Sam Stone

From this thread in Great Debates:

Not all the people who live on them; only those whose tub-thumping caveman politics haven’t progressed since William Aberhart and his women-should-be-pregnant-and-barefoot-and-chained-to-the-stove oxymoronic Social Credit psychopathy.

They don’t have to demonize the opposition. The opposition does the job fine on its own.

Yes it is. Its only other natural resource is its never-ending supply of white supremacists who used to be teachers but now fix flats and pump gas. If it weren’t for oil, Alberta would be where it was in 1947.

You can’t say that low taxes and no sales tax are not because of oil, at least without being transparently disingenuous. The live-and-let-live attitude is apparent only when it suits the provincial Tories — they’ll be shouting about the now 30-year-old NEP bogey man into the 25th century.

You conjure up Pol Pot, the biggest mass-murderer since Hitler, and say I’d vote for him, then accuse me of hateful speech? Well take this, you white-robed cross-burning, goose-stepping chuck-wagon-horse-killing Tory toady who wouldn’t recognize satire and one-dimensional characterizations if they bit you on the ass, even after they were pointed out to the nitwit-challenged in a post above yours: Like a typical Albertan running off at the spittle-flecked mouth, you term someone from another part of the country an “internal Canadian immigrant.” Next you’ll be screaming lebensraum at the next Klan meeting. You’re the Jed Clampett of the Great White North. Yeehaw! A see-ment pond! What hath God wrought?

You’re a bunch of narrow-minded, no-forehead, inbred, fascist hog farmers knee deep in your own pig shit, sorting turds according to size while wearing paper Stetsons and U.S.-penis-envy tin stars printed with misspelled Sherrif and pinned to pink-and-blue-with-yellow-piping cowboy shirts form-fitting your beer bellies spilling over your sweat-shop Wal-Mart jeans that have no need for their tooled belts and six-inch-wide silver buckles, and never did. You think Exxon owes your 15-child Franco-worshipping Kleinzoid spawn a living because it’s beneath their dignity to work for Alberta’s 15-cents-an-hour minimum wage paid to “internal Canadian immigrants,” because, gawddammit, there’s no sales tax. Soon enough, thanks to that oil-company Bay Street ass-kisser and his puppet-master in the pocket of U.S. managed-care conglomerates who wrote a “white paper” Tory propaganda sheet on health care, you’ll be killing babies and little old ladies like there’s no tomorrow for the sake of the cash that will roll in, thanks to private medical insurance. Blow up any more hospitals lately, you stiff-armed, swastika-saluting lampshade-mongers?

Pol Pot indeed.

9.5

The writing was good, the subject matter less so. I just can’t see Sam Stone at a Klan meeting, no matter how I try, and while “sorting turds according to size” was original, I can’t really see him doing that either, paper hat or no paper hat.

Kinda the point; it was in response to Stone’s godwinny Pol Pot hyperbole.

Aw, c’mon, isn’t it refreshing to see him give a damn, however grudgingly and twistedly, about his *own * damn country’s politics for a fucking change?

Gotta agree - Klan meeting, no. For Canada’s most staunchly and reflexively loyal Republican, it would Sunday School at the Church of Ronald Reagan and Ayn Rand. Other than that, it had a good beat and you can dance to it, I give it an 80.

Tedious at best. Your main gripe seems to be that Sam doesn’t just admit he’s a racist, fascist, Nazi, misogynist, right wing extremist, child eating, SUV driving clansman. Well gee, why don’t you Sam? Jump out of that closet why don’t you? Come out and admit you’re evil. Sam mad and bad Stone.

I’m afraid my eyes glassed over half way through so I might have missed some of your nuances, but I did find it somewhat ironic that you rave about Sam’s alleged godwinny Pol Pot hyperbole, while engaging in calling him and ilk like him Nazis, fascist, women-haters and what not. As well that you complain that he doesn’t recognize satire and one-dimensional characterizations – while you apparently completely missed Sam’s use of satire and one-dimensional characterizations in his use of Pol Pot. In fact this whole rant seems based on your misunderstanding of a bit of hyperbolic irony. Perhaps there are some irony-teaching evening classes in your vicinity you could attend, as you seem to have some problems with the whole concept. Alternative you could loosen up a bit. Cut down on the coffee. Let it hang free.

Btw. Pol Pot is not the biggest mass-murderer since Hitler. That would be Mao (if we disregard Bush naturally. That George devil-spawn Bush is the worst of the lot goes without saying on SDMB)

HeHe. Nice.

Conan the Canadian will be pissed.

That was the obvious point. :rolleyes: whoosh

Let’s try it again. Jesus, why do all you conservative types have to be such hatemongering stereotyping overgeneralising bastard evil bigoted klansmen-sympathising swastika-saluting abortion-doctor-killing irony-missing-and-yet-somehow-claiming-not-to-miss nazis?

Aah, finally you speak the simple truth!

:no fucking smiley because you oughta do some sodding work to interpret the emotional register of the post you’re reading:

Ah. I didn’t read the original thread, so I missed it.

No, that would be Stalin, according to the Perfect Master.

Stalin works for me. I choose Mao because most of Stalin’s mass murdering work was already done by 1945 – while Mao was just getting fired up. And according to some Mao would come out top in any case. Juan Chan, author of Wild Swans and now Mao: the unknown story, speaks of 80 million deaths in communistic China.

Jung Chan

Mao on a pongo stick!!!

Jung Chang.

Everybody have fun tonight.
So Alberta is a Red State?

No a Blue one (up here, the Liberals are red and the Conservatives, blue).

Sam Stone drives an SUV? Then he must burn!

BTW, unless he actually is Scottish, I think the term you wanted was “Klansman”. Just sayin’.

Actually, what I wanted to say is that it’s a bit refreshing to see a spittle-flecked, purple-cheeked, throbbing-veined partisan rant concerning some other country’s politics for once. “Chuck wagon horse killing Tory toady”, man, that’s comedy gold.

If anyone in that thread needed to be pitted, it was Foaming Cleanser for making a whole array of stupid, ignorant comments about western Canada, about which he hasn’t the first fucking clue. I was offended by most of what he said, and I usually vote for the flipping NDP.

Yeah, like in the rest of the world. Honestly, how could red start meaning conservative in the US? Pop quiz: what’s the commie colour?

Canada has politics? Who knew?

Foaming cleanser…
You sir are what is wrong with the knee jerk voters in this country.

You don’t think, you don’t study you just spew the same fear mongering garbage the party in power wants you to. If you took five seconds to bother to check the record and the policies of all the parties you might find your unquestioning faith in the idiots in power is just plain fucking stupid.

I’m sick of the the deamonizing of Parties. It reeks of empty headed desperation. You have no facts to base your opinions on, so you go for the childish attack of claiming they are evil.

You are a moron… no worse you are a willfully ignorant voter.

The idiotic rhetoric you spew is just the type of garbage I expect from people who don’t bother to actually look at politics seriously. You write off every voter for the Conservatives as red necked rascists and then back a governement that is has been accused of theft of tax payer money to finance their elections because… I have no idea and neither do you. You haven’t a fucking single clue or an ounce of forsight.

You want to pretend that somehow Conservative members are all rascist homo phobes while convienently forgetting that the Liberals at one point introduced and voted in favour of defining marraige as the exclusive union between a man and a woman or the fact in the last vote there were a fair number of your wonderful open minded Liberals who voted against it.

You knock Harper without knowing a single thing about the man. Or do you really believe that he is some evil overlord out to enslave us all and make us go to church every Sunday. What a grown up world view you have there, Mommy must be proud of you when she brings the sandwhiches to you in your basement lair.

Pol pot? Well perhaps you wouldn’t vote for him but you support Mr Dithers. A “leader” who is a laughing stock and has no credibility.

A man that showed what little balls he had by sending an aid to Bush to refuse the missle defence rather than meet him face to face during a summit. A man who says that there is no need for tougher gun laws and that statistically crime is on the decline while kids are shooting each other at churches and on the streets in broad daylight. Then come election time when he knows the numerous seats in Toronto are up for grabs he suddenlt talks tough on crime.

You want to support a lying asshole who claims he was going to fix medicare and then did nothing while rolling in the huge surplus of taxpayer money like the fat hog he is.

You support a man who’s defence for not knowing about Adscam while finance minister is A) Ignorence of what was going on and B) he was cut out of the loop as he was then trying to overthrow Chretien. This makes him either incompetent or a political oppurtunist who’s only goal seems to be that he make Daddy proud by becoming leader.

That’s the politics you support… without question or thought.
You are a fucking idiot.