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Cool gadgets that went (almost) nowhere
Near the top of the list must be the Apple MessagePad (Newton).
Also, I vaguely remember a Panasonic VCR that hooked up to your telephone line (the same way you hook up an answering machine), so that you could dial in and remotely program it to record a TV show. Anybody else remember this? Any other cool "flops"? |
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The videophone. It seems that there's always this feeling that it's a technology whose time has come, although I can't imagine why. For a while it really looked like people would buy them maybe - it was an actual videophone gadget (I think they even had one on Loveline) as opposed to videoconferencing through your computer which I guess some people actually do. An actual videophone unit.
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I had the Sega channel way back when. It was a Sega cartridge that had a cable connection. You'd plug it into your Genesis and get 20 different games a month. It was really annoying to get Mortal Kombat 3 because they'd split the characters up into two seperate games that you had to download, cutting down on your choices. That and you couldn't save RPGs. But we got specialty games you couldn't get elsewhere: some Tetris knockoff that was really good, and Pong!
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Personally, I was disappointed the segway was such a flop. |
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The videophone is amazing, if only because it is probably the longest-lived failed invention ever. It has cropped up in some working experimental form over and over again since at least 1930, only to be promptly shoved aside each time.
You'd think that after all this time the phone people would have caught on that nobody wants the goddamn thing. BUT! NOOoooooo. Every few years, there it is again. It's getting to be the technological equivalent of the old pull-the-quarter-out-of-your ear trick: no one cares anymore, especially since in this case, we don't even get to keep the quarter. Enough already with the videophone. |
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Anyway... Nixie Tubes Jet Packs. (Later Bell models, as I remember, not only had a true jet engine, but an endurance time of seven minutes.) Or the Williams Aerial Survey Platform. RCA Videodiscs. Or Phonovision discs. Flamethrowers. (Maybe "went nowhere" is too strong, but they have kind of died out.) The Pedfersen Device |
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Ranchoth: That Phonovision story borders on the sci fi. Imagine - they could record TV (back when there hardly was TV). But they couldn't figure out how to play it back - it was just noise-on-a-record until computer frequency analysis and filtering.
I submit for your approval Thaddeus Cahill's unbelievable Telharmonium. was the first truly electric musical instrument. It was the talk of New York in 1907. By 1908 it had gone broke. By 1912 it was back. Only now, nobody cared. Want your flying (or floating) car? Consider the Aerocar and Amphicar. |
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That and cell phones with text messaging. |
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1. Where does it run? It's a motor vehicle, but the "rider" is sort of a pedestrian. Many areas won't let it ride on the sidewalk, as it goes too fast, and it could be a mild danger and a significant annoyance to real pedestrians. It's too slow to go on the street. Every area doesn't have bike paths, and even so, bikes go faster, and they won't want you there. 2. No cargo space- when people go places, they want to take things with them- to wrok, your computer that case you've been working on, and shopping- what you;ve bought on the way back. 3. You stand, not sit- and dudes are lazy. But it's #1 that killed it- no use buying something that can't go anywhere! |
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The problem the segway wanted to solve, in my mind, is this last mile problem with personal transport. Say you live a mile away from the train station and the other train station is a mile away from your work. What are your choices for getting to work? You can't drive to the train station because theres nowhere to park there. You can bike there but you can't take the bike onto the train so you'll have to walk at the other end. You can walk to the train station but it's a mile both ways. Finally, you can just give in and drive to work, if you can find a parking spot for less than $10 a day. With a segway, and appropriate infrastructure support, you've solved this problem! The money you save on car support alone well justifies buying a segway, even at $5000. You just ride your segway onto the train and park it in a built in booth, get off the train, ride it to work and park it into a designated employee segway parking lot. And because Americans are so attached to their cars, it's hard to imagine ever doing completely without one. But in Europe, you can do stuff like go shopping and put all your groceries at a designated dropoff point where it will then be delivered to you later in the day. If your computer needs to be repaired, the repairman can pick it up from your house and return it when it's fixed etc. I think the segway was a genuinely viable product that, sadly, never got the support it needed to gain it's full potential. |
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In safety-mad America, you've also got the challenge that a Segway goes fast enough that falling off the thing will injure the rider.
If you hit an obstacle, such as a curb or piece of debris in the road, you go face-first onto the cement after your private parts get thwacked by the handlebar. So very quickly people will be wanting bicycle helmets, elbow pads, etc. And what do you do with all that gear when you get to the store or to school or work? The folks that ride bikes for transport now put up with lugging all that stuff around when they get where they're going, but that's because they're fanatics, or kids with no choice. Putting up with that degree of inconvenience will never be a mainstream American value. Prsonally, I'd like to have one, but more than that I'd like to have a use for one. Sadly, that's just not happening, even in my bike-friendly suburban world with the long commute.
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Autogyros.
Not quite a helicopter, it can't hover, although it can fly as slow a 5mph. Slower than an airplane, it is also short-ranged. It is chiefly famous for its goofy appearance, & a brief use in a James Bond film.
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IMHO the only "problem" the Segway was designed to solve was: "We spent all this money developing a 2-wheel balancing system for the iBOT (electric wheelchair), but the market for those isn't very big. How can we make more money with this technology?" |
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The Segway was just the son of the Sinclair C5; a solution looking for a problem.
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The inside the Egg shell scrambler?
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Re: Segway,
You can't carry it around because it's too heavy. If you hit someone, it's like you hit them while running with a huge backpack. Many people couldn't even get it over a curb easily. It costs enough to buy a used car and use that for the other end of the train ride. |
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And what the hell is wrong with a fifteen minute walk, anyway? Plus, would you rather be on a Segway or a tram when it's raining? Quote:
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Phonographic video! I've got "Star Wars" War of the Worlds", "Dracula" and a few more. As with anything, there are collectors around for them. The picture quality was sloigly higher then with a VCR.
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[quote=Beware of Doug] You'd think that after all this time the phone people would have caught on that nobody wants the goddamn thing.[quote]
It's interesting to note that even in Star Trek, in all its various incarnations, anything resembling a videophone is hardly ever seen. To my recollection, the one landmark SF movie where videophones do figure fairly prominently is 2001: A Space Oddysey. The specific context in which it was used--a father talking to his little girl, is a good example of why one might actually want to have this technology available. You probably don't want to see your boss's face when he calls you at the office, but I imagine most people wouldn't mind seeing their loved ones, and it's odd that this particular application wasn't enough to push the technology further along. |
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My pick's an oldie, but a goodie:
Victor Home Recording units. They offered you the ability to record radio programs for later listening, and were the only method availible for ordinary people in their homes (other than contracting a recording firm) until reel-to-reel tape recorders. However, they had the misfortune to be introduced in October 1930. As a result, they were dead by the late 1930's, due to a lack of customers. |
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I remember reading an article in some cool magazine (Popular Science?) in the late 70s that showed the inner workings of Polavision.
Never heard of Polavision? It was to home motion picture film what Polaroid cameras were to still photography. Here's a picture. Very cool process, but it came much too late for anyone to be interested; video cameras were already appearing on the consumer market. I have always wanted a Xircom Rex PDA. This was a tidy little pda that was fully built within a PCMCIA card. So small it slips into any pocket. No docking station needed -- just plug it in to the PC card slot. Clearly, it was no good for data entry, but I just want my contacts and my meeting schedule. It's a shame that it died and I am left to carry a Palm device. |
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There was also the Fisher Price PXL-2000 video camera for kids. It used HQ audio cassettes! These things go for BIG money on eBay. I understand film school students lust after them. |
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Tablet Computers
A few major companies released tablet computers in the early nineties. They bombed. Several of them (IIRC including Microsoft) tried again about two years ago. I'd use my tablet pc for some things, but it has no floppy drive and I can't get the data transfer cable to work (I may need to put a Windows 3.1 partition on this computer). Wire Recorders As the name suggests, you could record sound onto wire. Quality wasn't great. You needed a very long cable for more than a few minutes. Then, open reel tape machines debuted. Re Nixie Tubes I love those things. I wish I could pump the gas back in and reseal them. Re Segway The busses here have bike racks on the front. You are allowed to bring a bike onto the train (though I think they may require the purchase of bike permit) Quote:
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*sigh* The Cook and Clean Center
I had a miniscule apartment that had one of these...I owned just enough stuff that I didn't bother putting anything in the cupboards, I just ran the dishwasher every morning as I went to work, and everything was ready when I got home=) Also, can't find any link online, but around 1990 or so, in the Navy Exchange catalog they had a spiffy toy, an appliance you put a washed potato in, and filled a bin with oil, and it would slice and fry potato chips and conveyor belt them out into a paper towel lined plate=) ... sort of a toy like those coffee maker/toasteroven/heating tray thingy that you can find in gizmo catalogs=) |
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The "Echo" communication satellite—basically, a big, metalicized balloon that radio signals were bounced off of. There's just something oddly charming about it.
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I thought the CrossPad was a neat idea. It's basically a clipboard with a built-in digitizer, so whatever you wrote (with a special RF pen) gets saved as digital data. I used to own one and found it of some use, but the implementation wasn't good enough for everyday use. It was rather large and heavy, and the PC software for managing the data was very limited. And the RF pen wasn't very pleasent to write with.
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Another one...atomic pens.
And "Go Motion," a stop-motion animation technique. (I guess it didn't go "nowhere," completely, but it's close to.) |
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Bikes, on the other hand, are limited by their form factor to be a certain size which means even if they weighed nothing, they would still be tricky to take up stairs. |
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Could you do it? Sure. Would you be 0.0001% of the population willing to do so? Yup. |
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![]() In any case, this is off-track - this would only ever account for a tiny segment of commuters. Replacing bikes with Segways wouldn't change anything (I don't see any cities being 'redesigned' around bikes). |
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RE: Segway
Why it will never replace my automobile- 1) No airconditioning. Riding to work in a suit when its 93 degrees and 100% humidity can't be pleasant. 2) No heat. Riding to work when it's below 30 degrees and windy can be a real bummer. 3) No roof. Riding to work in the rain and snow is going to make you nice and soggy when you get there. 4) No storage. How do I get my briefcase, gymbag, lunch, and coffee to work with me. 5) No radio. I don't feel like messing with a walkman everday. I like to just press a button for news and weather. |
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I have yet to meet a driver of an electric car who didn't love it, myself included. As any auto manufacturer will happily point out, there are reasons why the EV program wouldn't have worked. But there are just as many reasons why it would have. A great second car for a two-car family.
There is something incredibly peaceful and joyful about driving a car that makes virtually no noise, doesn't require gasoline and doesn't emit exhaust (oh, and dramatically reduces fuel and maintenance costs). Those matters seemed to get lost from manufacturer to consumer. A real shame IMHO. |
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"Engine Failure in Engine 4; Automatic Fuel Shut Off Engaged" To which the pilot that was flying the plane responded by saying something along the lines of - "AHHHH!! HOLY SHIT!! WOMAN ON BOARD" and ejecting promptly, even though the malfunction was not a very serious one. So even such a great haven for useless technologies as the Soviet air force couldn't prevent the demise of wire recording. |
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Ok, this is pretty underwhelming, and not really that cool, but it was when it came out -
Calculator watches. My dad had one of the first kinds that came out. he got it at Radio Schlock. Big and chunky and pretty unattractive, but as a kid it fascinated me because, hey, there was a calculator in it!! And the buttons were so tiny!! Unfortunately, there was something wrong with it and it was far from accurate. I remember one time playing with it and it claimed that 2 + 16 = 28. |
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