The Apprentice -- Season Three Premiere

twickster · #1 01-19-2005, 10:36 PM

Thursday night at 8:30 (half an hour early) -- the new series will pit "Book Smarts" vs. "Street Smarts." Since we already know which Trump prefers, it's hard to imagine there will be much suspense involved.

So -- are we all going to maintain our integrity and not watch if it sucks, or will we all be here as usual Friday morning?

mcms_cricket · #2 01-20-2005, 09:37 AM

Yeah, I don't think this season will be nearly as good. I've got a season pass set on TiVo, but I might end up canceling. I just don't like the premise.

But even if it sucks, I'll still be lurking in this thread anyway. Sigh.

Mullinator · #3 01-20-2005, 09:53 AM

I'll be watching. I have the capacity to handle one more sucky season before fully losing hope (unlike Survivor, that's on a "3 episode or I'm out" watch right now.)

The Raj Ratings are raring to go. I can promise that they will be the yoogest ratings ever, more luxurious than any other reality show ratings concept. They are a part of a $13 Billion dollar industry and of course, Trump's ratings promise to be the best and most magnificent that anyone has ever seen because this board is the greatest board in the world and deserves the best.

On the plus side, I have already identified 3 people I will have no issue hating. Let the excoriations begin!

Rysler · #4 01-20-2005, 10:05 AM

I gave up after the second episode of Wickedly Perfect, so my reality dance card is open until The Biggest Loser 2. I started watching just to read these threads, anyways, and if Mullinator's here, it'll be worth weekly suffering.

Despite my Masters, I'm cheering for the Streets. My Sally pain has not faded.

AuntiePam · #5 01-20-2005, 10:10 AM

I'll be watching.

When will photos and bios show up on the NBC website? Do they wait until after the first episode? I've been looking, and there's a short video, but nothing else that I can find.

twickster · #6 01-20-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rysler

I gave up after the second episode of Wickedly Perfect...

Really? I'm trying to decide whether to tape the whole thing or just the last half hou, because you know I'll be chomping at the bit at 8:30. I'm really digging [i]Wickedly Perfect[/b] -- nice mix of personalities and skill sets, and it's a field (celebrity homemaker) where "personality" is definitely a factor.

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Despite my Masters, I'm cheering for the Streets. My Sally pain has not faded.

Sally = Sandy? And despite my doctorate, I'm with you on this.

It will be interesting to see what kind of tasks they come up with that Burnett sees as being a fair test of the two approaches. Any guesses?

Slacker · #7 01-20-2005, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mullinator

I'll be watching. I have the capacity to handle one more sucky season before fully losing hope (unlike Survivor, that's on a "3 episode or I'm out" watch right now.)

Wordy McWord. Last season provided far more annoyment than enjoyment, but I'm on board for one more. It's worth it for the Raj Ratings alone. Bless you Mullinator.

I'm curious to see if Trump can be even more random this time around. Maybe he'll fire the first person who raises his or her voice in the BR and completely negate last season.

Elret · #8 01-20-2005, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AuntiePam

When will photos and bios show up on the NBC website?

http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_Apprentic...es/index.shtml

Mullinator · #9 01-20-2005, 11:40 AM

Things will be OK if:
-The contestants view this is a contest, but not a cut-throat one.
-Donald makes his decisions based on abilities in relation to the task, not on a personality quirk, the words of others, or the desire to be dramatic.
-The contest focus less on being street marketers and more on sound business philosophy leading to a sales result.
-The show is divided up as 5% set-up, 55% task, 5% reward, 15% pre-Boardroom maneuvers, 20% boardroom.
-Candidates focus on how to win in the boardroom, not how to not lose this week.

Most of those things happened in TA1. None of those 5 things happened in TA2. I'll be happy if 3 of them happen in this version. But again, this was mostly filmed before TA2 was aired so they had little to no chance to learn lessons from prior failures. Heck, that concept should be one of trump's little lessons.

MovieMogul · #10 01-20-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mullinator

The Raj Ratings are raring to go. I can promise that they will be the yoogest ratings ever, more luxurious than any other reality show ratings concept. They are a part of a $13 Billion dollar industry and of course, Trump's ratings promise to be the best and most magnificent that anyone has ever seen because this board is the greatest board in the world and deserves the best.

Between your ratings and TWOP, I think I'll be fine skipping it this season. My wife have narrowed our TV nights to two per week (Sun & Wed) and we're perfectly happy keeping it that way.

Rysler · #11 01-20-2005, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by twickster

Sally = Sandy? And despite my doctorate, I'm with you on this.

Oh, Sandy, right. Apparently I am over it.

Smeghead · #12 01-20-2005, 02:43 PM

Is it just me, or has very little time passed between interations this time around? It seems like the last one just ended.

Improv Geek · #13 01-20-2005, 04:13 PM

Smeghead, yeah - it was a rather quick turnaround. I think Donald was hoping to float on the remnants of those who he had gained with last season. We'll see if it proves too much.

It might also be that he didn't want to compete with Survivor: Palau, who knows.

In any case, I'll be watching tonight whether roommates like it or not.

Raj Ratings at hand.

AuntiePam · #14 01-20-2005, 04:56 PM

Elret, thanks!

I cut and pasted (and selectively edited the bios), if anyone's interested in a snapshot. (It's been a slow day.)

Street Smarts

Tara, 28, PR for the Port Authority, oversaw the “process” for gubernatorial appointments in new Jersey

Tana, 37, wife, mother of two, internet commerce and a top Mary Kay salesperson

Kristen, 31, real estate in L.A., equestrian

John, 32, owns an insurance agency and an IT consulting firm, has owned and operated restaurants and a nightclub

Craig, 37, married, four daughters, EMT and firefighter, partner in a music conglomerate, created and developed a modest shoeshine franchise entitled, "Peaceful Feet Shoe Shine Inc."

Chris, 22, real estate

Brian, 29, businessman and entrepreneur -- a self-made millionaire from selling glow-in-the-dark necklaces, currently running five businesses, including real estate and software for real estate, magician

Audrey, 22, real estate agent, working launching a non-profit organization for high school students to help them pursue their dream careers.

Angie, 41, single mother, opened the first Curves for Women health club in Los Angeles and currently owns two of them, professional cabaret singer and songwriter, currently is publishing her own book of original songs.

School Smarts

Verna, 31, married with children, sales background, Marketing Communications, IT, experience in presentations to groups, management, MBA in Business Communications

Todd, 34, married with children, BA in Business from the University of Miami, insurance sales agent experience, youngest sales manager for "No Fear" athletic apparel, restaurant entrepreneur.

Stephanie, 29, Arizona State University, B.S. with emphasis in Supply Chain Management , currently part of a Fortune 500 Supply Chain Organization, expertise in Information Technology Outsourcing and Human Resource Outsourcing.

Michael, 25, The Pingree School in South Hamilton, Massachusetts, Bachelors Degree in Communications from Boston College, real estate development and investment

Kendra, 26, degree in linguistics from the University of Florida, founding Editor-in-Chief of a lifestyle magazine, real estate license, My House Real Estate, Inc., speaks on a real estate investment talk radio show

Erin, 26, corporate attorney, J.D. from Villanova, participated in Women Against Abuse Volunteer Attorney Program, University of Miami -- dual degree in Broadcasting and Political Science, wrote for the Miami Hurricane newspaper, Most Outstanding Student Award, currently developing the first "All Women for Women" law firm focusing on issues including: domestic violence, child support, sexual harassment, pre-nuptial agreements and divorce.

Danny, 39, Cleveland State University, graduate coursework in music composition at Boston University, where he later joined the faculty, and studied at MIT's famed Media Lab, developed media and technology ventures, founder, CEO and chief visionary for POPstick, a leader in innovating new media technologies, writes and performs rock operas and symphonies, four national composition awards.

Bren, 32, married with children, B.A. and J.D. University of Memphis, J.D., left a career as a real estate closing attorney to be an Assistant District Attorney General, “thugs and drugs”

Alex, 29, nationally ranked skier, studied archaeology at Jerusalem University and completed degrees in Theology and Latin at Seattle Pacific University, weekly editorial column in the college paper, lobbyist for the apple industry, oversaw bidding and shipping logistics for the USDA's first-ever purchase of fresh apples umanitarian food aid programs. J.D. from Seattle University, graduation speaker and President of the Federalist Society.

Impossible to predict success or entertainment value based on this, but it could be a fun season 3.

Try As I Might... · #15 01-20-2005, 05:00 PM

ya know,
i really don't understand this thread at all. the apprentice's third season is going to be really, really great. it's going to be the best thing you've ever seen and you'll tell your grandchildren about it. it's the best show in the best town, New York City, and it has the best person in the whole world, me. I would stay and explain it more, but i am realy, really busy trying to keep "Mel-ahn-ya" happy and intrigued by my wealth. I'm going to let Carolyn take over now.
Sincerely,
The Donald

Diogenes the Cynic · #16 01-20-2005, 07:31 PM

My completely knee-jerk, arbitrary, totally uninformed instinct so far is to support the polyester dork and the prosecutor with the bowtie. That could change at any second.

Rysler · #17 01-20-2005, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Diogenes the Cynic

My completely knee-jerk, arbitrary, totally uninformed instinct so far is to support the polyester dork and the prosecutor with the bowtie. That could change at any second.

I'm rooting for Polyester, too (the anti-Raj?), but Bowtie seems abrasive.

Tana, though, has to go. Soon.

Spree · #18 01-20-2005, 07:34 PM

Gee, how many Raj bowties have you guys counted so far?

I like shaggy, Beatles-looking guy myself.

Amazingrace · #19 01-20-2005, 07:41 PM

I love whoever said, "I'm not going to sit in a circle and sing kumbayah. I guess that's what they do in college."

I'm liking it so far.

AuntiePam · #20 01-20-2005, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rysler

Tana, though, has to go. Soon.

Oh, I'm liking Tana, but Erin rubs me wrong already.

Improv Geek · #21 01-20-2005, 07:43 PM

I'm not meshing with this cast like I did the last two seasons, we'll see how it goes I guess.

The singing dude is a little much imho.

Diogenes the Cynic · #22 01-20-2005, 07:46 PM

For some reason I feel myself siding with the college team. Maybe it's just because
I am a college grad but I feel some impulse to want to prove that education means something.

av8rmike · #23 01-20-2005, 07:46 PM

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The singing dude is a little much imho.

I'm just praying someone's going to do a John Belushi/"Animal House" and smash his guitar against a wall.

"Sorry."

Improv Geek · #24 01-20-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by av8rmike

I'm just praying someone's going to do a John Belushi/"Animal House" and smash his guitar against a wall.

"Sorry."

Amen.

I guess I'm with the college team too because I do want to see education come through, but seeing how serious Net Worth is taking it - I hope to see a stunning victory in the first competition.

Spree · #25 01-20-2005, 07:48 PM

It's a small thing, but I noticed how the Street Smarts group was out the door right away, to get hands-on ASAP, while the College group immediately started conferencing and delegating as their first step. Or am I overanalyzing?

Diogenes the Cynic · #26 01-20-2005, 07:55 PM

A hamburger challenge plays right into the hands of the high school crew.

That singing could get very old very quickly.

That viking hat is stupid.

Spree · #27 01-20-2005, 07:57 PM

When the Magna team leader was sitting in BK at his laptop, he looked EXACTLY like Kelly from last season. Same expression on his face, same dismissive attitide combined with false & condescending praise to the guy who was getting pissy...

Diogenes the Cynic · #28 01-20-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spree

It's a small thing, but I noticed how the Street Smarts group was out the door right away, to get hands-on ASAP, while the College group immediately started conferencing and delegating as their first step. Or am I overanalyzing?

Another way you could look at it is that the high schoolers went rushing out to eat hamburgers without any sort of plan or concept for what they were going to do and the college team got organized and got their shit together.

I guess it all depends on your perspective.

Diogenes the Cynic · #29 01-20-2005, 08:01 PM

I don't like Polyester anymore. The guy is a tool. "Just say Cheese" was perfect.

Spree · #30 01-20-2005, 08:03 PM

Yeah, but how can you make your plan if you don't have your details yet?

(College grad here, BTW...I know what you mean about wanting to validate my education!)

And, yes, Danny is going to be high-maintenance, I believe. I give him 2 eps before his first hissy fit.

Diogenes the Cynic · #31 01-20-2005, 08:03 PM

Heh heh. The dog peed on Tana. Good dog.

AuntiePam · #32 01-20-2005, 08:10 PM

Ha! Tana's local.

I didn't notice when I looked at the bios, but she's from West Des Moines, and she's the lead item on tonight's local news. Ordinarily it bugs me when the news people always try to find an "Iowa connection" for every single thing that happens in the world, but I'm okay with this.

Guess I'm just as bad as the news people.

Danny would scare me away from that Burger King.

cheddarsnax · #33 01-20-2005, 08:10 PM

Danny looks like a thin Michael Moore. And his promotion is both hilarious and horrible. I love it.

Diogenes the Cynic · #34 01-20-2005, 08:11 PM

Say good bye to Danny. He blew the task and his personality sucks. Danny...you're fired.

Spree · #35 01-20-2005, 08:11 PM

Holy. Cow. THAT was pathetic. Danny is going downnnn.

Diogenes the Cynic · #36 01-20-2005, 08:12 PM

That John from the high school team is a condescending dick.

Improv Geek · #37 01-20-2005, 08:14 PM

Alright, time for the Raj Ratings. Roll em out people.

Spree · #38 01-20-2005, 08:14 PM

Which one is he?

Diogenes the Cynic · #39 01-20-2005, 08:15 PM

There have been rumors on TWOP that Trump was very disappointed in this particular cast and thought they all sucked. So far I've seen nothing to dispell that rumor.

Rysler · #40 01-20-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Diogenes the Cynic

That John from the high school team is a condescending dick.

Is that the team leader? I thought his speech to pump up the regular staff was awesome.

Diogenes the Cynic · #41 01-20-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spree

Which one is he?

The heavyset project manager. I find his pep talk's to be insincere backslapping. I guess it's pretty subjective, though. My first impressions are often wrong (I thought Danny would be off-beat and cool but it turns out he's just annoying).

gobear · #42 01-20-2005, 08:25 PM

Danny is clueless and annoying; however, Todd the PM didn't get trained, didn't get the scheduling right, was useless behind the counter, and generally failed at leading his team. I'd boot him, except that he is such hot eye candy that I want him to stick around.

Although I'm a college graduate, I'm rooting for Net Worth because they seem more together, harder-working, and generally more appealing than the college team is.

AuntiePam · #43 01-20-2005, 08:26 PM

John's appreciation felt sincere to me.

I guess Danny didn't scare people away after all -- looks like they had more customers than they could handle.

Not much $$ difference between the two teams.

Todd (Magna's leader) should have taken a few minutes to train for something so he could help out in a pinch.

Diogenes the Cynic · #44 01-20-2005, 08:29 PM

That's a good point about Todd. Fast food work is not neurosurgery. You train somebody on a fry station in like 30 seconds Burgers in five minutes. He was lazy.

AuntiePam · #45 01-20-2005, 08:32 PM

Uh oh. Did Danny just call George and Carolyn clones?

cheddarsnax · #46 01-20-2005, 08:33 PM

Debating Danny's clothing? Come on, guys, it's not like he's wearing a Speedo. There is no problem here.

Rysler · #47 01-20-2005, 08:34 PM

Carolyn likes a woman! Woo!

Sorry, Pam, I liked Erin's answers.

AuntiePam · #48 01-20-2005, 08:40 PM

Erin made my Makes Me Ashamed to Be Female List when she threw herself crying on Todd's bed.

I liked the answers from the woman who said a good manager would have reined Danny in, kept him in check.

I'm not ready to see Danny go, but it doesn't look good.