11-24-2003, 05:14 AM
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Porno-rocker El Duce (of the infamous Mentors) gave interviews in which he stated that Love tried to hire him to kill Cobain. Granted, the man was a angel-dust/alcohol addict and put out videotapes of himself masterbating to porno mags, spraying Raid in his mouth during while drunk, and coaxing groupies to urinate on him in front of crowds, but he DID pass a polygraph test.
...Which proves only two things: 1) polygraph tests are not even close to perfect, which is old news, and 2) the guy was so insane that he may have believed what he was saying. Even if polygraph tests WERE perfect, they wouldn't catch someone who was so nuts he believed whatever crap he was spewing.
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Old 11-24-2003, 07:02 AM
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According to the religious tract with Cobain's picture on the front I found in a public restroom last night, his affliction was that he didn't turn to Jesus to fill the "aching void in his life."

"Kurt didn't have the answer to happiness in life," it says here. True enough.
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Old 11-24-2003, 02:36 PM
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the album after the sucky In Utero would have flopped big, and they would have ended up in the has-been heap with all those other crap 90s alt-rock bands like Soundgarden and Soul Asylum instead of being elevated to Doors-like cult status.
What colour is the sky on the world where Soundgarden and Nirvana can be equated to Soul Asylum?
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Old 11-24-2003, 03:44 PM
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What colour is the sky on the world where Soundgarden and Nirvana can be equated to Soul Asylum?
What are you talking about? They were all indie band turned multi-platinum major label artists.

Aside from that, most of that whole 90s Seattle thing was the direct descendent of 80s Minneapolis indie scene that Soul Asylum was a part of along with the Replacements and Husker Du. If you can't hear any similarities between Twin/Tone era Soul Asylum and Nirvana, you must be deaf, or someone who thinks "Runaway Train" was their debut single.

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Probably he had one or more food intolerances. These were unknown in earlier times or hard to diagnose (and even today, 2014). Some of them are hereditary, and often they are just diagnosed as IBS. As stated above, belly cramps can successfully be stopped with opioid medication. A strict diet is often hard to follow, so having some heroin is much easier. By the way: fructosis intolerance (intolerance to fruit and vegetables and other sugars) can cause depression. Poor guy...

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Old 06-21-2014, 08:36 PM
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Probably he had one or more food intolerances. These were unknown in earlier times or hard to diagnose (and even today, 2014). Some of them are hereditary, and often they are just diagnosed as IBS. As stated above, belly cramps can successfully be stopped with opioid medication. A strict diet is often hard to follow, so having some heroin is much easier. By the way: fructosis intolerance (intolerance to fruit and vegetables and other sugars) can cause depression. Poor guy...
Thanks for the update(11 years on even). Are you a doctor or scientist who studies these kind of problems?
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Old 06-21-2014, 08:38 PM
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There's also a theory that playing guitar left-handed added to his depression. Yeah, it's a Cracked article, but it's presented as conceivable.

It's #4 here.
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Old 06-21-2014, 09:38 PM
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I.t's B.ull S.hit. IBS is just the official name for the medical community shrugging its collective shoulders and telling you to move along please. (Yes, I've been "diagnosed" with the condition myself)

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Old 06-21-2014, 09:40 PM
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Aside from that, most of that whole 90s Seattle thing was the direct descendent of 80s Minneapolis indie scene that Soul Asylum was a part of along with the Replacements and Husker Du. If you can't hear any similarities between Twin/Tone era Soul Asylum and Nirvana, you must be deaf, or someone who thinks "Runaway Train" was their debut single.
I wish nitroglycerine was still posting. I want to ask him his opinion of the new Katy Perry single.
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Old 06-21-2014, 09:41 PM
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A strict diet is often hard to follow, so having some heroin is much easier
yeah - keep telling yourself that....
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A strict diet is often hard to follow, so having some heroin is much easier.
This is fucking retarded.
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