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zombie comic strips
There are far too many zombie strips. I don't mean comic strips that just ain't funny, but ones that should have been retired. I don't understand how some of them continue to be in the comics pages when they aren't even relvant or funny anymore. Don't get me wrong, some strips had their heyday, but now they're just taking up space and keeping it from any new fresh comic strip that could be out there. (I don't mean that for my own benefit either as an aspiring cartoonist, some of these strips boggle my mind)
I realize this is only my opinion, but if I had to pick a few to be cut I'd have this list Peanuts: Yes, I know, everyone loves Peanuts. I love Peanuts. Shulz created more than a strip in that, it became a national icon. But he retired the strip just before his death. Why now do we see "Classic Peanuts" still on the comics page? I mean, yeah, its hard to see Snoopy, Charlie Brown and the others go, but if I were an editor I’d wonder if there wasn’t another, newer fresher strip that could replace it. Blondie: Is anyone actually reading it? I’m not trying to be a dickweed, I just really don’t get it. I can’t recall ever laughing at it and for Pete’s sake, Blondie is how old? Wasn’t this strip created in the 30’s? Dagwood eating big sandwiches and running into the mailman were probably great gags, 30 or 40 years ago. Calvin and Hobbes: I know I’ll take some heat for mentioning it, but C+H has been discontinued by its creator years ago. I wish it wasn’t, because it was an awesome strip. I have all of the books. Why are we rerunning all of Clavin’s misadventures now? BC: I thought BC was pretty funny in the 70’s when you could buy the old Fawcett paperbacks of the strips…but Johnny Hart has passed now. I know his family has picked up the torch for the strip, (reusing Hart’s drawings with new dialogue I believe.) Jeez, we can’t let it go, can we? Same for the Wizard of Id which stopped being funny about 20 years ago. Beetle Bailey: I suppose it just irks me because I’m in the army and Beetle Bailey is nothing like in any sense the army, even in a comic strip sense…..no, its’ cuz it just really isn’t that funny. Now 30 or 40 years ago? Well, maybe then. Meh. Wee pals: Jeez! This strip is still in print!? I thought it disappeared in the 80s! Strips I just plain can’t stand: Mallard Fillmore: Tinsley wouldn’t have a job if not for Doonesbury, which while old, is at least still amusing and relevant. MF is so bad that yes, it is in syndication to offer a conservative view compared to Doonesbury’s more liberal view. Affirmative action! Geez, they couldn’t find you know, a funny, well written strip to do that? 9 Chickweed Lane: I started of kinda liking it, but it quickly became tiresome. Snuffy Smith: Should be included in the zombie section here, but I really can’t stand that strip. All I can think of is tongues every time I see it. There are probably more but I have to get back to work. Aw well, these are just my opinions anyway. I don’t mean to offend anyone who might actually like the strips I mentioned. Last edited by Jolly Roger; 06-02-2009 at 11:33 AM. |
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Peanuts and Calvin&Hobbes are timeless.
Issues are raised that are faced by every kid. |
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Indeed. The Noodles Incident.
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Who cares what newspapers do? In five years, there will only be about five newspapers left in the US, and the comicless New York Times, Wall Street Journal and USA Today are three of them. Newspaper strips are zombies because newspaper readers are zombies.
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Frustrated Cartoonist Rant: It doesn't matter that the zombie strips are no longer fresh or funny. They're familiar. And that makes them favorites of the older demographic, the one demographic newspapers are trying to cling on to. New comics with fresh ideas or perspectives have limited opportunities to see print and are usually the first ones to get the chop, usually because the didn't click with their older demographic. Never mind attracting a younger one. And most comic editors rather not deal with angry old people. Not only do they not want to sour their base, but they don't consider the comic section worthy of the effort. Unlike the early days, when comic were viewed as a means of increasing readership, they're now looked upon as being beneath the business of serious journalism. So instead of devoting effort and discernment to the content of the section, most editors stick with what works for their dwindling readership and toss up a poll every now and then to feign interest. No other section's content is decided that way, especially when the results are skewed in favor of those with the time and inclination to participate. |
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I don't know, B.C. has actually been a lot funnier since Hart's family took it over. Towards the end, there, the strip was nothing but an endless succession of religious polemics, with nary a joke in sight, but now, there are jokes again. It's still far from the top tier of strips, but it's not terrible.
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Last edited by jayjay; 06-02-2009 at 01:44 PM. |
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I thought we agreed not to mention the Noodle Incident.
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I'd like to say I'm very disappointed to find that not one - not one - of the comic strips in question prominently feature zombies. Terribly misleading.
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I think you have to go to webcomics for that.
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Calvin grew up and became a mailman? I thought it was all up when Lio found the sled and stuffed tiger in the snow...
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Ah, the real reason Obama hasn't repealed "Don't ask, don't tell."
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And the joke about the mailman was a reference to the typo "Clavin"...as in Cliff Clavern, from Cheers. |
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You know, if Beetle really gets jazzed by Sarge's bodytype, you have to wonder what the sexual tension's like when he visits his sister Lois and her Sarge-body-like husband, Hi...
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The champ: Gasoline Alley. Man, was that ever funny? Even if it used to be, sometime during the Hoover administration, that's no reason to keep it running; it's just a bunch of nothing mixed with "gosh, we sure are old now!" for filler.
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I rarely see it, but I freaking LOVE Mallard Fillmore. It is so woefully unfunny that it is hysterical. It strikes me as coming from a bunch of overweight, over 60 Republicans sitting around trying to be "cool."
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Maybe I'll have to go into stand-up just to make up the deficit. |
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Perhaps there's a fine line between "look how silly those guys are!" and "look how morally superior we are!" and conservatives are more prone to cross it. The former has comic potential, the latter less so.
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Why doesn't Keane go after Pastis? That arc where Rat was kidnapped at a FC convention was great. |
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Nearly all continuity strips are zombies, killed by the necessities of plotting around a newspaper.
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When I read National Review in the late '60s, early '70s it had some (intentionally) funny bits. But Tinsley can't be funny even when liberals do something stupid that could legitimately be made fun of. Pretty sad. |
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Blondie has updated to the more or less present, but I'm for keeping it as long as they keep drawing her as hot as they have been. |
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Jayjay, yep, I frequent the Comics Curmudgeon site at times. Which actually reminds me of some strips I forgot to mention that I really wish would go away. I knowthey won't, but their sole entertainment value is only found at places like the Curmudgeon site: Crock: Ok, even as a kid when I first saw Crock I trhought it was lame. Really lame. Its badly drawn and the jokes are horrible. I would be really shocked to find that anyone actually enjoys it. Cathy: ACK! Or as I've seen it said on the CC site "Cathy must die". As for Family Circus, I'm sure that someone out there is a big fan of it. Deranged soccer mom or something. |
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I still love Peanuts, it's in the top 5 of my favorite comic strips. Though some are better than others. And though I've read it for years, there are some that are new to me, though they're 30 years old. I'd like to read new, funny, cutting edge comic strips, where are they???? Online, I suppose. Gil Thorp and Gasoline Alley can't be budged from the newspaper.... |
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Daily Ink has "vintage" comics. I like Buzz Sawyer, the last year or so I read on Sundays visiting my Grandmother, and Flash Gordon, but I guess the web is much different from taking up space in the newspaper. Our Conservative paper here ran Doonesbury as the only comic in the business section. Go figure.
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For Better or For Worse - Last summer, the cartoonist wrapped up the plotline in a big wedding and "happily ever after" conclusion, after (IIRC) announcing earlier in the year that she'd planned to finally retire and spend time with her husband. All's well that ends well, right? Nope. Nearing the "home stretch", her husband left her, and she unretired - she still brought the old storyline to a close, then started the comic strip all over again, with the same plotlines and some minor dialogue changes and references updated. I'm not even sure that she redid any or much art, since she claimed she was going back to her old style of drawing.
Last edited by Ferret Herder; 06-02-2009 at 09:57 PM. |
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Oh yes, I forgot - the strip was a wish-fulfillment fantasy for her the first time around (making the characters carry out her stated wishes for their RL versions' lives), so this time she's demonizing her ex too. Not that she treated him like a shining model of good husbandness the first time around, mind you.
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On the other hand, I am saddened that the rebirth of Pogo failed. There a re lots of good new strips out there, but they fail (Liberty Meadows, The World of Lilly Wong) or cannot into papers (Simulated Comic Content).
We ought to get rid of the zombies and let new talent have its day.
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Liberty Meadows is hardly what I'd call "new," but you have a point. Inertia combined with the future of newspapers these days will not give real talent a place in print.
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Do any papers carry Liberty Meadows? I know frank Cho was getting annoyed with all of the censoring of his material.
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Blondie will probably always be around....even if I don't like it very much there are people that do. Same with BC.... But come on...Nancy? Snuffy Smith? I find it hard to swallow that a significant number of the readership of any paper would cancel their subs just because they were replaced. But as I said its just my opinion. For instance I don't think Liberty Meadows fails...it fits a certain demographic and sometimes the humor isn't my cup of tea, but its wonderfully drawn and quirky at times. I have a friend that thinks Pooch Cafe is stupid, but it makes me laugh more often than not. |
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I am an Old Person, so for me Liberty Meadows is new and edgy.
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I only get Cathy on Sundays, but I agree. Actually, a zombie Cathy strip might be slightly readable. Of course Romero has already done zombies at the mall.
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There aren't enough good new strips out there, so I am glad that Calvin and Hobbes still runs in reruns - and Bloom County too. But I don't read Peanuts anymore. It was never really funny, but I have such great memories of the holiday specials, so I did read it for a while.
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