Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-13-2007, 07:45 AM
Jinx Jinx is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Lost In Space
Posts: 7,778
Pachelbel's Canon: A Xmas Song?

Was Pachelbel's Canon, a classic music piece, originally written to be a Xmas piece? Or, has it shown up in recent years on radio incorporated into one?
  #2  
Old 12-13-2007, 08:29 AM
Mahna Mahna Mahna Mahna is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Canadia, eh?
Posts: 3,686
Funny, I've always associated Canon with weddings, mostly because every time someone hires a string quarter to play before the ceremony it's a near-guarantee that they'll segue into Canon at some point.

Mmmmm... bland.

I think it may be gaining popularity as a Christmas piece since it's bland, innocuous, and catchy enough that most people no longer think of it as "classical music". However, Handel would be rolling over in his grave if he knew his masterpiece was being played alongside White Christmas and The Little Drummer Boy whilst we run around the grocery store trying to find the last can of cranberry sauce.
  #3  
Old 12-13-2007, 08:30 AM
ErinPuff ErinPuff is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,527
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahna Mahna
However, Handel would be rolling over in his grave if he knew his masterpiece was being played alongside White Christmas and The Little Drummer Boy whilst we run around the grocery store trying to find the last can of cranberry sauce.
...Handel?
  #4  
Old 12-13-2007, 08:45 AM
Mahna Mahna Mahna Mahna is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Canadia, eh?
Posts: 3,686
Quote:
Originally Posted by ErinPuff
...Handel?
Gah. This is what happens when I start digging around my head for Baroque holiday music before I've finished my morning coffee.

(in my defence, I'm pretty sure both Handel AND Pachebel are rolling over in their graves over the whole supermarket Muzak thing)
  #5  
Old 12-13-2007, 08:45 AM
Liberal Liberal is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Gone
Posts: 39,401
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
Was Pachelbel's Canon, a classic music piece, originally written to be a Xmas piece? Or, has it shown up in recent years on radio incorporated into one?
I'd bet heavily on the latter. He wrote a number of church pieces and some pieces based on Lutheran hymns. But Canon was a chamber piece specifically, which doesn't exempt it from being a Christmas song per se, but given his other works, if his intention had been to celebrate the Lord's birth, his subtlety was unprecedented.

Last edited by Liberal; 12-13-2007 at 08:45 AM.
  #6  
Old 12-13-2007, 08:53 AM
JpnDude JpnDude is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 1,231
Wrong forum. Deleted by me. Sorry.

Last edited by JpnDude; 12-13-2007 at 08:57 AM. Reason: Wrong forum post.
  #7  
Old 12-13-2007, 09:45 AM
Eureka Eureka is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Posts: 5,331
I've played a version of Pachebel's canon on handbells, blended with a piano and choir singing "The First Noel". Neat, but rhythmically trickier than our group could really manage.

(Still, I'm voting with the others, it's a neat instrumental song, so it shows up during the season of music--otherwise known as Christmas).
  #8  
Old 12-13-2007, 04:22 PM
Cunctator Cunctator is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 11,386
I've sung a version of The First Nowell set to Pachelbel's Canon.
  #9  
Old 12-13-2007, 04:37 PM
Zebra Zebra is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: LIC
Posts: 20,673
Isn't The First Noel in 3/4 time and the Cannon in D in 4/4 time?
  #10  
Old 12-13-2007, 04:45 PM
Eureka Eureka is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Posts: 5,331
Zebra,

I have no clue. And it's been a few years since I played the music I described--and even then, I only saw the Bell Music, not the piano or vocal music. But I'm not sure it would be a major problem--except for the pianist. Er, . . . let's stick to the part I'm sure of--I don't remember. I just remember us struggling to get the rhythm quite right--the music was transparent so it was a major problem. (Um, when I say the music was transparent, I don't mean the sheet music, I mean that most of the time only two or three notes played at once, as opposed to music which has 6 or 7 notes playing at once, so if someone forgets to play, it's kinda hard to tell).
  #11  
Old 12-13-2007, 04:48 PM
Contrapuntal Contrapuntal is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Under the lion's paw
Posts: 13,267
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cunctator
I've sung a version of The First Nowell set to Pachelbel's Canon.
Who was the first Nowell? Arnie?
  #12  
Old 12-13-2007, 04:58 PM
Bryan Ekers Bryan Ekers is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Montreal, QC
Posts: 56,020
Of course, no discussion would be complete without a link to... The Pachelbel Rant!
  #13  
Old 12-13-2007, 07:26 PM
pulykamell pulykamell is online now
Charter Member
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: SW Side, Chicago
Posts: 41,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebra
Isn't The First Noel in 3/4 time and the Cannon in D in 4/4 time?
They are, but it's possible to stretch 3/4 songs into 4/4. I also seem to recall reading somewhere that Pachelbel's Canon was originally meant to be performed in a more spritely, uptempo manner, rather than the plaintive, meditative one that has caught on. Somebody with a better knowledge of music history can either confirm or deny.

Last edited by pulykamell; 12-13-2007 at 07:29 PM.
  #14  
Old 12-13-2007, 07:29 PM
eleanorigby eleanorigby is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Present and Accounted For
Posts: 18,256
Rant or no, it makes a very welcome change to Rudolph and Grandma etc.....
  #15  
Old 12-13-2007, 07:37 PM
interface2x interface2x is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Chicago Suburbs
Posts: 6,793
I was wondering the same thing when I heard it at an animal hospital yesterday. The whole time I was thinking "since when is this a Christmas song?"
  #16  
Old 12-13-2007, 07:51 PM
mobo85 mobo85 is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Bloomingdale, NJ
Posts: 9,387
Trans-Siberian Orchestra performs a song called Christmas Canon which is children singing about Christmas to the tune of Pachelbel's Canon. At first I thought this was an annoying song because I thought the children were just repeating "Christmas" over and over, but the actual lyrics show it's about the birth of Christ.

Last edited by mobo85; 12-13-2007 at 07:51 PM.
  #17  
Old 12-13-2007, 07:53 PM
Tikki Tikki is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Puget Sound basin
Posts: 2,640
I like Pachebel's Canon when it's done well, which my humble opinion, the Christmas version we commonly hear is not.

In the same vein, which brainiac decided My Favorite Things should be a Christmas song?

Edited to add: Aw, Trans Siberian Orchestra did that? Now I feel sad for calling it not well done. It's just not in my taste, I guess.

Last edited by Tikki; 12-13-2007 at 07:56 PM.
  #18  
Old 12-13-2007, 08:11 PM
ryobserver ryobserver is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 1,040
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahna Mahna
(in my defence, I'm pretty sure both Handel AND Pachebel are rolling over in their graves over the whole supermarket Muzak thing)
I'm sure Handel is. "Messiah" definitely wasn't written for Christmas; Handel conducted the premiere in April of 1742. It's much more fitted to Easter than Christmas, yet no one ever seems to have a sing-along Messiah concert at Eastertime.
  #19  
Old 12-13-2007, 08:18 PM
Cunctator Cunctator is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 11,386
Quote:
Originally Posted by Contrapuntal
Who was the first Nowell? Arnie?
I don't get this at all.
  #20  
Old 12-13-2007, 09:16 PM
eleanorigby eleanorigby is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Present and Accounted For
Posts: 18,256
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tikki
I like Pachebel's Canon when it's done well, which my humble opinion, the Christmas version we commonly hear is not.

In the same vein, which brainiac decided My Favorite Things should be a Christmas song?

the only thing I can think of is that the song mentions "snowflakes that fall on my nose and my lashes." Nose=reference to Rudolph; Snow=Christmas season for Western Civilization (for the most part). And perhaps girls in blue satin sashes go to the Nutcracker? Satin is usually a cold weather fabric.....

I'm not saying this makes sense. I'm only trying to make some type of connection.
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:14 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Send questions for Cecil Adams to: cecil@chicagoreader.com

Send comments about this website to: webmaster@straightdope.com

Terms of Use / Privacy Policy

Advertise on the Straight Dope!
(Your direct line to thousands of the smartest, hippest people on the planet, plus a few total dipsticks.)

Publishers - interested in subscribing to the Straight Dope?
Write to: sdsubscriptions@chicagoreader.com.

Copyright 2017 Sun-Times Media, LLC.

 
Copyright © 2017