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Old 05-04-2009, 04:18 PM
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Most painful way to die via a "liquid" injection?

I was just thinking to myself the other day.. What could you inject into somebody that will cause the most agonizing, horrible, gruesome way to die, under a week? It has to be a liquid that you can injet into someone via an IV type needle. Some kind of acid? Something that will slowly freeze your blood, cause it to expand until you blow up?

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Old 05-04-2009, 04:28 PM
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Old 05-04-2009, 04:28 PM
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Injecting an acetaminophen (paracetamol) solution of sufficient concentration will result in a slow, painful, agonizing death from liver failure.
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Old 05-04-2009, 07:34 PM
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A combination of blowfish toxin with jellyfish and spider venom?

Paralyze them so they can only lay there and "enjoy" it.
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Old 05-04-2009, 07:35 PM
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Old 05-04-2009, 09:30 PM
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Poisonous lava
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Old 05-04-2009, 09:35 PM
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Old 05-04-2009, 09:47 PM
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This thread reminds me of this movie.
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Old 05-04-2009, 09:57 PM
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Hydrofluoric Acid
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Old 05-04-2009, 09:58 PM
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Injecting an acetaminophen (paracetamol) solution of sufficient concentration will result in a slow, painful, agonizing death from liver failure.
It'd probably take longer than a week.
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:14 PM
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:18 PM
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Years ago a local motorcycle organization near here shot some guy up with a bunch of battery acid.

This was after they shot and stabbed him several times but before they dumped him into a quarry.

The dude lived!

I don't know if this is an indication of a tougher constitution than most people have or that battery acid isn't the best thing to use for your situation.
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:34 PM
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potassium chloride
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Old 05-04-2009, 11:32 PM
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I'd go with a big, cloudy vial of methicillin-resistant Staph. aureus or meningococcus.

Yes, as a matter of fact I am terrified of sepsis, necrosis, gangrene, etc.
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Old 05-04-2009, 11:41 PM
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Liquid Mercury?
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Old 05-04-2009, 11:48 PM
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You needn't bother injecting this, though - hydrofluoric acid is readily absorbed through the skin. Just douse a sufficient portion of the victim's exposed skin in the stuff. A slow, agonizing death will ensue.
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Old 05-04-2009, 11:56 PM
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Oh, I forgot, since we're looking for painful, I was thinking this would be even more painful if it was inject IM. It might not 'absorb' but I think it would hurt like hell tearing the muscle apart as it goes in.
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:07 AM
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Anyone read The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson? (great book, btw). There's a method of execution described called the "seven minute special", or something like that. Basically you're injected with a bunch of tiny little nano-bombs, give them a few minutes to course through your veins and get all spread out, and then when they flip the switch, you basically explode all over the place.
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:22 AM
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My vote is for some methicillin and vancomycin resistant staph aureus in solution. That'll fuck you up until they find out what it is, and by that time it's probably too late.
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:35 AM
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Anyone read The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson? (great book, btw). There's a method of execution described called the "seven minute special", or something like that. Basically you're injected with a bunch of tiny little nano-bombs, give them a few minutes to course through your veins and get all spread out, and then when they flip the switch, you basically explode all over the place.
They explode in a spherical pattern. When it's done, you look like you've been cut down by a melon baller, or like the net of dough that's left over after you've cut out all the cookies.

But significantly less appetizing.
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:38 AM
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Injecting an acetaminophen (paracetamol) solution of sufficient concentration will result in a slow, painful, agonizing death from liver failure.
That seems similar to how Bruce Ivins, the alleged anthrax attacker, supposedly committed suicide.

You would think a scientist would devise a less painful way to die.
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:58 AM
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Years ago a local motorcycle organization near here shot some guy up with a bunch of battery acid.

This was after they shot and stabbed him several times but before they dumped him into a quarry.

The dude lived!

I don't know if this is an indication of a tougher constitution than most people have or that battery acid isn't the best thing to use for your situation.
Battery acid seems to be popular without good reason. Bunch of blokes near me tried to do the battery acid injection thing, then set fire to the victim. Who still survived.

http://archive.sclqld.org.au/qjudgme.../QCA01-359.pdf
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:19 AM
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Polonium 210 - took 3 weeks but radiation sickness is an unpleasant way to die.

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Old 05-05-2009, 01:37 AM
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D'ye think the MRSA is more painful than a syringe of ebola zaire?
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:14 AM
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Anybody who's ever gotten lemon juice on an open cut might think that an injection of it would be agonizing. It's not, though, at least not if it goes into a vein. I'm guessing that the stream of blood immediately dilutes it. In any case, it doesn't hurt. Maybe battery acid is a similar deal.

I suspect an IM injection of either would be a whole different story, though.

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Old 05-05-2009, 03:36 AM
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It'd probably take longer than a week.
Depends on the dosage. The final stage of paracetamol toxicity kicks in at 3 to 5 days following administration; how long this stage lasts (and whether it ends in recovery or death) depends on how much of the drug was administered. I'm sure that with a properly calibrated dose you could fix the time to death at one week, plus or minus some measurable margin of error.
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Old 05-05-2009, 05:55 AM
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Injecting an acetaminophen (paracetamol) solution of sufficient concentration will result in a slow, painful, agonizing death from liver failure
It'd probably take longer than a week.
Nope, 3-5 days is typical. Of course, a really massive dose will do the job faster.

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Old 05-05-2009, 06:26 AM
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Battery acid is a rather weak solution. Actually household toilet cleaners have a bigger acid concentration than battery acid.
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:46 AM
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Not speedy but perhaps in the right "vein" (heh-heh)

I read a short story where a terrorist was about to be released for political reasons, so in the guise of injecting 'truth serum' they also injected him with rabies. They let him go a little later without, of course, telling him. That must have been unpleasant.
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Old 05-05-2009, 07:07 AM
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potassium chloride
Potassium chloride is the primary drug used to cause death in the lethal injection: they inject sodium thiopental to anesthetize the prisoner, pancuronium bromide to paralyze them (that's the one human rights groups object to) and potassium chloride to kill them by stopping the heart from beating. I know it's sometimes claimed that lethal injections sometimes take longer than the authorities say they do, but they're talking on the order of minutes, not days!

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Doesn't that cause death fairly quickly by embolism?
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:07 AM
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Potassium chloride is the primary drug used to cause death in the lethal injection: they inject sodium thiopental to anesthetize the prisoner, pancuronium bromide to paralyze them (that's the one human rights groups object to) and potassium chloride to kill them by stopping the heart from beating. I know it's sometimes claimed that lethal injections sometimes take longer than the authorities say they do, but they're talking on the order of minutes, not days!
Yes, but it's quite painfull. I didn't realize the OP wanted it to make sure it lasted a long time.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:04 PM
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For anybody referencing cookie cutters from The Diamond Age:

The OP specified painful. Cookie cutters would pulp you so fast, I wouldn't imagine there would be time for pain. Physical pain, anyway--you'd probably be in a decent amount of mental anguish if you were aware of what was in store.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:11 PM
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Anybody who's ever gotten lemon juice on an open cut might think that an injection of it would be agonizing. It's not, though, at least not if it goes into a vein. I'm guessing that the stream of blood immediately dilutes it. In any case, it doesn't hurt. Maybe battery acid is a similar deal.

I suspect an IM injection of either would be a whole different story, though.
How the heck do you know this? You actually injected yourself with lemon juice?
Why?
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:17 PM
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Lemon juice doesn't hurt when you put it on your bare skin. Would it be a strong enough acid to damage the lining of whatever blood vessel it was injected into?
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:31 PM
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I was just thinking to myself the other day.. What could you inject into somebody that will cause the most agonizing, horrible, gruesome way to die, under a week? It has to be a liquid that you can injet into someone via an IV type needle. Some kind of acid? Something that will slowly freeze your blood, cause it to expand until you blow up?

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Milk

Alot of Distilled water.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:34 PM
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Drano and hot sauce.
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Old 05-05-2009, 04:10 PM
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For anybody referencing cookie cutters from The Diamond Age:

The OP specified painful. Cookie cutters would pulp you so fast, I wouldn't imagine there would be time for pain. Physical pain, anyway--you'd probably be in a decent amount of mental anguish if you were aware of what was in store.

Oh, but imagine a set of cookie cutters programmed to go off one at a time, every ten seconds, for a week or so.


Wait, forget that I even contemplated that. I am not that devious.

Seriously, the worst thing I can think of is still bacteria. I might lean toward meningococcus now, since blinding headaches while your hands and feet rot off is something I can't stand to think of.
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Old 05-05-2009, 04:21 PM
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I'm gonna throw my vote in for the infectious agents, too.

Pain + gross + horrifying = win.
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