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Old 03-12-2007, 09:36 AM
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What's the Greek word for "stupid"?

What is the Greek word for "stupid"? What is its spelling in Greek letters? Beggars shouldn't be choosers, but - if you can, please write out the English names of the letters, like "alpha beta", so there's no chance font foibles will corrupt your answer.

Is there a word that more specifically suggests what I'd call "Luddite", expressing a foolish and stubborn refusal to adopt modern viewpoints to a degree that is destructive?

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Old 03-12-2007, 09:38 AM
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The oldest official greek term for "stupid" is Turk.

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Old 03-12-2007, 09:41 AM
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FWIW, I seem to remember that the original Greek for "idiot" meant "one who takes no role in governance."
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:05 AM
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I think the most common word is amathÍs (alpha mu alpha theta eta sigma) - literally, unlearned. I can't think of a word to describe the more specific kind of stupidity you're looking for, especially since progress wasn't really a virtue in Greece.
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:11 AM
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No "W" in the Greek alphabet, unfortunately.
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:24 AM
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I tell ya, those Greeks is pretty smart....
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:41 AM
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Cyprus.net's English-Classic Greek lexicon gives asynetos as the proper translation of stupid. (Middle vowels are upsilon and epsilon.)

Not asked, but the Latin word is stultus.
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:53 AM
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I tell ya, those Greeks is pretty smart....
They're well-reared.
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Old 03-12-2007, 12:04 PM
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Any minute now, someone's gonna make a crowbar joke....
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Old 03-12-2007, 03:27 PM
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Hmm... how about μоρоς (moros), from which we get moron?

That's Mu, Omicron, Rho, Omicron, Sigma.

That's Classical Attic Greek, of course.

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Old 03-12-2007, 03:44 PM
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Aphron (alpha phi rho omega nu) is an adjective meaning "senseless, brainless, stupid."

Like Quartz says, Moros is "foolish" or "fool."

(Hey, Quartz, how did you code that Greek font?)
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Old 03-12-2007, 03:54 PM
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Aphron (alpha phi rho omega nu) is an adjective meaning "senseless, brainless, stupid."

Like Quartz says, Moros is "foolish" or "fool."

(Hey, Quartz, how did you code that Greek font?)

(Crooning) Put them all together they spell Dubya.
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Old 03-12-2007, 04:32 PM
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Aphron (alpha phi rho omega nu) is an adjective meaning "senseless, brainless, stupid."
That'd be from 'α' for 'not' and 'φρων' for 'brain', IIRC. Actually, isn't that simply the stem of the adjective, which would be 'αφρωνος' for the nominative singular? Or am I mixing modern and classical Greek?

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Old 03-12-2007, 05:03 PM
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That'd be from 'α' for 'not' and 'φρων' for 'brain', IIRC.
a "without" and phren (with an eta) "mind, sense, judgement."
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Actually, isn't that simply the stem of the adjective, which would be 'αφρωνος' for the nominative singular? Or am I mixing modern and classical Greek?
I don't know Modern Greek but aphron just declines as is (aphron, aphrou, etc.) I think phren declines as feminine, though (phren, phrene).

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Old 03-12-2007, 05:30 PM
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Old 03-12-2007, 06:08 PM
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What is the Greek word for "stupid"? What is its spelling in Greek letters? Beggars shouldn't be choosers, but - if you can, please write out the English names of the letters, like "alpha beta", so there's no chance font foibles will corrupt your answer.
Stupid: ηλίθιος (eta, lambda, iota, theta, iota, omicron, sigma)

or βλάκας (beta, lambda, alpha, kappa, alpha, sigma)

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Is there a word that more specifically suggests what I'd call "Luddite", expressing a foolish and stubborn refusal to adopt modern viewpoints to a degree that is destructive?
Luddite: λουδιστής

Source: http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr
I didn't know λουδιστής was a term used in Greek. But I googled the term and found discussions in Greek using it in the sense of Luddite, so I guess people do use it.
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:31 AM
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I dunno.... it's Greek to me!

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Old 03-13-2007, 10:52 AM
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In ancient Greek, it's aphrwn, aphronos (gen.).
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:40 AM
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Old 03-13-2007, 04:26 PM
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Kevbo, excellent question.

No, the situation is that I use Greek letters in mathematical physics and have a special need to represent what I think is a stupidly defined parameter.

Folks, I now have a variety of excellent tools in my box - thanks!
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:13 PM
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No "W" in the Greek alphabet, unfortunately.
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(Crooning) Put them all together they spell Dubya.
BarnOwl, please leave politically charged statements out of GQ.

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