When you think of Ireland do you think ‘those green drunk bastards’ or do you think ‘what a utopia - I wish I were Irish’
Being Irish I can’t think of any particular country that hates us (except the english but they don’t count)
What do the TM think - have you a hatred for the Irish or a particular Irish person or do you love us all to death
I don’t love or hate anybody based on where they happen to live. I do so based on who they are.
Yes, I hate you guys, but with qualification: I hate your drunk moronic countrymen who run and participate in the St. Partick’s Day Parade here in NYC. Same goes for the pigs who do the PR Day Parade.
What a disgrace both these embarassments are to our city.
What, even the French ? 
Blokeychap
There are aspects to Irish life which are not acceptable but these have nothing to do with the Irish as a whole and everything to do with power structures.Same could be said of us.
I like the idea of being able to go fishing without all the licence problems we have in England, I like to expressive use of the language , the ‘thrill’ is a much better way of describing it than our way, at least it leaves an idea of romance unlike ours.It is no coincidence that many of the presenters on English tv have the brogue and that they have speaking roles.
I’m not keen on the US way of ‘over-Oirishing’ things because I think Irish culture is more subtle than that.
I’ve only met one or two Irish I didn’t like but I doubt that anyone would except their mothers.
The ones I have worked with on sites might look rough but I found many were educated to a fairly high level but have found as in the word of the Christy Moore song -
“You’ve gotta get a shovel if you want to go to work”
Even the younger ones who come over seem to have a much more mature attitude than those of the same age here - but then immigrant labour has always had to have lots of drive and initiative.The work rate of these boys and their discipline on the job puts many English to shame and they are often very skillful and knowledgable too.
Mind you some are as daft as boathorses.
American habit of “over-Irishing”? Hah! We do that with EVERTYHING! The first rule they teach in American business colleges is: if something can’t be financially exploited, its valueless. Hell, the Ferengi have nothing on us. 
(If you don’t know who I’m talking about, just forget it.)
To answer the OP: If your talking about the Notre Dame football team, yes I hate you with a passion. If you’re talking about the country, no. And I don’t see why anyone would. From what I hear, the Irish are some of the nicest people around.
Where did the sterotype of the “drunken Irish” ever get started, anyway? Russians drink far more than anyone, but they don’t have it as a national stereotype.
I went to Dublin this past winter and it was the worst three days of my life. But:
- I had a flu so bad I thought I might actually be close to death.
- It was freezing! I’ve never been so cold in my life (and I’m Canadian, for god’s sake)
- We stayed in a hostel that had a) no heat to speak of and b) no hot water at all.
- I didn’t even get to see Bono!
So really, none of these things are the fault of the Irish people. In fact, I’d love to go back and give Ireland a proper try, in warmer weather and after having a flu shot.
My favorite part was was getting on the flight to Dublin from London and looking forward through the cabin of the plane. Every single head in every single seat was a curly haired redhead. Hmmmm, I wonder where this flight is going?
I know a lot of Irish assholes . 
A lot of people have a impression of what being Irish is that has absolutly nothing to do with what we actually are.
We’ve had good PR ( apart from the IRA ) . When you are in any country and meet a lot of the actual people you very quickly realise that they’re very like you and have the same hassles .
BTW : How’s it going blokeychap. Where ya from ? I’m in Dublin.
Miss Gretchen you should come back and I’d be glad to be your escort
Some of them may have Irish ancestors, but those drunk morons are American. As far as I know the Irish spend St. Patrick’s Day watching the drunken Americans make their way down 5th ave on television. ('Course they may be drunk while their doing it, but still.) (And unlike the Americans they’re drunk on GOOD beer.)
Seems like the Irish hate each other enough, no one else has to bother.
Personally I love the Irish, mostly because I love books.
P.S. I’d say the Russians are stereotyped as drunk, too.
Are you kidding? The leading cause of death of adult males in Russia is alcoholism, I think…(don’t quote me on this).
As for the Irish, maybe it’s because we’ve been screwed for so long…who knows?
What about the old stupid Polish stereotype? How do any stereotypes get started?
How could anyone not like me? I’m friendly, wholesome, and cute. Hell, I’m the Girl Next Door!
Friendly, obviously.
Cute, extremely (at least off the people pages picture.)
But I find it VERY hard to believe that anyone who has been around this board for more than about one month could possibly be described as wholesome.
[Seinfeld]Not that there’s anything wrong with that[/Seinfeld]
Friendly? Yes.
Wholesome? Yes.
Cute? Very, very yes.
Girl next door? Unfortunately no. That job is taken by a pleasant but ugly and overwieght guy. When his lease expires I’ll let you know.
~ Stuyguy
How can I hate a country that we have beaten without fail for the last 185 years
Seriously now. When making sweeping generalisations about nationalities (and why should we not?), the Irish definately rank in my personal top 5. Along with the Ausies, the Canucks, the Belgians and the Danish.
Then, the rest of the world, in no particular order.
Then the French. Dammit
BTW, I’m seriously considering attending the Dopers Meeting in Dublin next October. Not for you Oirish wankers, but for Murphys Irish Stout, naturally. Slainthe, me lads
(If that’s the Scotish spelling, please don’t kill me.)
MURPHYS , NOOOOOOO ! Guinness that’s the only way to go
Hope ya can make it. I’ll even buy you a Murphys if you do :rolleyes:
Based on the news reports out of Belfast, the Irish seem to do a fine job of hating each other.
As far as the St. Paddy’s parades go, that seems to be more of an Irish american thing. Most of the native Irishmen I know, (and for some odd reason I seem to know quite a few), roll their eyes at it. “This is Kent *O’*Brockman reporting form the Springfield St. Patrick’s Day parade.”
Ireland may seem a utopia to romantic Americans but it isn’t in Belfast and it wasn’t during the years of brutal British oppression dating back hundered’s of years. Not that the Irish don’t scruple to exploit the romantic appeal to boost tourism, and the Irishmen I know here don’t mind using there lilt to bed as many American chicks as possible.
Anyway, how could anyone hate a nation that has given us: Guinness stout, James Joyce, U2, Gabriel Byrne, Swift, Shaw, and a bunch of decent bars.
I figured telling a Dubliner I prefered a Cork beer would get me into trouble
Not to worry mate, I like a Guinness as much as the next guy. It’s just that I slightly prefer Murphys.
Oh, and Yojimbo, you are absolutely right. How can anybody prefer Murphys to Guinness? It’s a little warm for a stout right now, but 9 months of the year, that is the smoothest shit around. Shouldn’t you be drinking sake though?
Anybody find me some cheap airfare and I’ll come.
Untrue, and uncalled for. Please behave.
Also, most Irishmen I know like St. Patricks Day and its parades just fine. They might dislike the travesty the Yanks make of it, though.
The problems in the North are very complex and set very deep in the hearts of Irish people but I don’t really want to get into them in this thread as it could very quickly go bad .
As for Paddy’s day . Here in Dublin it has turned into a wkend party . The whole of central Dublin is given over to outdoors bands , dancing , drinking, firework displays, fairground rides and celebrating celtic culture . It is great fun. We do know how to throw a good party.
Top of the mornin’ to ya! (or evening, whatever…)
I have no particular hatred for the Irish.
In fact, I kinda wish I had red hair…