Bush supporters please post your expectations here

I know many voted for Bush didn’t do it for “morals” and others were worried about abortion issues. Still you must have expectations on what Bush will actually accomplish… since so much was promised by both sides.

First identify what kind of Bush voter you are (anti-Kerry, Church going, Libertarian, Right wing conservative) then:

  1. Three things you wish most he will do during his government…

  2. What do you think will Bush have done in **1 year ** ?

  3. What will Bush have managed until the end of his rule in **4 years ** ?

  4. What would you call a** failure ** by Bush ? What issue/fact would define that Bush has failed as a government for you ? (eg: The US still fighting in Iraq in 2 years or Abortion still legal.)

  5. What was the main reason you wouldn’t vote for Kerry ?

6)** Iraq** will be in 2 years:
a- a democracy
b - chaos
c - something in the middle
d - another dictatorship on our side
e - an Islamic republic
f - another Vietnam
g - I don’t care

( Please keep answers concise and to the point… lets avoid comments until we get a good number of answers.)

Thanks.

I’m a little frightened by the fact that there are no replies.

I’m a voter who usually votes Republican and found the choice of Bush over Kerry easy.

  1. I hope to see him replace at least 3-4 Supreme Court Justices with good, honest, moral people. I think the Supreme Court was my biggest factor in voting this time. None resigned(or died) in the last four years and I think maybe 5 will these four years.

I hope to see Osama Bin Laden caught, tried, and punished(though not all of this will probably fit into Bush’s four years).

I hope to see a ban on gay marriage ammendment.

  1. In 1 year? I have no idea. Probably he’ll have gotten Congress to make his tax changes permanent.

  2. He will replace 3-4 Supreme Court Justices(my primary reason for voting). Osama Bin Laden is 50/50. Gay marriage ban is unlikely.

  3. Failure? Appointment of weak, middle ground Justices(I prefer Conservatives). Reversal of his Stem Cell position. The Iraq war escalating further. Raising of taxes. Institution of a draft. If he had an affair and didn’t resign, I’d consider that a major failure. I expect our leaders to represent better control than that. There are many things I’d consider a failure by Bush, but most apply to any President or leader(government or not).

  4. John Kerry would appoint Liberal Justices to the Supreme Court and he is pro-choice. Sorry, that’s two reasons.

6.C. I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect it to be a democracy that has no American involvement in 4 years. It will be on it’s way to becoming a stand-on-its-own democracy.

There are plenty of other issues and reasons for supporting Bush, but I think I answered your questions. Realize, you didn’t really ask us to defend our positions, just to list them.

I’m a registered Republican who is socially libertarian, fiscally conservative and eclectic-ticket voting. (Repub, Dem, Lib, Constitution and even one Green this time around, in something of a protest vote.)

[ul][li]Reform Social Security, so that young workers not only have a chance to see some return on what they’re putting into the system, they also have a chance to see an improved return on what they’re putting into the system. [/li][li]Stop putting impediments in the way of equality for all citizens, including marriage equality.[/li][li]Continue the effort to bring about democratically elected, stable self-government in Afghanistan and Iraq/.[/ul][/li]

I don’t know. I’m not Kreskin, and I don’t have a magic crystal ball. And I don’t think it’s important to start making these kinds of predictions, as if my relatively uninformed predictions are some sort of indicator of the administration’s success in any way.

Another 9/11 level (or worse) terror event.

Two reasons: first, his promises were smoke and mirrors. He had a “plan” for everything (Iraq, terror at large, military growth, health care, the economy, jobs, etc.) but couldn’t enumerate what any of the details of any of those plans were. Second, given his repeated suggestion that his Vietnam-era actions and record in the Senate were the guides to what kind of man he was and is, I couldn’t find a reason, from those bases, to trust him to be a strong, decisive leader for the war that we’re currently fighting, something I think is more crucial, in the grand scheme, than any domestic or diplomacy issue.

My only answer from your list is G. I don’t care what the bottom line status is. Progress is progress, and end results are something different. If positive progress is continuing to be made, that’s fine by me. I don’t know that the status of Iraq in two years’ time will be an end result, and I’m not in the slightest bit willing to paint anything as a failure if it isn’t.

Thanks for the two responses… quite different and interesting.

Still I'm dissapointed at so few responses. Suddenly the SMDB was full of non-liberals... but they don't want to share their views ? Voting for Bush is a choice for this moment only ... not having a perspective for the future ? I would like to know what is being "demanded" of the POTUS for the future...

Sorry, gotta ask. What do you mean by “moral people”? Who currently is immoral in the Supreme Court today, in your opinion?
Rashak Mani, I think the reasons most voted for him have all been stated during the Bush Campaign.

  1. Finish the war
  2. Find Osama
  3. “Moral” reasons

Still unsure of what #3 means exactly. Is one who supports the legalization of marijuana immoral? Because one could argue that it is immoral to tell people what to do with their bodies. Is one who supports gay marriage immoral? Because one could also argue… WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

They are good and fair questions, but I think what you’re asking is just too broad for the way this forum historically has worked. Anything I post will have thirteen idiots posting drive-bys and rolleyes before the ink on the pixels is dry, your admonition notwithstanding. Heck, even focused topics are subject to hijack by whoever jumps up and down and screams the loudest. There’s no way that I can see that responding to your questions this broadly would be probative to anyone.

This is a shot in the dark here, but from the rest of that post:

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I would guess that by moral, he/she means “willing to legislate the morality of others and totally disregard separation of church and state”.

But you know, I could be wrong and I hope to goodness that I am.

I just wanted to thank you for posting this. I absolutely understand this list… I too believe that young workers should see some return on what they’re putting into the system and I want to see Iraq and Afghanistan work out for the best. I can understand not voting for Kerry because you didn’t think that either of these things would be done under him (though I may have disagreed, I certainly see where you’re coming from).

So thank you for being reasonable and not condescending, those of us on the other side of the aisle appreciate you. :slight_smile:

First identify what kind of Bush voter you are (anti-Kerry, Church going, Libertarian, Right wing conservative)

I’m not a church goer, nor do I think that business should be allowed to do whatever it pleases. All those tests to define your politics say I’m just right of center and I’m too cynical to throw my votes away on a third party candidate so republican it is.

  1. Three things you wish most he will do during his government…

a. Be a president who demonstrates that he realizes that there are voters under 30 and that we’re struggling. Do something about the costs of post-secondary education (one of only two things I think Clinton ever got right); do something about Social security now so we’re not working 80 hours a week to support the retirees who never saved for their futures since saving ceased being a realistic option during their life spans; repeal NAFTA and heavily tax businesses that outsource greater than 10-20% of their workforce… reform, reform, reform.

b. Get partial birth abortions of viable babies banned, excepting cases that continuing pregnancy will directly cause the mother’s death.

c. I’d like to see him stop courting the religious vote and give up on the push for an ammendment to ban same sex marriage. If people don’t want it called marriage, fine, call it Chubby Wubby Double Hubby for all I care, but it’s not fair to withhold legitimation of two people’s relationship based on gender alone.

  1. What do you think will Bush have done in **1 year **?

He’ll appoint at least one new supreme court judge; gotten most of our troops out of Iraq after training the soldiers there to defend themselves; hopefully mend some bridges with world leaders now that’ll they be resigned to dealing with him for four more years, and only for four more years.

  1. What will Bush have managed until the end of his rule in **4 years **?

Until? I’d hope to see a continued improvement in the economy, and more emphasis put on early education. And for the government offer funding for adult/umbilical stem cell research which will allow progress without publicly funding research with built in moral ambiguities while prompting science to seek donations from private citizens for embryonic stem cell research - at this point using embryotic cells, unlike adult and umbilical ones, has onlytheoretical benefits; if they prove their theories, I’ll reconsider my objections to publicly funding it. Plus any of my wishes from 1 coming true would be great.

  1. What would you call a** failure ** by Bush? What issue/fact would define that Bush has failed as a government for you ?

More wars. I didn’t want this war( Someone has got to come up with a term between hawk and dove). I wanted him to send in black ops to hunt for Sadam and Osama. Fewer casualties, you know? War is a serious thing and there have to be easier ways of getting rid of villains than full scale invasions.

  1. What was the main reason you wouldn’t vote for Kerry ?

I think Bush put it very well during the debates “A plan is not a litany of complaints.” Kerry didn’t tell us how he planned to preform all his miracles without raising taxes, but by God we know what he thought was wrong with Bush’s policies. Call me crazy, but if a “how” question is asked, I’d like a “how” answer, not a response that tells me why everything under the sun needs to be changed.

6)** Iraq** will be in 2 years:

c - something in the middle

Four years is a very short time when it comes to a revolution. It’s my hope that they’ll be well on their way to independence by 2008, but it’d be foolish to assume there will be no bumps in the road along the way.

It would be probative and informative to those of us who have the sense to read and evaluate your post as it stands. The hypothetical value of your contribution, as you measure it, shouldn’t be measured by the opinions of those you deem “idiots”.
Also, and quite frankly, I think you’re selling Rashak Mani a little short. He asked the question, he’d like an answer, so have a little confidence that he’ll be able to distinguish your answer from any drive-bys and rolleyes that may or may not come later.

They are broad so that they might escape “railroading” or “baiting” accusations. I’m not asking for a fully fledged and defended point of view either. Though I agree stuff like this can misinterpreted or prone to “drive-bys”… but silence is no way of debate that I know of.
Its your choice of course… you can always defend yourself afterwards. Post links to articles that better position your views. Until then we will assume something else… and we will get silly rant threads about rednecks.

contd… forgot to mention… an important aspect is trying to understand what is being “demanded” of Bush in his second term. If Kerry had been elected that would be an easier answer. What do those that beleive in Bush want from him though ?