I was watching “Ireland: The Roads Taken with Tommy Makem” on Discovery HD the other day, and God bless him, Tommy seemed to blame the English for everything bad that has happened to the Irish for the last couple of millenia, and it got me to wondering: Are the Irish worth a flip or just a bunch of crybabies? =D
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J. Swift allowed that the infants could fetch a pretty fair price…but I think he was kidding.
Well put, sir.
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Sure, blaming the English for everything is part of the Irish psyche. The same as the English psyche blames either Europe or immigrants (whichever immigrants are common at the time) for everything. And America blames everything on Communism and liberalism. And Islamists blame everything on America. It’s all meaningless, and rejected by the thinking portion of the populace.
(Usual caveat, not that this in itself detracts from the horror of the potato famine, or 9/11, or whatever)
Read the book Trinity By Leon Uris if you want to know why the Irish blame the English. The Republic of Ireland has only been an independent country for less than 100 years, is a beautiful country & is doing quite well. You should visit sometime.
Didn’t you get the memo? We’re blaming everything on terrorism now.
I wouldn’t look on Tommy Makem as representative of “the Irish” (or even some representative sample thereof). He’s a pretty decent entertainer, but he’s got a bitter streak that’s wider than his guitar–viewed sideways. He plays at the Cleveland Irish Cultural Festival each summer and I have gottren to the point where I get up and go find a different venue when he comes on stage. (There are five or six stages in constant use.) The Festival brings in lots of Irish and Irish-American performers, many of them with strong political views (and some without), but no one is nearly as strident as Mr. Makem.
He’s just mean.
I’ve been to Ireland, it’s wonderful. I’ve considered someday moving there.
I’ll be there for Thanksgiving. Can’t wait.
God no, it’s a horrible piece of trash.
Anyway these days a lot of Irish are blaming asylum seekers for everything
:rolleyes:
Haven’t you heard? We saved civilization.
One of the awful things one has to put up with is the whining from one’s erstwhile serfs about the pain in their neck from where your boot heel was until recently resting. Really most tedious, old chap.
Ah, the ‘poor us’ school of Irish History. I’m probably not in the mainstream of Irish thought on this one (being half English, half Northern Irish, born in the Republic) but I have noticed a significant and long awaited slacking off of the idea that the English are to blame for all of Irelands problems. There are a number of blowhard gobshites left who think English people sneak in and piss in their tea when they’re not looking but on the whole, it’s not something that concerns the average citizen. The current bogeyman as mentioned above is asylum seekers, a trend I am no more happy with than blaming the English.
So in answer to the OP: It used to be a little like that, it’s not now save for some idiots, we (in the main) apologise for the idiots.
Dunno. What’s the going rate for flips nowadays?
1 flip was 3 mehs a while ago but I’ve taken my eye of the global flip market.
And a feh?
2.63 flips per cracker in afterhours trading. Personally, I think frogs and krauts give you the most bang for your buck.
We do. And we wank into your cappuccinos.
Hmmmm English cream.
You mean it’s not floating marshmallows?
Yes, the British establishment had a horrible record in Ireland, but The Republics problems today have alot more to do with the Church-led Nanny State it spent the first 70 odd years of its existence in rather than What the British did for the previous 800.