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Old 04-07-2006, 03:33 PM
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Do you get mad at video games?

I do. I'm not quite as bad as this guy (WARNING: loud, bad language!) but I get very, very annoyed at certain games. Even if I tell myself it's just a game, etc., I still get really angry and frustrated. Yet it's still fun. It's usually with really difficult, frustrating games like (grrr) Ninja Gaiden Black.
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:44 PM
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I get mad when I get robbed. Be it of a good/satisfying ending, or a really really impossible puzzle with no reward, or goddamn time limits.

No, I don't get mad at the good ones, though.
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:53 PM
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Only when a game blatently cheats.

Example: Earlier today I was playing some Hot Shots Golf IV for the PS2. I was moving nicely through a tournament, staying ahead of the pack. Across the back nine, "Toby" was catching up to me. As I stepped up to the 18th tee, he and I were tied at -8. I dropped in a birdie for a 9-under finish, which should've been good enough for the win. Then it showed "Toby's" performance: a birdie to finish at 10-under.

Ummm...exfuckingwellscuse me? He was just at 8-under....a birdie puts him at 9-under, not 10-under! That earned the game a quick no-save shutdown.
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:55 PM
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Holy crap! Real life pwned.nl (profanity, cartoon violence).

I definitely shouted at my TV when the final boss from FFVIII pulled off the cheapest combo ever: a move which dropped everyone's HP to 1, immediately followed by a magic spell which targeted everyone. Bascially instant death unless knew it was coming. This happened after an hour long boss fight.
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:05 PM
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I hate games that cheat. GTA does it all the time. I just finished GTA: SA, and it does the same thing. You're in a car chasing someone and there are hundreds of cars everywhere, actively messing with you. Running into, cutting you off, etc. The moment you've damaged your car enough you have to jump out and hijack another it's... ::chirp, chirp:: Not a dang car to be seen for miles.

Sorry, but that's cheating. So I cheat right back. Don't wanna give me a car? tap, tap, tappity tap tap. There! I'll just use my jetpack, you bastards!
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:05 PM
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As I stepped up to the 18th tee, he and I were tied at -8. I dropped in a birdie for a 9-under finish, which should've been good enough for the win. Then it showed "Toby's" performance: a birdie to finish at 10-under.
He was probably only on the 17th hole... and got a birdie on the last two. The other people aren't always on the same hole as you when it shows the scoreboard.
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:05 PM
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I make a distinction between games that are hard, but fair, like Call of Duty 2 on Hardened / Veteran, and games that are just gratuitously hard, like the bosses in Gaiden.

In COD2, if you play carefully and pay attention, you can get through every situation. Occasionally one of your NPC guys will stand behind you like a moron, blocking your exit from a room with a grenade in it, or will stand there shouting "potato masher!" and get blown up, but other than that it rewards good play.

Then you have characters like the airship boss on Gaiden, who can surround himself with a shield if you do too well against him, grab you and throttle you if you get too close, or zap you with an undodgeable laser from the other side of the arena if you keep your distance.
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:06 PM
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I hate games that cheat. GTA does it all the time. I just finished GTA: SA, and it does the same thing. You're in a car chasing someone and there are hundreds of cars everywhere, actively messing with you. Running into, cutting you off, etc. The moment you've damaged your car enough you have to jump out and hijack another it's... ::chirp, chirp:: Not a dang car to be seen for miles.
Not to mention the guy you're chasing taking turns at full speed and staying on the road. I couldn't even keep up with the damn fire truck...
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:30 PM
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I don't get mad. But I refuse to buy any strategy game which doesn't indicate whether it's real-time or turn-based. I also hate linear games.
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Old 04-07-2006, 05:04 PM
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Nothing get's me more pissed than when I'm playing GTA and I've invested ten or fifteen minutes on a mission only to blow it when I'm seconds away from completing it, and now I have to do it all over again.

Or... if I'm playing chess on yahoo and I make a bonehead move and some guy I could wipe the floor with makes me pay for it.
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Old 04-07-2006, 05:08 PM
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Nothing get's me more pissed than when I'm playing GTA and I've invested ten or fifteen minutes on a mission only to blow it when I'm seconds away from completing it, and now I have to do it all over again.
That's a bit like on Need for Speed, when you've run a perfect race and are 30 seconds ahead of your rivals, then you plow into what looks like one of the many destructible bits of scenery but actually brings you to a halt, so you can watch the others race past you.
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Old 04-07-2006, 05:11 PM
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He was probably only on the 17th hole... and got a birdie on the last two. The other people aren't always on the same hole as you when it shows the scoreboard.
Naa, it's just plain 'ol cheating. Although they may run the tourney with a shotgun start, you've all still played the same amount of holes. When I finish the first hole, "Toby" shows on the scoreboard as finishing a hole as well.
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Old 04-07-2006, 05:55 PM
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I hate games that cheat. GTA does it all the time. I just finished GTA: SA, and it does the same thing. You're in a car chasing someone and there are hundreds of cars everywhere, actively messing with you. Running into, cutting you off, etc. The moment you've damaged your car enough you have to jump out and hijack another it's... ::chirp, chirp:: Not a dang car to be seen for miles.

Sorry, but that's cheating. So I cheat right back. Don't wanna give me a car? tap, tap, tappity tap tap. There! I'll just use my jetpack, you bastards!
I had some of the same problems with Vice city.

Particulary "The Driver", when the cops notice you drag racing another guy, but they only try to smash your car into the wall. And if you finish just behind the other guy, his car will slow to a stop and be empty(so you can't beat the living crap out of him).

Or you've got a bunch of haitians trying to kill you, but if you start trying to kill them, the cops immediatly come down on your ass? Dude, what about the gang of heavily armed hatians, SHOOTING AT ME? Why do they get a free pass?
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Old 04-07-2006, 06:00 PM
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Poor AI is sometimes frustrating. I was playing "Rome: Total War" last night and I had two armies besieging a gallic city. One was huge, and the other pretty small. The gauls attacked my smaller army, but my larger army was there as reinforcements.

Unfortunatly, somehow they ended up computer controlled, with me controlling the smaller army. I thought, "hey, no big deal. I'll just link up with the big army and kick their french asses". Except the bigger, AI army, took their dear sweet time getting there, so I had to fight off a number of attacked with just my small forces.

I even managed to get inside the gates and "Capture the walls". Unfortunally, my bigger army just marched around outside it, doing nothing. Apparently because the AI is that of a retarded monkey.

I ended up having to use my small force to take the entire city myself. I felt good when I finished, and it makes an interesting story, but I really hate the AI now.
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Old 04-07-2006, 06:06 PM
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Only one case I remember getting "mad" at a video game (though it wasn't really getting "mad" per se, I was just letting out my agressions): I recall when I was younger shouting at Ganondorf and calling him an idiot several times during the final boss battle in The Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time. Nowadays, I would probably be more like, "oh well, it's only a game, I'll get him next time."
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Old 04-07-2006, 06:07 PM
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I only get mad at games that I can't beat. I'm supposed to be smarter than a bunch of electronics, dammit!
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Old 04-07-2006, 08:58 PM
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I hate random encounters, especially when you're trying to map the area and the monsters just keep popping up. Oh and my mum likes to play an impossibly arcane Chinese card game on the computer. It cheats. Cheating card programs suck.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:05 PM
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I rarely get so frustrated with a game I compulsively shut it down and uninstall it. Black and White 2 just had me at my limit. There was one level where everytime I started to get my little city together and really get going, the enemy would hail down freaking tornadoes and earthquakes and then immediately attack. And it wasn't just one or two in the level.. it was constant, about every twenty minutes or so. I still haven't reinstalled it, though I would like to play it again.
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:03 PM
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I rarely get so frustrated with a game I compulsively shut it down and uninstall it. Black and White 2 just had me at my limit...
Oi, I hear you there. B&W was a great game but DAMN the freaking enemy did some MEAN stuff...

But overall, as long as the rewards are substatial enough, I'll play through just about anything, or try to. Hmmm, rewards... I gotta go find Gals Panic again now...
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:06 PM
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I don't really have much excuse to, because I'm terrible, but yes. "#@#*%&#$! You stupid piece of $#*&#$! Run the other way! The other way!"

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Old 04-07-2006, 11:25 PM
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I hate games that cheat. GTA does it all the time. I just finished GTA: SA, and it does the same thing. You're in a car chasing someone and there are hundreds of cars everywhere, actively messing with you. Running into, cutting you off, etc. The moment you've damaged your car enough you have to jump out and hijack another it's... ::chirp, chirp:: Not a dang car to be seen for miles.

Sorry, but that's cheating. So I cheat right back. Don't wanna give me a car? tap, tap, tappity tap tap. There! I'll just use my jetpack, you bastards!
I 've played this game twice through and only used cheats for fun (then stopped and reloaded) and to show others 'what's possible'. The second time through I finished the Firefighter missions so the Final mission was easier to complete.

I think it's likely that you may be confusing your inability to play this game with the game 'cheating'. Just because it's not as easy as you'd like it to be does not equal the game taking advantage of you.
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:36 PM
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I 've played this game twice through and only used cheats for fun (then stopped and reloaded) and to show others 'what's possible'. The second time through I finished the Firefighter missions so the Final mission was easier to complete.

I think it's likely that you may be confusing your inability to play this game with the game 'cheating'. Just because it's not as easy as you'd like it to be does not equal the game taking advantage of you.
That's funny. I never played any fire truck missions and beat the final mission on my second try.

What's that got to do with there being cars everywhere until you jump out of your car and then every car in town disappears? What kind of game physics is that?
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:36 PM
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I used to get really pissed at games, to the point where I'd be slamming my hand on the keyboard or punching the monitor. Then one time, I was playing Wing Commander, and I got so frustrated I kicked apart a chair. That really made me step back and think, "If I'm playing a game right now, why aren't I having fun?" Since then, I've been much more laid back about it, although I do get frustrated sometimes, and will occasionally let out a good string of profanities at the screen when three different empires simultaneously declare war on me in Civ IV. I don't hit stuff any more, though, I just stop playing.
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:38 PM
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That really made me step back and think, "If I'm playing a game right now, why aren't I having fun?"
(Also, "Oh shit, what am I going to tell my mom?" That was definitly a major factor.)










(I think I told her I tripped and fell on it.)
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:43 PM
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That's funny. I never played any fire truck missions and beat the final mission on my second try.

What's that got to do with there being cars everywhere until you jump out of your car and then every car in town disappears? What kind of game physics is that?
Well A) That wouldn't be physics, that would be more like AI.
B) Are you talking about free play or a specific 'mission'? Sorry, I just don't get your "The game is cheating" problem, with regards to this game. PS2 version, correct? If not, then what the hell do I know?
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:59 PM
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I only really play one game (well, two if you think of Halo I&II as truly separate games). I don't really get mad at it. But there are certainly times when I think I'm kicking serious Covenant butt, and suddenly a Hunter comes outta nowhere and whomps me lethally upside th' haid, I'll let a few F bombs drop.
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:04 AM
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The Madden games cheat like crazy. If you've got a lead in the 4th quarter the game always makes you fumble or the AI makes impossible interceptions or you get called for some bullshit penalty.

Also, if the AI has the ball in a two minute drill, the quarterback suddenly starts throwing laser beam passed 50 yards down field even if you're playing your safest prevent defense.
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:06 AM
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Black and White. Never before or since have I engaged in such egregious acts of animal abuse.

But damn, that monkey was stupid. Stop eating villagers, dammit!
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:09 AM
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Well A) That wouldn't be physics, that would be more like AI.
Actually, it's neither. It's a balance issue. The designers wanted a certain level of difficulty in the missions, so they altered the spawn rate of other vehicles under different circumstances in order to achieve that difficulty. That's not cheating, that's just making a difficult game. Personally, I don't think its possible for a video game to cheat. Cheating means breaking the rules, and in a video game, the game is the rules. That's what computer code is, basically. Whatever the game does is within the rules by definition. The other side of that, of course, is that short of using third-party hacks, it's also impossible for the player to cheat. If there's a jet pack code in GTA, it's because you're suposed to use it.

'Course, there's cheat, and then there's cheap. That boss fight in Final Fantasy VIII mentioned earlier isn't cheating, but it sure as fuck is cheap.
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:36 AM
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Actually, it's neither. It's a balance issue. The designers wanted a certain level of difficulty in the missions, so they altered the spawn rate of other vehicles under different circumstances in order to achieve that difficulty. That's not cheating, that's just making a difficult game..
I don't know if it's called physics or AI, but I still think it's cheating. A game creates an environment and sets some ground rules you're forced to work within. No prob. But the game can't then just grossly violate its own rules.
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Old 04-08-2006, 02:22 AM
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I often talk smack to my computer or television screen as I'm playing, or provide a running commentary on the action (which is usually me saying "no, nonoonononononono! Nooooo! Oh! YES! NONO!" over and over again). However, I never really get angry at the game, and usually go up in flames and a fit of giggles. Even in EQ2 - dying is funny. As long as I'm not taking everyone else with me, if I do something stupid enough to get myself killed, I laugh. I don't, however, like jerk players. I don't usually get angry, but my husband tends to notice that I'm scowling, and I move on to some other place. I'm not very confrontational, and I won't deal with jerks. However, MMORPGs are different in that you have to deal with live people. Any other games? Nah. They can get tedious, but even at their most frustrating, I'm usually just thinking of new ways to get the job done, be it a boss, a puzzle, a race, or a damn good computer opponent.

Admittedly, my "running commentary" can sometimes sound as though I am angry. I swear like a sailor, much to my sainted mother's dismay. My husband, on the other hand, finds it endearing.
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Old 04-08-2006, 03:40 AM
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Last night I got super mad at Kingdom Hearts II. It was midnight. I had breezed through the game, and was fighting the last boss. No problem right? Maybe he'll take thirty or forty minutes to kill with the traditional end-boss shapeshifting fight, then I can get some sleep.

Fifteen form changes later, it's 3:00 in the morning, I haven't ended the battle yet, and there hasn't been a save point. I was so mad at the developers. It was cheap as hell for the last boss fight to take many hours to finish.

I finally shut the game off and went to bed. I don't know if I'll care to finish it. That's pretty sad, I would have given the game an "A" rating until this point.
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Old 04-08-2006, 04:15 AM
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I'm quite a trash talker in Halo 2. Yeah, I know it's immature, but it has to be done to compensate for all of those times these kids call me n00b or something after they kill me. There's nothing worse than getting beat down and then overhearing some douchebag tell his teammates how he "totally pwn3d that guy!!!11." I generally try to personalize my insults. They take it pretty personally when you insult their gamertag or something along those lines.
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Old 04-08-2006, 07:58 AM
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I only really play one game (well, two if you think of Halo I&II as truly separate games). I don't really get mad at it. But there are certainly times when I think I'm kicking serious Covenant butt, and suddenly a Hunter comes outta nowhere and whomps me lethally upside th' haid, I'll let a few F bombs drop.
What about the ending of Halo II? Never before have I been so annoyed at a game;
General Guy: Master Chief, what are you doing??
Master Chief: Finishing this fight!
Me: Hell yeah! *grips controller ready*
Game: *ends*
Me:.......! You bastard.
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Old 04-08-2006, 10:57 AM
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What about the ending of Halo II? Never before have I been so annoyed at a game;
General Guy: Master Chief, what are you doing??
Master Chief: Finishing this fight!
Me: Hell yeah! *grips controller ready*
Game: *ends*
Me:.......! You bastard.
You owe me a good fight.
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Old 04-08-2006, 11:33 AM
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I hated the total lack of cars in some parts of GTA: Vice City. As levdrakon says, you can't have every car in the city trying to run you off the road, and when you bail out, leave you with naught but tumbleweeds and MISSION FAILED displayed on screen. That's the game cheating, IMO.

I used to play both Shogun: Total War and Medieval: Total War a lot. A lot.

And I used to get royally pissed when, after my Empire was suitably huge, one of two things would happen:

Every other Clan/Faction's Daimyo/King would die with no heirs, leaving me to constantly scrap against the Ronin/Rebels (Not as much of an issue in M:TW because the Rebels put up a decent fight, but in S:TW even a pathetic army of peasants and maybe a couple of arquebusiers/archers could pwn huge Ronin armies with few casualties, removing most of the challenge from the game), or

Clans/Factions I'd been allied with for CENTURIES, and whom I had bailed out of the shit more times than I could remember (lifting sieges on their castles, returning provinces to them, generally watching their backs), would suddenly declare war on me and attack! Worse, the bigger your Empire, the more likely this was to happen, meaning that you'd just get to the point where your Empire was doing well, everyone was happy, and you'd built some high-level buildings in some of your more productive provinces, and BAM! You've got the Sicilians blockading your trade, the Italians levelling all your crops, and the Pope excommunicating you for trying to lift the siege on the Citadel that your King happened to be in when the Holy Roman Empire decided to give themselves some Lebensraum.

Otherwise, a fun game, and great for taking all your time and teaching you the intricacies of Medieval Warfare...

Of course, who can forget that old chestnut in the original Civilisation: A Phalanx taking out Battleships.

Overlooking the logical impossibility of this , it happened all the time- Phalanx units wiping out my Panzer Legions (How??? The tanks wouldn't even have to stop moving, much less fire their guns!), Guys with clubs and pointy sticks beating Infantrymen with rifles (Yes, OK, it happened at Isandhlwana and a few other places in RL, but other Civ players know what I mean here), Ironclads beating modern Destroyers (I didn't know the Victorians possessed the ability to counter laser-guided Surface to Surface Missiles!), and many, many other WTF moments. Still, the Civ series of games (In which I include SMAC and Colonisation) are, to me, the very epitome of Why PC Games Rock On Every Possible Level.

Oh, and finally, in some of the old Point 'n Click adventure games... anyone else feel like a spot of "Hunt The Pixel"?
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Old 04-08-2006, 11:50 AM
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That sometimes happens to me in games where they let you spend as much time as you want getting stronger. For instance, X-Men Legends II. I spent too much time goofing off and building my powers & skills and the final boss fight ended up being a disappointing snoozer.

OTOH, the two games that have made me the most childishly, furiously need-a-time-out were Metroid Prime & MP Echoes. Geez, the game makes you get pretty good, and by the time of the final boss battle you're all decked out with weapons, armor etc and you think you're ready to kick some ass. Then the final boss is like, 100 times harder than you're ready for. Those games made me almost want to start crying, I was so frustrated.
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Old 04-08-2006, 11:53 AM
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Well, I've had a level 60 toon for a few months now in WoW. I'm also an alt-o-holic, so I've re-rolled numerous times already. Eventually I get tired and roll a horde druid which I level to 60 in a couple months to join the other half of my guild in MC.

Once that's done, back to my human warrior.

It is at this point that I realise just how ridiculous the Alliance lands are for levelling. Virtually every mob you meet from levels 10-30 live in groups. Gnolls, murlocs, orcs, you name it. And I don't mean just that they're all in the same area. I mean they're usually too close together to pull seperately, so you'll almost always get two or more. Which is great fun when you're after mobs 2 levels above you for a quest (IOW, stuff you'd be able to take solo no problem, but have no chance against if you're fighting more than one). And with all of these types of enemies being humanoid, damned near every single one of them starts to run away at low health too, almost invariably drawing more enemies. GAH!

Don't even get me started on that witch Tabitha who lives in the middle of a freaking swamp, who I have to visit every 5 levels as a mage. Or the artisan enchanter trainer, who lives IN THE MIDDLE OF A TROGG-INFESTED EXCAVATION SITE.
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:32 PM
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Also, if the AI has the ball in a two minute drill, the quarterback suddenly starts throwing laser beam passed 50 yards down field even if you're playing your safest prevent defense.
While I agree that Madden still cheats like crazy, you sure that bit is not just because you're playing a prevent defense? Remember what they say about the prevent.

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Last night I got super mad at Kingdom Hearts II. It was midnight. I had breezed through the game, and was fighting the last boss. No problem right? Maybe he'll take thirty or forty minutes to kill with the traditional end-boss shapeshifting fight, then I can get some sleep.

Fifteen form changes later, it's 3:00 in the morning, I haven't ended the battle yet, and there hasn't been a save point. I was so mad at the developers. It was cheap as hell for the last boss fight to take many hours to finish.

I finally shut the game off and went to bed. I don't know if I'll care to finish it. That's pretty sad, I would have given the game an "A" rating until this point.
Every once in a while I think about picking up Kingdom Hearts but haven't. I also keep hoping the game will be more like this.
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:50 PM
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Every once in a while I think about picking up Kingdom Hearts but haven't. I also keep hoping the game will be more like this.
I laughed for a good five minutes at that. Awesome.

I'm currently playing though it right now and let me tell you, you haven't lived 'til you've seen Ariel slap the crap out of Ursula with her fin or smacked Wakka in the face with his own blitzball. Its' one of the best games I've ever played.
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Old 04-08-2006, 01:14 PM
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Hey, complaining about the end of Halo2 is one thing... But remember when games didnt have endings, they just repeated levels? I remember old amstrad or commodore games, platform titles with twenty screens or so. You would bust your balls getting to screen twenty... here it comes, ten years old and my first completed game.... Oh. Right back at screen one. Continue in a loop, ad infinitum. Imagine if that happened in todays games? Murders. There would be fucking murders.


I do get mad at games... shit, I get mad at everything. Super monkey ball.... Dont talk to me.

The one thing that I do hate about games is, mainly, the controller design. Since the playstation 1 controllers are mainly of the two-fork variety. Sits comfortably in your hand, yes? Unfortunatly, whenever a game screws you royally, it takes but a simple wrist twist (with the added foot pounds of pressure that you can only muster after the end of level boss that you had down to a pixel of energy transforms into a nuclear battlestation complete with a thousand homing missiles) to snap that controller into two.

I lose most of my controllers this way.
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Old 04-08-2006, 01:35 PM
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I don't know if it's called physics or AI, but I still think it's cheating. A game creates an environment and sets some ground rules you're forced to work within. No prob. But the game can't then just grossly violate its own rules.

in reference to Gta (any of them) I think you guys are suffering some delusions here. the "cheat" where you are in need of a car and there are none to be found crops up while driving around doing nothing at all ALOT.

I used to call it the Vanilla Sky effect because it reminded me of the early scene where there was noone around in the whole city.
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Old 04-08-2006, 01:55 PM
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I only get mad at games that I can't beat. I'm supposed to be smarter than a bunch of electronics, dammit!
I think this is the crux of my problem. I'm actually mad at myself because I subconsciously feel that I should be able to beat any game; it's just a damn computer, after all. Never mind that there are chess programs that play at Kasparov's level. Or that some games are tweaked for the reflexes of a teenager (which I'm far from being).

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Then one time, I was playing Wing Commander, and I got so frustrated I kicked apart a chair. That really made me step back and think, "If I'm playing a game right now, why aren't I having fun?"
I've had exactly this thought before. But on some deeper level, I'm still having fun, however angry I get. It's a weird dichotomy.

I think the only time I actually destroyed a piece of hardware was when Slime Volleyball cost me a keyboard. Anyone who's played it (Google it if you're interested) will know what I mean.
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Old 04-08-2006, 05:23 PM
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The Madden games cheat like crazy. If you've got a lead in the 4th quarter the game always makes you fumble or the AI makes impossible interceptions or you get called for some bullshit penalty.

Also, if the AI has the ball in a two minute drill, the quarterback suddenly starts throwing laser beam passed 50 yards down field even if you're playing your safest prevent defense.

Ah...the No Fucking Way drive. I HATES me some of that. You'll shut out the computer and be stomping it down...and then...you an't sotp them. There's NOTHING you can do to stop them. They just slowly melt through your defense and score on you. If you hold them to a field goal, it's all (relative) gravy.

The worst is when your blitz gets picked up and you KNOW what side of the field has the worse coverage...then you watch Favre dodge a tackle or two and ump fake, then throw to the side that has the worse coverage. Ah, yes..the feeling of ineptitude when you put the controller down when the ball is in midair because f you hit a button, you'll mess up the AI controlled defensive back.

Then you get to watch your All-Pro cornerback flail his arm helplessly as the ball gets completed and you give up an 86 yard TD in overtime.

Nope, never happened to me.
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Old 04-08-2006, 05:27 PM
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I try to avoid video games that frustrate me, but most recently I did find myself grating at the unfairness of the AI in Dynasty Warriors 5 - no matter which side I support, my allies are always f*ing incompetent, and my enemies l33t kickass warriors.

Fortunately, I've learned to anticipate some of the more annoying aspects of the game, so I've prevented a lot of grief by taking the initiative.

I still hate those f*ing arbalests, though. *shakes fist*
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Old 04-08-2006, 05:31 PM
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I hated the total lack of cars in some parts of GTA: Vice City. As levdrakon says, you can't have every car in the city trying to run you off the road, and when you bail out, leave you with naught but tumbleweeds and MISSION FAILED displayed on screen. That's the game cheating, IMO.

I used to play both Shogun: Total War and Medieval: Total War a lot. A lot.

And I used to get royally pissed when, after my Empire was suitably huge, one of two things would happen:

Every other Clan/Faction's Daimyo/King would die with no heirs, leaving me to constantly scrap against the Ronin/Rebels (Not as much of an issue in M:TW because the Rebels put up a decent fight, but in S:TW even a pathetic army of peasants and maybe a couple of arquebusiers/archers could pwn huge Ronin armies with few casualties, removing most of the challenge from the game), or

Clans/Factions I'd been allied with for CENTURIES, and whom I had bailed out of the shit more times than I could remember (lifting sieges on their castles, returning provinces to them, generally watching their backs), would suddenly declare war on me and attack! Worse, the bigger your Empire, the more likely this was to happen, meaning that you'd just get to the point where your Empire was doing well, everyone was happy, and you'd built some high-level buildings in some of your more productive provinces, and BAM! You've got the Sicilians blockading your trade, the Italians levelling all your crops, and the Pope excommunicating you for trying to lift the siege on the Citadel that your King happened to be in when the Holy Roman Empire decided to give themselves some Lebensraum.

Otherwise, a fun game, and great for taking all your time and teaching you the intricacies of Medieval Warfare...

Of course, who can forget that old chestnut in the original Civilisation: A Phalanx taking out Battleships.

Overlooking the logical impossibility of this , it happened all the time- Phalanx units wiping out my Panzer Legions (How??? The tanks wouldn't even have to stop moving, much less fire their guns!), Guys with clubs and pointy sticks beating Infantrymen with rifles (Yes, OK, it happened at Isandhlwana and a few other places in RL, but other Civ players know what I mean here), Ironclads beating modern Destroyers (I didn't know the Victorians possessed the ability to counter laser-guided Surface to Surface Missiles!), and many, many other WTF moments. Still, the Civ series of games (In which I include SMAC and Colonisation) are, to me, the very epitome of Why PC Games Rock On Every Possible Level.

Oh, and finally, in some of the old Point 'n Click adventure games... anyone else feel like a spot of "Hunt The Pixel"?

Total War: Medieval really wanted to screw me over like this. I'd start off as Spain, Buy off some rebels, then start churning out Crusades. They give you fun, nifty, otherwise-untrainable soldiers for Crusades...how fun! So I get my boats around the globe, dominate trade and have the never-ending crusade all the way until the Mongols come around. That's one HELL of a fight, I tells ya. Definitely need a few spare hours to finish it up, that's for sure. So, I beats the Mongols, and am looking like Superfly TNT and get most of the known universe under my grasp. Then...I get to the last few provinces (almost always the Papal states...I don't like getting excommunicated if I can help it) and I get widespread, global, devastating rebellion. Whatthefuckareyoutalingabout...I controlled these lands for 200 years!! How can my homeland rebel on me??

Yeah, I still don't know what you're talking about...*ahem*
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Old 04-08-2006, 05:36 PM
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in reference to Gta (any of them) I think you guys are suffering some delusions here. the "cheat" where you are in need of a car and there are none to be found crops up while driving around doing nothing at all ALOT.

I used to call it the Vanilla Sky effect because it reminded me of the early scene where there was noone around in the whole city.
One of the 'rules' of the game is, depending where you are, what time of day it is, what you happen to be driving, will determine what vehicles are around. If you're in the country, you're likely to see mostly tractors, RV's & the occasional Harley. I can handle that. If you're not on a mission and you jump out of your flaming car, the game will deny you a replacement in the direction you're looking. But if you stand in the middle of the road, a vehicle will pull up behind you.

It's not what the rest of us are talking about though. You're on a mission, you bail, but before you bailed you used your rearview and saw six cars behind you. Once you bail those six cars dematerialized. Nuh-uh! That's cheatin'!
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Old 04-08-2006, 05:39 PM
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I'm glad Xbox Live doesn't work at my school. Not only would the GPA drop campus-wide, but our troupe of 30 people that play Halo2 on system link would be eternally pissed. Not to mention that I'd only play with about..oh...4 of them.

I was a wrecking ball on Live when it came to Halo2. I win 6 on 1 games on system link (50 to 15 was a good night). I get bitched at so many times on system link. I LOVE being That Guy. I LOVE it when do something absurd and kill the other team and hear them all bitching at me.

It's good to be the king.



By the way, invoking the jetpack in GTA is cheating. You're just trying to defend it.
If there are no cars around (and I KNOW what you're talking about...it's definitely a hyper-bitch to deal with), you keep on truckin', take the alleys, and play on. Cheat codes are cheat codes. They're not in games to be used, they're in games to enhance it.

Just because salt exists doesn't mean you put it in every dish you make.
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Old 04-08-2006, 06:26 PM
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Example: Earlier today I was playing some Hot Shots Golf IV for the PS2. I was moving nicely through a tournament, staying ahead of the pack. Across the back nine, "Toby" was catching up to me. As I stepped up to the 18th tee, he and I were tied at -8. I dropped in a birdie for a 9-under finish, which should've been good enough for the win. Then it showed "Toby's" performance: a birdie to finish at 10-under.
That kind of crap happens on Tiger Woods too. When you get way up there you can score -40 or so in a tournament. Well about half way through the year the computer starts scoring that good too. Yesterday I was playing, I was at -30 or so, the next guy started out around the same. Half way through he was at -20?! then a couple of holes later he was at -35?!? Then he ended up at -40. Must be nice to be able to shoot so well when I land a shot a foot from the hole and three putt.

I've been getting mad a Guitar Hero, while there's no cheating, I can't get through a couple of songs and I've been trying for weeks. Some days I get 90% through, the next 9%. Damn Cowboys from Hell.
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Old 04-08-2006, 06:42 PM
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By the way, invoking the jetpack in GTA is cheating. You're just trying to defend it.
Making all the cars disappear is cheating. Invoking a jetpack is counter-cheating, which I freely admit to. It's not like I invoked the "instantly pass this mission" cheat.
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