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Old 12-09-2006, 09:13 AM
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Can Bolivia make a case for commercial coca production?

Is their new leader a farmer's advocate or a drug lord with a respectable title?
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Old 12-09-2006, 09:48 AM
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Well, there are legitimate pharmalogical and industrial uses for the coca plant. [*sniff*] I mean, it doesn't necessarily make [*sniff*] Morales a drug dealer.
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Old 12-10-2006, 11:04 AM
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Toothpaste? Gimme a break
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Old 12-10-2006, 11:13 AM
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Toothpaste? Gimme a break
Why not? It's a popularly used substance in that geographical area of the world.
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Old 12-10-2006, 12:00 PM
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I was just in Peru. Coca leaves are legal and widely available. You can get Coca tea almost everywhere and people chew the leaves. The effects are mild and help combat hunger, tiredness, and altitude sickness. It's a shame that peasants can't grow and sell the leaves. Can you imagine the global market if Starbucks sold Coca tea?

It takes an absurd amount of leaves to make cocaine, so putting an export tax on the leaves would make it uneconomical to use for that purpose.
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Old 12-10-2006, 02:06 PM
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Why not? It's a popularly used substance in that geographical area of the world.
Indeed. Why should our problems give us the right to dictate Bolivia's drug policy for them?

It all comes down to the whole legalization issue, but a regulated legal market would have to be better than the way the drug trade works now. Besides, brewing up some coca tea is hardly the same thing as freebasing the refined drug.

I don't get the toothpaste angle either, though. Do people down there tend to have bad teeth that hurt, due to insufficient dental care?
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Old 12-10-2006, 07:36 PM
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I don't know what coca leaves taste like, but one can find toothpaste flavored with orange, cinnamon, green tea, etc. People who chew coca and drink coca tea may enjoy coca-flavored toothpaste.
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Old 12-10-2006, 09:27 PM
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Bear in mind that the coca leaf extracts contain alkaloids other than cocaine alongwith various nutrients like vitamins. Ethnographic studies dating back to the 19th and 20th century show that the psychoactive profile of coca is not just the result of cocaine. Due to two factors - 1)the inability (or crude ability) of the third-person scientific approach to properly evaluate phenomenal activity, 2)the tendency of Western science to want to isolate activity within simple unitary agents which are convenient to study - cocaine has been implicated as the sole cause within the coca leaf. The prohibitionary ethos which has extended over to academic and commercial pharmacology due to the WoD means that there's not much enthusiasm to decide these matters, given the token preset political goal of "eradicating" its presence.

Just to update matters, not only Coca mate (tea) but there are a couple of soft drinks a la original Coca Cola as well.
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:00 PM
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Just to update matters, not only Coca mate (tea) but there are a couple of soft drinks a la original Coca Cola as well.
Coca Cola is still made with coca leaves -- "spent" leaves from which the cocaine has been extracted; presumably they're just in there for the flavor.
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