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Old 02-24-2004, 03:21 PM
Spectre of Pithecanthropus Spectre of Pithecanthropus is offline
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Oscar presenters to receive $20,000 in gifts

I don't usually do this. I'm not one of those people, for example, who believe that we can't send another rocket into space without first feeding every hungry person, housing all the homeless, and solving every other problem on Earth. I don't have a problem with the fact that celebrities are paid millions of dollars for each movie, or even, in some cases, every TV episode they make. They're popular, some even highly talented, and they deserve to be paid well. Acting strikes me as very hard work, when you're lucky enough to be working.

But in God's name, why do they need $20000 gift packages for presenting the Academy Awards? As for the gifts, they are mostly going to be short vacations and dinners--IIRC dinner for 10 at some upscale steakery, a five day trip to some hideaway in the California wine region, and another trip elsewhere. In addition, there were a few tchochke-and-or-clothing type items. WTF? These people are multimillionaires. They own mansions in Malibu and lodges in Aspen. Any one of these people could afford these things with their pocket money. This is where I'd like to see some socially conscious actors, in stead of protesting the war, refuse the gifts and ask that the money be spent for some constructive purpose.

Anyone else feel the same way? Is there another way I should look at this?
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Old 02-24-2004, 03:23 PM
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As for the gifts, they are mostly going to be short vacations and dinners--IIRC dinner for 10 at some upscale steakery, a five day trip to some hideaway in the California wine region, and another trip elsewhere. In addition, there were a few tchochke-and-or-clothing type items. WTF? These people are multimillionaires. They own mansions in Malibu and lodges in Aspen. Any one of these people could afford these things with their pocket money.
Oops, I mean they could afford the Oscar gifts with their pocket money, not necessarily the mansions and lodges.
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Old 02-24-2004, 03:34 PM
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But in God's name, why do they need $20000 gift packages for presenting the Academy Awards?
I know nothing about the awards, so forgive me if this is a stupid question: Do the presenters volunteer, or are the conscripted by their unions or something?

Julie
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Old 02-24-2004, 03:34 PM
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I'd like to see a cite for $20k, but I'm familiar with the handout bags that celebs get at some of these events. They usually include things like an X-Box or perfume or trips to a spa or whatever. It's promotion. The company hopes the celeb will fall in love with Splinter Cell or Lily-Ass spa or whatever. Then when our newly hooked celeb mentions GTA:VC in an interview or someone asks where they "spa", the place/company gets a plug. Likewise, often during the awards show we get a peek at what's in the bag. Instant commercial.
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Old 02-24-2004, 03:36 PM
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Spectre,

to my knowledge, these gifts are donated by the companies that rep those items...so the Napa B&B donates it to get, say, Bruce Willis to come and stay with them. It's really just smart business-impress one high-roller hollywood type and he'll come back with his entorage or family when he's thinking of taking another vacation.

They don't give the gifts because the stars can or cannot afford the gifts, they give them for continued business.

Sam
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Old 02-24-2004, 03:46 PM
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Apparently at the Junos (Grammys for Canadians) they have only one trophy per category. That means, if your rockin' jazz band wins, one of you gets the trophy and the rest have to purchase it ! (Cite: my friend who plays in a rockin' jazz band.)

That made me laugh my arse off the first time I heard it (I love Canada! Where the underappreciation of our artists knows no bounds ...), and it's twice as funny now ...
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Old 02-24-2004, 03:48 PM
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Huh. I would think that the honor of presenting the award for Best Sound Editing on a Children's Musical.
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Old 02-24-2004, 03:50 PM
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Huh. I would think that the honor of presenting the award for Best Sound Editing on a Children's Musical.
Damn. What I meant to say was

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Huh. I would think that the honor of presenting the award for Best Sound Editing on a Children's Musical would be enough.
At least I got the rollyeyes right.
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Old 02-24-2004, 03:50 PM
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$20,000 is the retail value that would be paid by a clueless moron with way more money that sense.

The actual value of these items, based on their cost of materials and labour, is $187.53 per today's exchange rate between the U.S. Dollar and the Vietnamese Dong.
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Old 02-24-2004, 04:00 PM
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The question has been pretty well answered. Items are donated by the companies so that celebs will use them. If they're lucky they'll be pictured with the celebrity on a photo in People magazine. I read that in many cases, the companies have to pay the Academy in order to be allowed to donate their gift.

That all being said, many celebrities are shameless when it comes to getting free stuff. My wife worked for a company that sold a few popular brands of footware. They'd get calls all the time from representatives of A-list celebs asking for free samples. They'd gladly send them too. Having your product show up on a popular sitcom or talk show is worth a fortune.

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Old 02-24-2004, 04:06 PM
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I remembered this story on the Grammy baskets that I think explains it pretty well. It is all about marketing and pushing products.

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Companies are eager to donate their wares because if a celebrity is seen wearing their clothing or using their products it apparently encourages the rest of us to think, "well if Pamela Lee Anderson wears her ugg boots everywhere, then maybe I should get a pair". Hence the hottest item this northern winter are uggies.
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Old 02-24-2004, 04:23 PM
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I know nothing about the awards, so forgive me if this is a stupid question: Do the presenters volunteer, or are the conscripted by their unions or something?

Julie
The winners of the previous year's acting awards traditionally present the award for the same category level to the other-sex winner (e.g. last year's best actor will present to this year's best actress). Presenting an Academy Award is, or at least used to be, considered something of an honor. It's also a chance for a person to be seen by hundreds of millions of movie-goers around the world. I have no information on the lobbying that goes into being invited to be a presenter but being that it's Hollywood I imagine it's fairly intense.
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Old 02-24-2004, 04:28 PM
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During the recent college football bowl season I saw an article on, IIRC, CNNSI, about gift baskets that players would be getting. All the players in the Sugar Bowl, and I would assume the coaches, got gift baskets with things like MP3 players and watches and assorted other things. The value was at least over $1000.
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Old 02-24-2004, 05:26 PM
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Hey, buddy, when celebrities are asked to host an awards show in which celebrities give other celebrities awards just for being celebrities then, goddamn it all, you'd better treat those celebrities like celebrities.

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Old 02-24-2004, 06:23 PM
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I'd like to see a cite for $20k, but I'm familiar with the handout bags that celebs get at some of these events. They usually include things like an X-Box or perfume or trips to a spa or whatever. It's promotion. The company hopes the celeb will fall in love with Splinter Cell or Lily-Ass spa or whatever. Then when our newly hooked celeb mentions GTA:VC in an interview or someone asks where they "spa", the place/company gets a plug. Likewise, often during the awards show we get a peek at what's in the bag. Instant commercial.
N.A.B.D.
I hadn't thought of that, and it does make business sense.

I overheard the $20K figure on some entertainment news show, but I don't know which one.
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Old 02-24-2004, 06:34 PM
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Here's a link for the 2002 Oscars. $20K is indeed the average.

So, in 2002, it was:[quot]The 40 items include:
* Tempur-Pedic mattress, any size. Value up to $1,700
* La-Z-Boy recliners, choice of four. $539 to $1,199
* Three-night stay at Esperanza, a luxury resort in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico. $3,000
* Allsteel #19 office chair. $1,195 to $1,495 (Lou Horvitz will direct the Oscars from one made especially for him.)
* Hewlett-Packard Photosmart 715 camera. $499.99
* Sama sunglasses designed for the Oscars, for women only. $300
* Stainless steel Ebel watch. $1,600 for the women with a mother-of-pearl dial, $1,450 for the men with a white roman dial
* Flying Fig scarf. $300 to $1,100
* 90-minute Godiva chocolate body wrap at Ajune, a New York spa. $175
* Jenni Originals VegeSoy candle, handmade from an exclusive blend of soybean and vegetable waxes. $12.95
* Lancôme gift certificates. $200
* Gift certificate for Sonya Dakar, a problem-skin specialist. $500
* Complimentary teeth whitening at Brite Smile. $600.
* Birkenstock gift certificate. $300
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Old 02-24-2004, 06:35 PM
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Dammit! *grumble* Coding.... *grumble*
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Old 02-24-2004, 09:34 PM
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* Gift certificate for Sonya Dakar, a problem-skin specialist. $500
* Complimentary teeth whitening at Brite Smile. $600.
"One of my fans once sent me a gift basket full of Vidal Sassoon hair-care products. Which was wonderful, but then I looked, and they were all for dry, damaged hair..." - Margaret Cho
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Old 02-24-2004, 09:54 PM
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90-minute Godiva chocolate body wrap at Ajune, a New York spa. $175
Do you mean to tell me that people waste perfectly good Godiva chocolate on body wraps?
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Old 02-24-2004, 10:10 PM
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Do you mean to tell me that people waste perfectly good Godiva chocolate on body wraps?
Well, depending on the type of spa (), they'd still get eaten...
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Old 02-24-2004, 11:24 PM
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Even if they DO spend $20K on gifts, look at the big picture: It's not as if they take 20,000 one-dollar bills, burn them to ashes, and poof the gifts appear. That money is spent. It goes into the pockets of the people/companies who make/sell the gifts. Then those people go out and spend it on other stuff. Then the people who sell them the other stuff go out and spend it again. Etc. This is called an "economy."
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Old 02-28-2004, 09:08 AM
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These people are multimillionaires.
Not all of them. I'd imagine that Keisha Castle-Hughes, Djimon Hounsou, Ken Watenabe, Samantha Morton, Shohreh Aghdashloo, Patricia Clarkson, Fernando Meirelles, Shari Springer Berman, Robert Pulcini, Braulio Mantovani, Steven Knight, Kirsten Sheridan, Naomi Sheridan, Cesar Charlone, Mathieu Chedid and...well, let's just say most if not all of the Foreign Language, Documentary and Short Subject nominees are going to be delighted with their gift baskets.
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Old 02-28-2004, 09:25 PM
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Even if they DO spend $20K on gifts, look at the big picture: It's not as if they take 20,000 one-dollar bills, burn them to ashes, and poof the gifts appear. That money is spent. It goes into the pockets of the people/companies who make/sell the gifts. Then those people go out and spend it on other stuff. Then the people who sell them the other stuff go out and spend it again. Etc. This is called an "economy."

No, those companies donate the gifts to the basket for free. Now lets take the HP digital camera. If they give away 100 of these items they make up difference by upping the price to the public by, (WAG) 2 bucks.


Anyway the producer of the Oscar telecast gets the various presenters. I'm sure that the large talent agencies (like CAA) negotiate for groups of clients. You want Tom Hanks? Fine you need to in so and so. Plus, if you watch the telecast with an upcoming release schedual you may notice that the stars of some upcoming film are there together. And if things go smoothly most of the major studios get a little shot like this.

As for the baskets I'm sure the telecast has a couple of people who's main responsibilty is to get a good basket for this year's presenters and it better be better than last year's basket or HEADS WILL ROLL.
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Old 02-28-2004, 11:05 PM
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(internal quote)Companies are eager to donate their wares because if a celebrity is seen wearing their clothing or using their products it apparently encourages the rest of us to think, "well if Pamela Lee Anderson wears her ugg boots everywhere, then maybe I should get a pair". Hence the hottest item this northern winter are uggies.
Hence the increase in plastic surgery from another of her "pairs".
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