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Old 01-09-2009, 04:34 PM
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Stop shitting your fucking pants!!!

I just changed you a few minutes ago! Stop dropping a load IMMEDIATELY after I change you. Dammit, have you no decency? Can't wait like an hour or something?
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Old 01-09-2009, 04:36 PM
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Old 01-09-2009, 04:37 PM
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I thought self-pittings were against the rules.
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Old 01-09-2009, 04:38 PM
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Old 01-09-2009, 04:38 PM
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If you'd stop feeding the little fucker, he'd stop shitting.
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Old 01-09-2009, 04:40 PM
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The lesson here is that most people poop in two parts. Stop changing the kid the minute he poops and let him finish! 10 minutes of sitting in poop won't kill him.
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Old 01-09-2009, 04:42 PM
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No it's more that she holds the poo in when the diaper is full of pee, and then when she has the fresh clean diaper and is all relaxed it comes a-flowin.
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Old 01-09-2009, 04:46 PM
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Babies have it so rough. Here they go to all that trouble (and it is hard work, anyone who's ever observed a red-faced grunting infant dropping a load can testify to that) to provide themselves with a warm and soft seat cushion, and some sadistic adult comes by 5 minutes later and takes it away, replacing it with a cold, stiff, scratchy diaper.

No wonder they cry all the time.
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Old 01-09-2009, 04:50 PM
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No it's more that she holds the poo in when the diaper is full of pee, and then when she has the fresh clean diaper and is all relaxed it comes a-flowin.
If your daughter's pattern is that reliable it's probably time to start potty training. "Oh, just wet, no poop? Let's try to go potty!" If she's capable of holding it due to some preference then she's probably capable of letting it out at a specific time too.

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Old 01-09-2009, 04:53 PM
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If your daughter's pattern is that reliable it's probably time to start potty training. "Oh, just wet, no poop? Let's try to go potty!" If she's capable of holding it due to some preference then she's probably capable of letting it out at a specific time too.

Enjoy,
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Yeah maybe, she has a potty that she comprehends. I've been kind of waiting for her to indicate interest.
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Old 01-09-2009, 05:07 PM
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Yeah maybe, she has a potty that she comprehends. I've been kind of waiting for her to indicate interest.
This may be your indication. If she can hold it long enough to wait until a diaper change, like Mtgman says it sounds like she has some conscious control.
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Old 01-09-2009, 05:09 PM
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Old 01-09-2009, 05:16 PM
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How old is she, mwas?
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Old 01-09-2009, 05:20 PM
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:43 PM
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Completely serious question. People still crap their pants at 21 months? How long does this go on? Is there anything else I should know? My ancestors better be fucking happy with however many kids I may one day have.
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:47 PM
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Completely serious question. People still crap their pants at 21 months? How long does this go on? Is there anything else I should know? My ancestors better be fucking happy with however many kids I may one day have.
I thought most kids under 2 still weren't potty trained. I mean, 21 is barely a toddler. 2-4 is normal, no?
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:52 PM
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Our house is for sale. In the process of getting all critters out of the house for showings, THREE times in the last week, my daughter, who is unclear on the concept, has either had a pantie blowing poop or has just flat out pooped on the floor.

Try explaining THAT.

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Old 01-09-2009, 06:58 PM
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I feel your pain, mswas. My daughter is also 21 months. "Nothing like a nice clean diaper for pooping in, huh, sweetie?"

Like her mom says, it's a good thing she's cute. And we're also at the point of thinking it's time for potty training.
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:58 PM
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I thought most kids under 2 still weren't potty trained. I mean, 21 is barely a toddler. 2-4 is normal, no?
2 to 4? Those are some huge error bars. So, at 2 per day, possibly 2920 diapers? You are kidding, right?
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:05 PM
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2 to 4? Those are some huge error bars. So, at 2 per day, possibly 2920 diapers? You are kidding, right?
Well, wiki says between 12 months and three years. Doesn't sound so absurd to me.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:09 PM
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2 to 4? Those are some huge error bars. So, at 2 per day, possibly 2920 diapers? You are kidding, right?
More like 6-8 per day for the first 9 months or so, then down to about 3-4 per day after that.

They go through lotsa diapers, for sure! Don't even think about calculating the wipes!
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:22 PM
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My kids started potty-training at around 2 yrs, 3 mos, IIRC.
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:04 PM
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Yeah maybe, she has a potty that she comprehends. I've been kind of waiting for her to indicate interest.
For some reason, the idea of waiting for an infant to "indicate interest" in potty training has me giggling inanely.

"Father, I've been considering making a life change."
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"Yes. I've decided to stop shitting myself. Do you think it's a good idea?"

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Old 01-09-2009, 08:29 PM
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For some reason, the idea of waiting for an infant to "indicate interest" in potty training has me giggling inanely.

"Father, I've been considering making a life change."
"Really, dear?"
"Yes. I've decided to stop shitting myself. Do you think it's a good idea?"
Well, they do say change comes from within.
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:43 PM
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More like 6-8 per day for the first 9 months or so, then down to about 3-4 per day after that.

They go through lotsa diapers, for sure! Don't even think about calculating the wipes!
Wow. That's shocking, or stunning, or apalling, or something.
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:04 PM
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For some reason, the idea of waiting for an infant to "indicate interest" in potty training has me giggling inanely.

"Father, I've been considering making a life change."
"Really, dear?"
"Yes. I've decided to stop shitting myself. Do you think it's a good idea?"
She tried to pee in it one months ago but didn't have the bladder control. She ended up bawling. So clearly she knows what its for.

I imagined that in a Mid-Atlantic accent.

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Old 01-09-2009, 09:35 PM
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Try explaining THAT.
Always erect a level 9 containment field when running a level 3 diagnostic...?
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:37 PM
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Babies have it so rough. Here they go to all that trouble (and it is hard work, anyone who's ever observed a red-faced grunting infant dropping a load can testify to that) to provide themselves with a warm and soft seat cushion, and some sadistic adult comes by 5 minutes later and takes it away, replacing it with a cold, stiff, scratchy diaper.

No wonder they cry all the time.
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Old 01-09-2009, 10:16 PM
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I thought most kids under 2 still weren't potty trained. I mean, 21 is barely a toddler. 2-4 is normal, no?
Entirely irrelevant to what you are saying, but I totally just read your name as Freudian Shit.

Make of that what you will; I'll just be over here giggling.

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Old 01-10-2009, 04:03 AM
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But can I still shit my regular pants?
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Old 01-10-2009, 07:35 AM
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Sorry to hear that you are having trouble with your teenager -- don't worry, it's just another stage that she will grow out of.
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Old 01-10-2009, 08:18 AM
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Babies have it so rough. Here they go to all that trouble (and it is hard work, anyone who's ever observed a red-faced grunting infant dropping a load can testify to that) to provide themselves with a warm and soft seat cushion, and some sadistic adult comes by 5 minutes later and takes it away, replacing it with a cold, stiff, scratchy diaper.

No wonder they cry all the time.
As the father of twin nine-month old boys, I just have to say thanks for making me laugh so hard I literally cried. That is so perfect.
To those who are amazed at the number of diapers they go through, just remember some of us get to double everything. I'm seriously considering purchasing stock in whatever company makes Luvs. We buy 'em by the case.
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Old 01-10-2009, 08:32 AM
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Wow. That's shocking, or stunning, or apalling, or something.
It's what is called "normal". And a basic fact of life.
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Old 01-10-2009, 08:38 AM
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It's what is called "normal". And a basic fact of life.
I think it's more the sheer amount of diapers than any disconnection from life. That is a hell of a good argument for a return to washable diapers.
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Old 01-10-2009, 09:36 AM
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I think it's more the sheer amount of diapers than any disconnection from life. That is a hell of a good argument for a return to washable diapers.
Not to start a debate, but depending on where you live, the availability of washers and dryers and water and bleach and detergent, cloth diapers can be just as impactful on the environment and even more expensive than disposable.

I live in an apartment building which thankfully has coin op laundry in the basement. Assuming I could get my neighbors to agree to let me wash shit stained diapers in the communal washers on a regular basis, and assuming I do only one wash cycle (lots of people recommend an extra wash, or at least an extra rinse, to get all the bleach out) it'd cost me $2.50 a load, several times a week. I can buy diapers for a month for $20 at Costco. Comes out about the same, really.

Now, lots of people around here don't even have laundry in the building. If I figured in the time and gas it cost me to haul diapers to the laundromat thrice a week and sit there while they wash... Fuggedaboutit. Disposables all the way!

When I lived with my mom, had free laundry and a mom who liked doing laundry and folding cute little baby diapers, I used cloth for my son. 13 years later in ApartmentLand, My daughter got disposables. Neither one expressed a preference! (Although she had a lot fewer diaper rashes than he did.)

Of course the local water treatment plant saw a lot more blackwater coming from our use of cloth diapers, so when counting up the environmental impact, that counts, too. Then again, water was dirtied in the production of the disposables. Electric used for both, water used to grow the cotton for cloth and the trees for disposables... It's a tangled web, but according to most studies, they come out about even.

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Old 01-10-2009, 10:54 AM
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We did the cloth diaper ecological thing for a long time. You start out with only the cloth diapers, but it only takes one long trip with a dirty diaper that you must cart around before the disposables re-enter the equation. Then one night, you realize how much better they are for absorbing pee, so the kid can sleep. Then you run out of clean dry cloth diapers when the kid has the poops.

By kid two, the cloth diapers are the backups. They're great for polishing shoes though.
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Old 01-10-2009, 10:56 AM
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As the father of twin nine-month old boys, I just have to say thanks for making me laugh so hard I literally cried. That is so perfect.
To those who are amazed at the number of diapers they go through, just remember some of us get to double everything. I'm seriously considering purchasing stock in whatever company makes Luvs. We buy 'em by the case.
I've heard a lot of companies have discounts for twins. I haven't looked into it, but maybe something you might want to check into.
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Old 01-10-2009, 10:58 AM
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I think it's more the sheer amount of diapers than any disconnection from life. That is a hell of a good argument for a return to washable diapers.
They have like 0 absorbency. The pee goes right through it and leaks out of the legs of the plastic underwear, through her onesie and into your shirt.
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:00 AM
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My three-year old son is struggling a bit with going potty, so he's mostly still in pullups.

His favorite trick (which he does on purpose) is to shit himself a good one and then come up to me and say "Daddy, I need to go potty!"
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:01 AM
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Well can you blame her? Wouldn't you rather poop in a clean place?
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:05 AM
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My three-year old son is struggling a bit with going potty, so he's mostly still in pullups.

His favorite trick (which he does on purpose) is to shit himself a good one and then come up to me and say "Daddy, I need to go potty!"
Oh, isn't that fun?

It got worse for us, our "struggles" started turning into actual struggles, and finally one day when I was just furious, I loudly asked her WHY she pooped in her underpants. "Because I'm ANGRY WITH YOU!" she shouted back.



Oops.

We switched strategies the very next morning, and things are going much better now.

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Old 01-10-2009, 11:19 AM
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it'd cost me $2.50 a load, several times a week
What kid of mammoth baby shot out your cooter what filled up a washing machine with glorified napkins several times a week?!
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If this is such a big deal, why don't you wear diapers? You poop just the same, your poop goes to the exact same water treatment plant.
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You're going to need to provide a cite for that. I just have a hard time believing that the resources it takes to create and re-use--several hundred times--a single cloth diaper has the same environmental impact as a synthetic diaper. I'm not going to argue personal cost. I'm sure you thought that one out pretty well.

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Old 01-10-2009, 11:35 AM
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What kid of mammoth baby shot out your cooter what filled up a washing machine with glorified napkins several times a week?!
Doubled diapers for absorbency, diaper covers...8 changes per day at minimum (at least, that's the minimum your newborn should be wetting to indicate good hydration) and a couple at night...that's 20 or more diapers per day. If you want good water flow to actually clean them, you can't put more than 40 in a regular sized washing machine.
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Yes, but my poop is escorted out of the house with 2.2 gallons of water, not the 40 gallons used by most conventional washers for one load.

And it's NOT such a big deal. That's exactly the point - on environmental concerns, it's just about a wash (pardon the pun). So choose on other grounds - convenience, what the baby seems to like, which gives your particular kid less diaper rash, or whether you like to do laundry or not, if you like the adorable diaper covers for cloth...whatever you like. You just don't get tree-hugging points either way.

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You're going to need to provide a cite for that. I just have a hard time believing that the resources it takes to create and re-use--several hundred times--a single cloth diaper has the same environmental impact as a synthetic diaper.
Cite 1. Cite 2. Cite 3.
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:29 PM
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Oh, isn't that fun?

It got worse for us, our "struggles" started turning into actual struggles, and finally one day when I was just furious, I loudly asked her WHY she pooped in her underpants. "Because I'm ANGRY WITH YOU!" she shouted back.



Oops.

We switched strategies the very next morning, and things are going much better now.
That's our Girl! I can hardly wait till she becomes a Doper!

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Old 01-10-2009, 12:55 PM
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What kid of mammoth baby shot out your cooter what filled up a washing machine with glorified napkins several times a week?!
Consider this in the spirit of fighting ignorance...

When my kids were newborns, I ended up with a full load of laundry almost every day, and I was using disposable diapers. Using cloth would double that, at least. And it is difficult to leave soiled cloth diapers around waiting for a full load- by difficult, I mean fucking disgusting, even if you swirl them in the toilet first, like my mom had to teach me.

Have some kids before you make snide cooter cracks, m'kay?
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Old 01-10-2009, 01:19 PM
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Completely serious question. People still crap their pants at 21 months? How long does this go on? Is there anything else I should know? My ancestors better be fucking happy with however many kids I may one day have.
People still shit their pants well into adulthood, my friend. You just think it's only you until you're in a comfortable long-time relationship. Not often, uaually, but it happens.
Stewie shits whenever and wherever the mood strikes him, especially for revenge. Don't let that "just a baby" stuff fool ya!
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Old 01-10-2009, 01:29 PM
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Thanks, WhyNot. This environmental crap is complicated.
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Have some kids before you make snide cooter cracks, m'kay?
Hey, I wasn't trying to be mean here. I was just trying to how dumbfounded I was while being a bit goofy because, let's face it, we're talking about poop and "cooter" is a funny word. No offense meant.
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Okay- I misunderstood. Except that now i see that guy in the ball cap from The Dukes of Hazzard birthin' babies...

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Old 01-10-2009, 04:15 PM
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Entirely irrelevant to what you are saying, but I totally just read your name as Freudian Shit.

Make of that what you will; I'll just be over here giggling.
::tries to look dignified...fails::

Er. I'll just be over here in the corner, putting ointment on my sprained dignity.






Okay, I laughed too.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:59 AM
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And it's NOT such a big deal. That's exactly the point - on environmental concerns, it's just about a wash (pardon the pun). So choose on other grounds - convenience, what the baby seems to like, which gives your particular kid less diaper rash, or whether you like to do laundry or not, if you like the adorable diaper covers for cloth...whatever you like. You just don't get tree-hugging points either way.


Cite 1. Cite 2. Cite 3.
Apparently disposables still take forever to break down in land fills tho? If so, seems that cloth is the way to go if one is worried about environmental concerns.

And, people are much more willing to take a dirty cloth diaper with them instead of leaving it where ever they took it off the baby...

However, I have a feeling that disposables have become so popular that the accessories that made cloth managable in the past may no longer exist. Except now there are diaper services - how do they compare in price to buying disposables?
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