That was one shitty fucking day (driving SD to SF, Dec. 17)

We are spending the holidays in San Francisco with my wife’s family. We decided to drive from San Diego because it was going to be considerably cheaper, and also because it would give us the convenience of having a car while we’re up here, for things like day trips outside the city, grocery shopping, etc.

Google maps showed the door-to-door distance as almost exactly 500 miles, which is a reasonably long drive, but one that can comfortably be done in a day. Well, usually.

We didn’t bother getting up outrageously early. In fact, we figured that leaving a bit later would allow us to miss the morning rush hour in San Diego and Los Angeles, and the evening rush hour in the Bay area. We got on the road at about 11.20am, and planned to arrive in San Francisco any time between about 8 and 10 in the evening, allowing for rest stops, dinner, and traffic snarls.

Of course, in making these plans we didn’t predict that Southern California would be hit by a massive storm that would dump snow all over the area north of LA. It was raining when we left in the morning, and we knew that would probably slow things down a bit, but had no idea about the snow.

The first couple of hours were a bit slower than anticipated, thanks to two truck accidents north of San Diego, one at Oceanside, and another a few miles further on in the Camp Pendleton area. In both cases, the big rigs had done a full 180 and were facing the wrong way on the freeway. In the second one, the truck was hauling two trailers, and the back one had gone through the right guardrail and was half over the embankment. As i said to my wife, either the truck drivers fucked up, or some asshole in a car probably dived in front of them without leaving them enough room to stop, causing them to lock up their brakes. I’m constantly amazed at how cavalier and inconsiderate some car drivers are around big trucks.

Anyway, despite the delays from those accidents, we covered exactly 100 miles in the first two hours, which wasn’t too bad. The trip through LA wasn’t too bad, and at the end of three hours we had gone 154 miles, and were heading away from the city. As we started to climb, we got a few flakes of snow on the windshield, and saw roadside signs saying that Route 14 was closed. We turned the radio on to hear the traffic report, and listened for any problems on I-5. I wasn’t too worried, because i couldn’t imagine that an interstate as big as 5 would be closed by a bit of snow.

This was where our lack of local knowledge bit us on the ass. The news announced closings on 14, 15, a bunch of other local roads, and The Grapevine.

Memo to LA radio stations: not every fucking driver is a local, and not every one of us will know that The Grapevine IS Interstate 5, in a section north of LA. It would be fucking nice if you’d actually use the term I-5 once in a while, so us out-of-towners know what the fuck you’re talking about.

Anyway, by the time we worked this out, we were stuck is a motherfucker of a snarl on 5. In the next hour and 49 minutes, we traveled just under 5 miles before we were able to turn around at the Castaic turnoff.

What really amazed me in this jam was that a few people actually thought it was acceptable to try and skip down the right-hand shoulder to jump the queue. And it’s not like these people had emergencies or anything like that. One car we saw would drive a few hundred yards down the shoulder, dive back into the regular line for a few minutes, and then continue on down the shoulder a bit further. Un-fucking-believable. Once people realized this was happening, some drivers began straddling the right-hand lane and the shoulder to prevent anyone from getting by.

After about an hour in this, i had to piss really badly. I had been driving since we left home, so i’d been at the wheel for about 4 hours. Finally, we saw a large tree down the hill by the road, so my wife jumped in the driver’s seat while i went to answer the call of nature. Quite a few others were in the same predicament.

Anyway, at about 4.20 we were finally back on I-5 heading south, and debating what to do. We thought about calling friends in Pasadena and staying with them for the night, but weren’t very optimistic about whether 5 would be any good the next day either. In the end, we decided to take 126 west past Ventura to the 101, figuring that, at the very least, we could get in some more miles and maybe get a motel room. Just around 5.45, we began to hit rush-hour traffic just south of Santa Barbara, so we pulled in to have some dinner.

By this time, i was tired and very fucking annoyed, but the last thing i wanted to do was spend the night in some dull motel and then have to drive another 300 miles the next day. We decided to solider on, leaving Santa Barbara at about 7. There was still some rush-hour traffic, so it took us another half-hour or so to leave the city behind, but from then on things were pretty good.

101 is only two lanes each way for most of its length, and i was worried that it would be very busy with a whole bunch of other people like us. There were certainly plenty of trucks on the road, suggesting that a lot of truckers had decided to take 101 rather than wait for 5 to clear. But traffic flowed pretty well, and for most of the way we were able to sit comfortably on 60-75 miles an hour. We stopped once for gas, in San Luis Obispo, but other than that we drove straight through, arriving in San Francisco right on 1am.

A couple of friend of ours left on a two-week vacation to Australia yesterday, and i commented to my wife that their journey from San Francisco to Sydney would take them about the same length of time as our trip from San Diego to San Francisco.

Anyway, it’s done now, and i’m very glad we decided to drive though rather than stop and get a room. And i’m also thankful that there was an alternative route for us to take. There were plenty of people who simply couldn’t get home from LA last night. Our little second-hand Civic did great on it’s first long trip, giving no problems whatsoever, and comfortably averaging over 36 mpg, even with over two hours spent idling in traffic jams.

I’ve been to San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco and San Jose. You mean this isn’t normal? :wink:

I’m guessing I would have shot someone had I been in your position. Glad you made it OK.

And people say flying isn’t worth it…

::waving hi from San Luis Obispo::

Ugh. glad to hear you finally made it. The 101 is actually quite a nice little highway, except up near Gilmore (nickname: Death Alley). After living here for 5 years, I hate driving highways with more than three lanes!

Wow, that sounds like an exhausting journey. I really like the 101 too and always try to take it, even if it takes longer than the 5.

Roadtrip rookie! :stuck_out_tongue:

Google maps also says that SD - SF via the I5 and 101 takes up to 11hrs in traffic, not including stops. Not even on your drivingest of driving days would you make that in 9hrs. I find google maps is an excellent tool for planning road trips, but you can’t make the mistake of judging trips by mileage alone.

Nah, you can make up significant time on the 5. But I agree that the 101 is more scenic and picturesque. For some reason, driving up the 5 corridor always makes me think of being in prison. Maybe because that’s where all the prisons are…

Glad you made it in one piece. Good luck making it home!

Wait, you live in San Diego and don’t know what the Grapevine is? :stuck_out_tongue:

People always brag about how fast they can make it up and down the California coast and it almost always takes longer than people brag. I used to think I could make Monterey to San Diego in eight hours, but it often ended up 12.

But snow… all bets are off.

Actually, our original plan was not to use the 101 at all, but to take the 5 all the way north. In normal conditions, avoiding rush hour in LA and the Bay area, i think 9 hours wouldn’t have been a stretch at all.

Also, if we had known about the snow on I-5, and has gone straight to the 101, i think we would have made it in about 9-10 hours. We sat almost completely stalled on the 5 for 2 hours, and then took another half hour to get across to the 101. And then, because we were really tired and annoyed, we took almost an hour and a half for dinner, whereas normally we probably would have grabbed something quickly and kept going.

Well, we’ve only lived in SoCal for a few months, and this was our first trip north by car.

Also, living in San Diego, it often seems like LA is another world. We don’t hear much about it on the local news, and for obvious reasons the local traffic reports don’t spend much time talking about the LA freeways, especially those north of the city.

The real bastard about being on the 101 was that, because we didn’t even get on it until after sunset, we missed the scenery.

Even in good weather, the drive up to and through LA is a crapshoot. I lived in San Diego, and trips to my brother’s house in Culver City took anywhere from 1hr 45min to 4 hours. One accident in the right place and you’re screwed.

One of my cow-orkers is driving from San Jose to Las Vegas on Christmas Day. I warned him about fog in the central valley and winter storms in the high desert. He didn’t take me seriously…until today, after I told him to google “Las Vegas + Snow”.

Seems like ever since '49 the traffic’s been really bad.

That explains things. I think anyone who drives in Southern California knows what The Grapevine is. There used to be a page that explained terms you hear on SoCal radio such as The Grapevine, Sigalert, Four-Level, etc.; but I can’t find it.

I blame Judge Doom.

I’ve never paid superclose attention but I always thought NPR’s traffic reports referred to I-5 properly. Sorry about your sucky drive, though. My car was totalled on the I-5 once in front of SFO airport by the two a-holes behind me who weren’t paying attention to traffic patterns (I was not at fault!) and I’ve completely washed my hands of driving my car up and down that route. I just pay out the nose and fly out of Burbank.

I once made the drive from Salinas to Oceanside in 6 hours. :eek:

I think I may have broken a law or two doing that…

Do you mean Gilroy? I don’t think there is a Gilmore in CA.

There used to be a stretch between San Jose and Gilroy where you had to take the Monterey Highway, which was basically a surface street. Blood Alley is the nickname I remember. But the 101 freeway from SJ to Gilroy was completed years ago now.