So long (eventually), horrible neighbour!

My wife and I just closed the sale on our townhouse, and will be moving out of our condo complex in July (or sooner, depending on possession dates). While we actually kind of liked our complex and we’re not bursting at the seams, our moving schedule has been sped up by our neighbour. While my time here at the SDMB has shown me that she is not, in fact, the world’s shittiest neighbour, she at least belongs at the annual banquet honouring the Worst Neighbour of the Year, perhaps to present an award in the category of Most Annoying or to the guy who runs a combination meth lab/weasel farm.

While she (a 40-something single Polish woman) can be nice enough to talk to, she has never seemed to have grasped the concept of condominium living and sharing space with other people. The problems started early, when she decided to put up a bamboo privacy fence in between our two units (to give you a clear picture of the complex, it’s a series of row townhouses grouped in units of four. We are on the end of one of the rows, and her unit is to our north). Her stated reason - to block the view of traffic. This is an unusual reason to my eyes, as there is a large greenspace with 50 foot tall spruce trees in a row, with about 200 feet to the road which is perpendicular to our units. Our unit is closer to the road than hers, so one would really have to try to notice the traffic.

Still, as I said, not a big deal, except that her “fence” is a bamboo thing (with scorchmarks, which should have been a hint of things to come) that was unsecured and continued to fall over - almost invariably towards us. Eventually she got the bright idea to anchor it down into the ground, stretching a line to an eyehook screw, with the line passing directly in front of our door.

(A brief aside on our communal property - none of the green space is owned by individual owners, but we’re free to put lawn furniture out temporarily in the spaces directly in line with our units, and aren’t allowed to put gardens in on this space, etc.)

So, while this isn’t technically our lawn that she’s claiming, it’s not hers either, and she’s blocking our walkway and presenting an actual tripping hazard. We confront her about this, and she says “I was waiting for you to say something about that.” Really?! If you knew it was a dumb idea, why did you put it there in the first place? Did you think we were just going to ignore that our doorway was blocked?

So - one crisis averted. However, barbeque season has then arisen. Another note about our regulations - BBQing on the common areas is explicitly forbidden, and each unit has a concrete patio where we’re supposed to BBQ. She either is unaware or ignores this and uses her Weber grill out on the common lawn. Badly. She decides that the best fuel for making hamburgers is newspaper, which, if anyone has tried this, results in a column of grey smoke and a shower of glowing embers that bathes the rest of the complex. Luckily she avoids setting her, our or anyone else’s units on fire. The property manager is notified, and we hope the problem is solved and the message gets through.

The problem is not solved and the message has not gotten through. We return from vacation later that summer to find that she has decided to start a fire pit in the lawn, apparently uncontained. Fueled by painted lawn furniture. There’s literally the remains of a chair in the ashes. I do well to just contact the property manager again and not yell in her face at her attempts to burn down the complex. This is a woman who should not be allowed to have fire beyond the level of a birthday candle. Since then, we’ve never felt that we were close to having to call the fire department, but every so often in the summer we end up bathed in smoke from her grill. If you can’t make some burgers without making your neighbourhood smell like a fireplace, you’re doing it wrong.

To avoid turning this into a novel, I’ll go to bullet points to further elaborate on her offenses, which range from the baffling to the infuriating:

  • made furniture out of spruce bows, tree stumps and cedar shanks that she placed on the burned out spot in the lawn that she made (and blamed the HOA association for not fixing fast enough), topping it off with a glass table top. The thing looked like she was hosting a Hobbit’s tea party.

  • adopted her daughter’s cats, cut a hole in her house for them to come and go (not installing a proper cat door, oh no), with the inevitable result of them running away. She then went away to Europe for the winter, during which time one of them came back but had since developed feline pneumonia, resulting in the humane society coming out to collect and put it down. Thankfully, my cats are 100% indoors animals and never came in contact.

  • Constantly smokes pot (not such a big deal by itself) and sunbathes topless in the common areas (a bigger deal). Occasionally you will spot some of the kids in the complex doing laps around the parking lot with a particular eye on her unit.

  • Has a variety of gentlemen callers arriving at odd hours, and occasionally hosting a dinner on the patio, where I’ve personally spotted her riding one. She then gets indignant about this invasion of her privacy (!), resulting in her putting up a sheet that she ties to her awning and her car. This sheet eventually catches fire from a candle.

  • Plugs in the block heater on her vehicle at the barest hint of cold weather, well beyond any potential benefit of helping her car start. I’ve seen her vehicle plugged on a day as warm as +15 deg C. She may be under the impression she has an electric car.

  • Painted her concrete patio (expressly forbidden by the HOA) with grey indoor paint and no primer. This, predictably, has begun to peel in a matter of months and already looks awful. Further on that front, she noticed my wife spray painting some lanterns for decoration. She picks up on that idea, but not the detail of laying them on a plastic sheet so as to collect the paint. Her idea - spray paint some decorative items, and some eating utensils (!) gold, on the asphalt. There will be a long, golden reminder of that decision in this complex.

  • Dug up an area in front of the concrete patio and the parking lot to put in a garden box, made of what seems to be the cheapest particle board possible. This space actually serves a purpose, that of giving our vehicles a place to overhang so we don’t run into the patios. This box, inevitably, gets run into and looks even shittier as a result.

I’m probably even forgetting a few things (there’ve been the other typical annoying things, like loud music, etc.). What finally made us decide to move is finding out that she had removed a wall to turn her unit into a sort of loft, which pretty much makes it unsellable in our eyes. She’s never going to leave, so we need to. Maybe I should thank her, since we’re going to be getting our house sooner than we expected. But in just a few months, we’re going to be free, free I tells ya!

Well, you have accomplished the very difficult feat of making that … woman who lives next door to me look, well, not good exactly. Less bad. She only has the one flaw. Screaming incessantly and obscenely at her children at least will not catch the neighborhood on fire, I don’t think.

And by the way, congratulations on being able to move. We own a house in So Cal so selling is not exactly likely at this time.

Thank God for my neighbors. They’re fun to hang out with, they’re completely unconcerned by the state of our lawn, they share their outdoor stuff and politely ask when they want to use ours, and they know lots of people in the city planning office, so when something odd happens (like the recycling not getting picked up), they know why and what will be done about it. They seem similarly shocked by having such polite, quiet, and considerate neighbors as ourselves, and have openly thanked us several times for moving in. It’s made the whole moving-to-Maryland thing infinitely more pleasant.

She sounds like quite a character. I probably wouldn’t mind having her as a neighbor if she had her own house, but I wouldn’t want to be in the same townhouse community with her.

You need to write down everything she does in a permanent medium, not a message board. This way, twenty years from now, you can re-read it and laugh.

I read this a few times…

Am sorry but I think she will be better off without you, its good you are moving

You seem unnecessarily uptight here. Maybe I am missing something or you didn’t elucidate all your concerns sufficiently, maybe am stupid and missing something, but your post didn’t portray you as nice neighbours…

I do get the impression that you have a real hard on about this neighbour… but methinks something is goig down here that you are not saying…

just my $00.02

That’s sort of exactly it, Lynn. If she had her own house, with a fence between us and her, almost all of this would be basically unnoticable (aside from the fire. It’s a miracle she didn’t catch the gutters on fire). If she wants to wreck her own backyard, that’s her deal. But it’s not her backyard, and every time she screws it up, I, and all the rest of the condo owners, have to help pay to fix it. And it’s not like I was over there complaining about her - the only time I asked her to do anything was when she blocked our down. I have seen other neighbours engaged in screaming matches with her, so it’s not just us that have noticed.

Yeah, that’s what would bother me, too.

I have certain streets that I travel regularly. I used to pass by a backyard that faced a main drag. This particular yard had solid sheets of plywood used as the fence, and it had various religious sayings spraypainted on it. These sayings would change every now and then. I used to get a good laugh from this yard, and also laughed about the treehouse sort of structure that was perched in one of the larger trees. Apparently the woman who lived there liked to sit up there and watch the traffic go by, and use binoculars. My husband says that several times she was shouting and preaching at the traffic (which was whizzing by at about 45 MPH) as he drove past. I’m sorry I missed that. At any rate, she’s gone now, and the plywood has been replaced by more conventional wooden fencing.

The neighborhood is a little blander without her. On the other hand, it’s also quieter, which I regard as a good thing.

I really don’t like home owners associations, because I think that most of them go way too far in their restrictions. I like houses that are painted in wild colors and patterns. I like seeing various flags and banners (as long as they’re not hate speech) flying. I enjoy seeing neighborhoods that have houses that are quite different from each other. And frankly, unless it’s a constant frontyard display, I don’t have an issue with clotheslines. In fact, I am glad to see clotheslines because it means that someone is being responsible about energy.

Really? In my complex she would have to foot the entire bill, and rightly so. It sounds like another part of the problem is ineffectual condo management.

Do you live in a place where it’s cool to interfere with your neighbor’s access to their property and risk setting their homes on fire?

I would agree that it’s part of it. They did eventually threaten to fine her over the furniture, but she also just ignores what they say to her. (The condo board is also in the middle of a stupid internal fight and lawyers at 10 paces, which is another reason I’m not too broken up about leaving)

You’ve already sold the place, but If this woman is the primary reason Homeowners’ Associations typically have a who Bible of rules, and it seems like she could be amenable to stop some of her actions, or else be evicted. Talk to her a second time with some kind of documentation about rules of Homeowevers’ Association the Tell her “as a friend.” You can say something like this: “I’ve heard from the grapevine that the HOA wants to get rid of you, and is just gathering the evidence. You should be careful. Do you have a copy of the rules?”

Give her a copy, and highlight the parts that do or could affect you and the problems she’s having.

But since you’ve already decided to leave, you might not want to bother, but I hope she wasn’t the primary reason for your decision.

On the bright side (if you want to collect memories) there’s always the chance she’ll degenerate into even more extreme behavior over the next few months.

Jesus Christ! I’d hate to see your idea of a bad neighbor! :dubious:
There’s this woman who lives up the street from us who has her house arranged like a compound-big wire fence, “beware of dog” signs. She’s apparently a former Marine, and has a “Don’t Tread on Me” flag. Okay, cool. On the other hand, she has several “No’Bama” and “NO SOCIALISM” signs, and ever since the election, the big-ass flag she has is flying upside-down. She’s also got a HUGE SUV* as well as a motor-cycle that are parked practically in the middle of the road. One of these days, some assclown is going to plow right into them.

Then there are our next-door neighbors. Their yard is a mess, and in the summer time, they have a chimenea that they like to burn late into the night. Only they take the chimeny part off, and must use damp wood, because it blows nothing but nasty smoke all into our bedroom windows, and they spend all hours yapping and keeping everyone awake. I once finally yelled out the window, “Do you MIND? SOME of us have to get up early in the morning!” My sister isn’t so polite: “Would you just SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!!!” Still, it’s better than our last neighbors…

I really, really can see what drives people to become recluses in remote cabins in the woods sometimes…

*complete with a “Michael Savage for President” bumpersticker. You know, the guy who told a caller that he hoped the guy would “get AIDS and die?” Charming.

Yeah, this would definitely have helped when the lady decided to barbeque the Roast Beast.

What kind of dog does she have? A Bichon Frise? Yorkie? Or maybe a Japanese Chin.

I’m betting foofie dog.

I have no idea-I’ve never even seen it.

I believe you have missed the opportunity to participate in a new Reality Television show: NEIGHBORS

The idea would be to take annoying but excellently entertaining (to the rest of the world) neighbors such as yours and film their antics for wider consumption.

Well, of course not. That would be the woman who lives below us.

And it looks like we’re in for a warm spring and summer!

Pish posh! I got one who’s a real doozy! He hasn’t gotten any more - um - stable, either. :rolleyes:

::reading Missy2U’s linked thread::

No shit? I remember that thread. What’s going down with that guy?