Condo board, you're a pack of nosy, lying bastards.

As some of you may recall, my husband SuaSponte is the proud owner of a '79 Cadillac Sedan de Ville . He’s had the car for a few years now, and the fun of it is more or less gone. Recently he got a new car, so the Caddy was sitting, undriven, in our condo parking lot.

A few weeks before Christmas, as the snowbirds were flocking to their winter condos in our complex, we got a phone call from one of our neighbors asking us to move the car. We were told it was in the parking space of someone who was coming down for the season. No worries, we moved it to the back of the lot, where no one parks. At this time, I also let the caller know that we’re planning to get rid of the car. A few weeks later, we get a second call, asking us to move the car again. Some construction is scheduled and the car will be in the way. Again, we move the car, to a space even further back in the lot.

Then, last week, we get a letter from the condo board claiming that they’ve asked us to remove the car from the lot on several occasions, and that if we don’t, they’ll have it towed at our expense. Our landlord is CCed.

I saw red. No one has asked us to remove the car from the lot, first of all. Secondly, there’s nothing in the condo rules or our lease that specifies how many cars we’re allowed to have. Thirdly, there are plenty of empty spaces in the lot, even at the height of the season. Finally, the car is parked in a spot where no one ever parks, far from anyone’s door.

Sua calls the landlord, who is just as perplexed (and annoyed) as we are. The landlord calls someone on the board. Turns out, they’re concerned that the car has no plates on it. Aha! Now this makes sense, though it would have been nice if they’d just asked us to get tags on the car, rather than a) lying to us and b) threatening us. So we get temporary tags, and have every intention of donating the car to the American Lung Association within the month.

And then, today, I hear a knock on the door. An elderly neighbor introduces himself and asks when we’re getting rid of the car. I tell him I don’t know and he tells me we’re only allowed one car per unit in the complex. Wrong, asshole. I just re-read the condo association rules and our lease. There’s nothing in either about how many cars we’re allowed to have. I tell him this. He makes up some bullshit about how the board has bent the rules to let us have more than one car. I calmly explain that we both have jobs and that we need two cars. He asks again when we’re getting rid of the Caddy. I reply, coldly, that I don’t know. He says, “Well, have a nice day,” and I say, “You too,” and slam the door.

Who the hell do these nosy, cantankerous coots think they are? They have nothing better to do all day than sit at home worrying about the cars in their empty lot? It wasn’t enough to send a threatening letter, now I get a harassing visit? I don’t fucking think so. I’m half tempted to put plates on the car, take the tires off and prop the damn thing up on cinderblocks in the lot. Hey, there’s nothing in the in the rules or the lease that prevents it.

I think it would have been most effective if you’d have bitten him. RAWR!

You’re surprised that old retirees have nothing better to do than complain about the neighbors?

Perhaps you’re not quite cut out for condo living.

Our townhouse development has twenty-five (25) units and it is NOT the retirees who are making it a miserable place to live----it is the goddamn Condo Cops, none of whom are retired.

In my old apartment complex, I had a similar situation. The apartment manager tried to tell me that she wanted me to get my car off the property, or she would have it removed. She really wanted to give the spot to one of her pals. It was in my designated parking place. It was in operating condition. I was not driving it much, because I was within easy walking distance from my job. I wrote a letter to her and the apartment owner, telling them that if they tried anything, I would press charges for grand theft auto. I would also file suit for the towing and all storage/disposal charges and any other damages I could dream up. In short, I would own them. They backed away FAST.

Just be careful when your wealthy son comes to visit & takes you out to dinner AFTER the Early-Bird Special…

Now to wait to see who gets the reference…

Seinfeld :slight_smile:

YAY!

Now, who actually thought about that ep before getting to my post?

It ain’t just condos or retirees, vix. I was one of those doughty urban pioneers who years ago bought an old house in a derelict neighborhood. A bunch of us worked our asses off rehabbing the houses, getting rid of the drug dealers, etc. Now it’s a thriving, healthy place to live–and an historic district. Alas, success has its drawbacks, namely the influx of tight-anused Martha Stewart yuppie wannabes.

They managed to get an ordinance passed that tightened up prohibitions against vehicles left even in private driveways. “Left”, of course, is open to interpretation. It was aimed at removing derelict vehicles but rapidly became a game of finger-pointing oneupsmanship. The self-appointed Undesireable Car Spotters went on the prowl, hassling the cops to tag any car they deemed unsuitable.

Right at this time I’d finally booted my abusive, drunk ex-husband out and filed for divorce. We had three cars at the time, none of which he took because he’d long since had his driver’s license pulled: my Jaguar, his NissanZ and a Ford Bronco for heavy hauling and bad weather. Now keep three things firmly in mind:

  1. All the vehicles were in excellent condition
  2. All were plated, insured and driveable–and driven
  3. I couldn’t sell any of them until the divorce was settled

Did this satisfy the zealous car spotters, my dear new neighbors? Oh no! At least twice a month for two solid years they called the cops on me for “derelict” that supposedly hadn’t been moved in ages. The cops hated it but didn’t have any choice about it. They were very funny and very nice about it. I’d see the cops in my driveway, chalking my car tires, and we’d joke about it.

cops: They called us on the Jag again. Couldn’t you at least put this thing up on blocks?
me: Hard to drive it to work that way. Sorry about that and all.
cops: Well we gotta keep ahead of these crime waves.

So each morning, for two solid years, in all weathers, I had to shuffle the cars around in the driveway, rotating which one I’d drive that day, proving that each had been moved. Worse, the most persistent complainers bloody well KNEW why I couldn’t sell the cars: my ex-husband moved in with one of his longtime lovers who served on the district board.

Ready for the jaw-dropper? The divorce was finally settled, I sold off all the cars and quietly went about my business. Paid off the ex’s debts, then paid off the house and went back to renovations. (It’s pretty prominent, being slam in the middle of the district.) The very same Officious Assholes who harrassed for so long had the unmitigated brass-faced gall to ask/demand that I let them use my house for public tours on behalf of their association.

Sorry to hijack your excellent rant, vix, but if misery loves company and all like that, many of us are over-blessed with shameless putzes.

Veb

It’s assholes like these that make me never want to live under a housing association.

We’re used to them being nosy, and often it’s quite amusing. But we’ve lived here for over a year with no complaints from or about them, and then this? I’d have said we were on friendly terms with the neighbors. We follow the rules, we’re not loud, we say hello and chat when we see them. That they would get all up in arms about something that’s actually not a violation of those rules, and in such an unfriendly, confrontational way… that’s what chaps my hide.

I hope you told the association to shove their tour up their tight anuses.

Oh yeah, in an excruciatingly controlled way. I’m a city department head so, like it or not, often I can’t cut loose. It was probably more effective that way anyhow. Revenge served cold and all that. Miss Manners to the rescue again…

I hit 'em with a full two-minute silent stare by the clock: a dead-level, expressionless gaze dead in the eye. They started squirming and stammering about 15 seconds into it. One of the more aggressive harrassers just stuck her chin out and babbled righteously about “neighborhood spirit.” Almost lost control over that one.

Finally I just clipped off, “That. Will. Not. Be. Possible.”, gave them the thinnest of smiles–suitable when gifted with rotting roadkill–then turned and walked away. Now they’re pissy that I’m not hospitable. I don’t attend their parties! Why, my house is just beautiful–such an asset to the neighborhood!–and they’d just love to see inside it. Hint, hint. Which nets them an unresponsive ironic, “You’re very kind” and an immediate turn of subject. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Thwarting their sucking-up isn’t even very satisfying because their outlook and behavior are so disgusting. My old rehabbing buddies are welcome in my home, the ones who generously shared tools, sweat and pep talks when things weren’t all that ‘perfect’. They care as much about the people inside the houses as the outer trappings. They got it right about how to be real neighbors.* They pitched in to help rather than pissing on what didn’t meet their standards.

Grrrrr.

  • Some of the newcomers are great too; really nice people who treat others decently. A handful of aggressive pests is the problem. The sane ones joke that the neighbohood was taken back from the drug dealers; now we just need to take it back from the yuppies.

My Dad got so fed up with the fuckers that he’s selling his invsetment condo.

And buying a small duplex.

Says he’s gonna leave it to me.

My parents live in a place in Florida (not overly full of older people, although my folks and some others are retired) that has an association. It’s one of those places with a small pond in the middle and one street that runs in a circle, with half the houses on the pond and half the houses across the street. So, a few years ago there was a war between the Pond People and the Non-Pond People. (I think it’s pretty much died out, but I suspect grudges are still kept.)

My parents were Pond People, although it’s not like they really wanted the pond or anything. It hasn’t got an alligator… yet. There are ducks, it dosen’t smell, but it’s not really what you’d call a huge asset to their lives or anything. Well, the Non-Pond People started screaming that they should pay less in association dues and such because they didn’t get the benefit of the pond. When people pointed out that their runoff certainly still goes into it, they were all miffed and said “Well, it’s not exactly like living on the water.” (All of these people, Star-Bellies and… oh, I mean Pond and Non-Pond, are a block from the Atlantic Ocean. Beautiful beach.)

So these people with their beach homes spent a year or so locked in brutal combat over a glorified drainage ditch. I went down to see them once and one of their neighbors (from across the street… the non-pond side) came up and said hey, and I, not knowing about all of this, was all “Oh, it’s so nice to see you again!” And he said, in the middle of a friendly conversation, “So, if a neighborhood were to be built where half the houses were on a rich vein of silver and half weren’t, don’t you think the houses that aren’t built on the silver vein should get a discount?” Me: :confused:

Mom explained about the Pond War after that.

I can certainly understand your frustration, but that just seems to be par for the course in condos (at least from what I’ve heard, I can only think of one person that I know who lives in a condo and has never complained about it).

I thought they were going to execute my Dad when he didn’t want to deal with the lunacy of the board when they took the key off of the spigot outside and he had to sign it out to wash his car. He went and bought a new one for his personal use and pissed off quite a lot of people.

I just figured those things were par for the course.

I talked to the landlord again, and he said, “ya know, I was just reading through the board minutes, and they had a discussion about cars… Yep, here it is - the area in the back, near the storage room, can now be used for the long-term storage of cars.”

That, of course, is exactly where the offending car is parked.

Sua

The above was from me.

Sua

Aha! See? Car Criminals frequently resort to misdirection in a futile attempt to confound Taste Fascists. Sign of a guilty conscience if I ever saw one.

So now will your landlord inform those deeply offended that your car was parked properly all along? Maybe you should tap at the door of the vocal complainer anyway.

Gotta say, the horror stories over contraband spigot keys and drainage dit…uh, ponds put my woes to shame. No issue too petty, huh?

Veb

You are the wind beneath my wings.